Actually, hockeyfights.com is wrong. I looked into it awhile back. It was someone else in that fight, and they mistook it for Lidstrom. I would go figure it out again, but I'm lazy. You'll just have to trust me on this.
Edit: The part that I found unbelievable was that he instigated it. That's why I looked into it.
Edit Part 2: Someone on hockeyfights.com wrote that it was actually Marc Potvin in the comments section.
Actually, hockeyfights.com is wrong. I looked into it awhile back. It was someone else in that fight, and they mistook it for Lidstrom. I would go figure it out again, but I'm lazy. You'll just have to trust me on this.
Edit: The part that I found unbelievable was that he instigated it. That's why I looked into it.
Edit Part 2: Someone on hockeyfights.com wrote that it was actually Marc Potvin in the comments section.
Hockeyfights was wrong there, but I know I saw Lidstrom fight before.
Actually, hockeyfights.com is wrong. I looked into it awhile back. It was someone else in that fight, and they mistook it for Lidstrom. I would go figure it out again, but I'm lazy. You'll just have to trust me on this.
Edit: The part that I found unbelievable was that he instigated it. That's why I looked into it.
Edit Part 2: Someone on hockeyfights.com wrote that it was actually Marc Potvin in the comments section.
Hockeyfights was wrong there, but I know I saw Lidstrom fight before.
He may have never received a major penalty in his career, but he has been in at least one fight.
Meh, I don't really count scrums. That's just self defense. I wouldn't count that for a Gordie Howe hat trick either. It's got to be one on one with punches being thrown.
Sweep. These late games are killing me...
And it's also pretty nice to think that the Red Wings just swept Phoenix while playing without one of their best players.
Once Zetterberg is back, the Wings will be even better for Round 2.
Go WIngs.
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It's been reported that Rafalski will be announcing his retirement soon. He's been playing through pain for a while now. He had major knee and back issues. Brian had a hell of a career with the Devils and Wings, and he was a huge part of Team USA's silver medal in Vancouver. I'll miss him.
It's been reported that Rafalski will be announcing his retirement soon. He's been playing through pain for a while now. He had major knee and back issues. Brian had a hell of a career with the Devils and Wings, and he was a huge part of Team USA's silver medal in Vancouver. I'll miss him.
Not a great year to be looking for defensemen...from what I understand the best 2 available will be Bieksa and Erhoff in Vancouver, however, I have heard rumour that Vancouver will likely be able to resign them...unless 1 or both test the market to see if a team over pays...Salo is also available, but often injured.
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Bieksa's value is going up due to his performance in the play-offs
I like Weizenski from Montreal as a possible FA signing
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2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
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2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Chris Osgood has retired. So the question is, do they retire Ozzie's number???
Only six banners hang (not including Vlad) in The Joe, so standards have been set very high.
He is one of only six goalies in NHL history to have over 400 career wins. I think the biggest drawback against him is that 80 of those wins were earned on another team.
Goalies
Wins--Cups
Martin Brodeur--625----3
Patrick Roy
551----4
Terry Sawchuk--447----4
Jacques Plante--437----6
Grant Fuhr
403----4
Chris Osgood----401----3
Absolutely not. The standard is set far too high. Ozzie is no Sawchuk. If Shanahan and Fedorov can't get their numbers retired, Ozzie should not. I think only Lidstrom will.
Absolutely not. The standard is set far too high. Ozzie is no Sawchuk. If Shanahan and Fedorov can't get their numbers retired, Ozzie should not. I think only Lidstrom will.
Lidstrom is a shoe-in.
Hank and Pavel should make it to if they keep production up over their careers.
If they ever put a statue of Pavel inside the Joe, they need to figure a way out to have the status deke itself out of your photo at the last second if you get your picture taken in front of it.
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Chris Osgood has retired. So the question is, do they retire Ozzie's number???
Only six banners hang (not including Vlad) in The Joe, so standards have been set very high.
He is one of only six goalies in NHL history to have over 400 career wins. I think the biggest drawback against him is that 80 of those wins were earned on another team.
Goalies
Wins--Cups
Martin Brodeur--625----3
Patrick Roy
551----4
Terry Sawchuk--447----4
Jacques Plante--437----6
Grant Fuhr
403----4
Chris Osgood----401----3
Absolutely not. The standard is set far too high. Ozzie is no Sawchuk. If Shanahan and Fedorov can't get their numbers retired, Ozzie should not. I think only Lidstrom will.
i don't know....
GAA is virtually equal and Osgood has a better win %. i don't have Terry's save numbers.
Stats don't always tell the whole story...he has more wins than Dryden, Parent, Cheevers, Hainsworth, Hasek and I'm sure more that I consider better. He's far down my list of goalies...I consider him good but not great!!!
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Absolutely not. The standard is set far too high. Ozzie is no Sawchuk. If Shanahan and Fedorov can't get their numbers retired, Ozzie should not. I think only Lidstrom will.
i don't know....
GAA is virtually equal and Osgood has a better win %. i don't have Terry's save numbers.
Completely different eras. You can't just compare their stats. Sawchuk played in the time of those tiny brown pads, without a mask most of his career. It was a difficult time to be a goalie. And he won 4 Vezinas, 4 Stanley Cups, and had a shutout record that stood until Brodeur finally broke it just a couple years ago.
Kris Draper has hung up his skates, so time for another debate.
I'm not going to bring up his entry into the Hall of Fame, but do you think the Wings will consider hanging his Jersey. If you are only considering stats, then the answer is a clear no, but it wasn't Drapers stats that made his impact on the team. It was his leadership, work ethic, and integrity.
Kris Draper has hung up his skates, so time for another debate.
I'm not going to bring up his entry into the Hall of Fame, but do you think the Wings will consider hanging his Jersey. If you are only considering stats, then the answer is a clear no, but it wasn't Drapers stats that made his impact on the team. It was his leadership, work ethic, and integrity.
I say hang the banner. Thoughts?
Absolutely not. You can't go hanging up banners for everyone the fan base is emotionally attached to. Paint a mural of the Grind Line or something instead.
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Sad to see Draper finally step away from the game. Great player and a great leader for the young guys like Eaves, Abdelkader.
As far as the debate with Ozzy is concerned, as a coach for 18yrs, all I care about is Save %. I've had goalies who would let a beach ball in if they had shots against but there GAA was below 2.5 because the team in front of them was strong. Save % doesn't lie....ever! And frankly, if my goalie has Osgoods save % I'd be looking high and low for a new one
In his "good years" he was about 91 save % and his latter years about 88%. That's far from NHL standards IMO. Since 1993 Dominik Hasek was never below 90%, neither has Brodeur, Patrick Roy was below 90% three times, but only once in his last 17 seasons
Not a banner hanger in my opinion but a goalie who made it work...
Lidstrom will be the only player currrently on the team to have his Jersey hanging from the rafters. Not Pavel or Zetterberg. Both amazing but not even in the same category as Lidstrom or Yzerman.
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yes, what a sad thing to hear :(
Ruslan was a tough SOB, might have actually preferred him in Detroit instead of Erickson, but that is history
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2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Sad to see Draper finally step away from the game. Great player and a great leader for the young guys like Eaves, Abdelkader.
As far as the debate with Ozzy is concerned, as a coach for 18yrs, all I care about is Save %. I've had goalies who would let a beach ball in if they had shots against but there GAA was below 2.5 because the team in front of them was strong. Save % doesn't lie....ever! And frankly, if my goalie has Osgoods save % I'd be looking high and low for a new one
In his "good years" he was about 91 save % and his latter years about 88%. That's far from NHL standards IMO. Since 1993 Dominik Hasek was never below 90%, neither has Brodeur, Patrick Roy was below 90% three times, but only once in his last 17 seasons
Not a banner hanger in my opinion but a goalie who made it work...
Lidstrom will be the only player currrently on the team to have his Jersey hanging from the rafters. Not Pavel or Zetterberg. Both amazing but not even in the same category as Lidstrom or Yzerman.
Good post!!!!
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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/story/2011-04-13/daly-no-truth-to-rumored-coyotes-move-plan
The league says no...so the smart money is probably on them moving...
2-0 Wings with 17:19 left to play in the first...
2. Who the hell do the Coyotes think they are taking runs at Lidstrom? That man is a saint! Not a single fight in his 19 year career.
Not completely true...
http://www.hockeyfights.com/players/4184/fightcard/reg1992
But pretty close.
Actually, hockeyfights.com is wrong. I looked into it awhile back. It was someone else in that fight, and they mistook it for Lidstrom. I would go figure it out again, but I'm lazy. You'll just have to trust me on this.
Edit: The part that I found unbelievable was that he instigated it. That's why I looked into it.
Edit Part 2: Someone on hockeyfights.com wrote that it was actually Marc Potvin in the comments section.
Hockeyfights was wrong there, but I know I saw Lidstrom fight before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNYRhR86dp0
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He may have never received a major penalty in his career, but he has been in at least one fight.
Meh, I don't really count scrums. That's just self defense. I wouldn't count that for a Gordie Howe hat trick either. It's got to be one on one with punches being thrown.
I hope he comes back to play another season.
And it's also pretty nice to think that the Red Wings just swept Phoenix while playing without one of their best players.
Once Zetterberg is back, the Wings will be even better for Round 2.
Go WIngs.
Not a great year to be looking for defensemen...from what I understand the best 2 available will be Bieksa and Erhoff in Vancouver, however, I have heard rumour that Vancouver will likely be able to resign them...unless 1 or both test the market to see if a team over pays...Salo is also available, but often injured.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I like Weizenski from Montreal as a possible FA signing
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Only six banners hang (not including Vlad) in The Joe, so standards have been set very high.
He is one of only six goalies in NHL history to have over 400 career wins. I think the biggest drawback against him is that 80 of those wins were earned on another team.
Goalies
Wins--Cups
Martin Brodeur--625----3
Patrick Roy
551----4
Terry Sawchuk--447----4
Jacques Plante--437----6
Grant Fuhr
403----4
Chris Osgood----401----3
How say you?
Hank and Pavel should make it to if they keep production up over their careers.
If they ever put a statue of Pavel inside the Joe, they need to figure a way out to have the status deke itself out of your photo at the last second if you get your picture taken in front of it.
i say, check your stats
http://www.nhl.com/ice/careerstats.htm? ... onsGoalies
he's number 10 on teh all times win list.
i don't know....
GAA is virtually equal and Osgood has a better win %. i don't have Terry's save numbers.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Completely different eras. You can't just compare their stats. Sawchuk played in the time of those tiny brown pads, without a mask most of his career. It was a difficult time to be a goalie. And he won 4 Vezinas, 4 Stanley Cups, and had a shutout record that stood until Brodeur finally broke it just a couple years ago.
I'm not going to bring up his entry into the Hall of Fame, but do you think the Wings will consider hanging his Jersey. If you are only considering stats, then the answer is a clear no, but it wasn't Drapers stats that made his impact on the team. It was his leadership, work ethic, and integrity.
I say hang the banner. Thoughts?
Absolutely not. You can't go hanging up banners for everyone the fan base is emotionally attached to. Paint a mural of the Grind Line or something instead.
As far as the debate with Ozzy is concerned, as a coach for 18yrs, all I care about is Save %. I've had goalies who would let a beach ball in if they had shots against but there GAA was below 2.5 because the team in front of them was strong. Save % doesn't lie....ever! And frankly, if my goalie has Osgoods save % I'd be looking high and low for a new one
In his "good years" he was about 91 save % and his latter years about 88%. That's far from NHL standards IMO. Since 1993 Dominik Hasek was never below 90%, neither has Brodeur, Patrick Roy was below 90% three times, but only once in his last 17 seasons
Not a banner hanger in my opinion but a goalie who made it work...
Lidstrom will be the only player currrently on the team to have his Jersey hanging from the rafters.
Leaving is for the answering machine.
yes, what a sad thing to hear :(
Ruslan was a tough SOB, might have actually preferred him in Detroit instead of Erickson, but that is history
2003 ~ Toronto
2005 ~ London, Toronto
2006 ~ Toronto
2008 ~ Hartford, Mansfied I,
2009 ~ Toronto, Chicago I, Chicago II
2010 ~ Cleveland, Buffalo
2011 ~ Toronto I, Toronto II, Ottawa, Hamilton
2013 - London, Pittsburgh, Buffalo
Good post!!!!
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