LETS GO RED WINGS!!!!!

lukin2006

lukin2006 wrote:

milarso wrote:

lukin2006 wrote:

I also see the end is near for the wings, similar to Montreal in the late 80's, eventually your drafting isn't as good, the people you trusted are no longer there (Montreal and Detroit common connection is Bowman, now he's in Chicago and been there a few years and look at the wealth of talent they have).

God, it's amazing the Wings, with their terrible Stanley Cup/Gold Medal-winning coach, and not having Scotty Bowman in the organization can still win a game... :roll:

I never said they couldn't win and I never said that they aren't a good organization...

I never said Babcock was a terrible coach, I do believe Wilson was a better coach during the Olympics though, the US team was consistent from the drop of the puck in the first game to the very end and lost in OT to a much more talented Canadian team because we were not consistent. Crosby scored a huge goal...believe me if he did not score that goal Babcock and Yzerman would no longer be involved in the national program.

megatron

go wings!
ah to be a lower seed. usually we're the high seed comin in and at get bounced by a hot calgary/anaheim type.
it could be us!
now we just need some goaltending....

milarso

jones wrote:

go wings!
ah to be a lower seed. usually we're the high seed comin in and at get bounced by a hot calgary/anaheim type.
it could be us!
now we just need some goaltending....

Jimmy's 24-14 this season with the No. 8 lowest GAA in the league. Far from dominant, but far from being terrible too. We need to start getting it done in OT- (12 extra period losses are tied for the most in the league) we need those points.
Anyway, I hope we end up playing San Jose in the first round. We own the Sharks this year and that team has a huge history of choking the playoffs.

pjfan021

detroit sucks...when that ref disallowed that goal it was a huge momentum shifter in the game. lots of shitty calls.

milarso

pjfan021 wrote:

detroit sucks...when that ref disallowed that goal it was a huge momentum shifter in the game. lots of shitty calls.

Yeah, Chicago's horrible defense/goaltending is the refs' fault...
Good teams don't give up five unanswered goals after a call that doesn't go their way...

Sour grapes are funny.

smarchee

2 big points today

Nashville lost so we are 1 point out of 7th and 1 ahead of 9th

megatron

milarso wrote:

jones wrote:

go wings!
ah to be a lower seed. usually we're the high seed comin in and at get bounced by a hot calgary/anaheim type.
it could be us!
now we just need some goaltending....

Jimmy's 24-14 this season with the No. 8 lowest GAA in the league. Far from dominant, but far from being terrible too. We need to start getting it done in OT- (12 extra period losses are tied for the most in the league) we need those points.
Anyway, I hope we end up playing San Jose in the first round. We own the Sharks this year and that team has a huge history of choking the playoffs.

yea jimmy's good. i was thinking like insane giguere 03 goaltending...i'm still sour about that
we're healthy. gonna get in. and gonna make some noise. we can hang with the big boys. i pray for a pens rematch

coachchris

Thought I'd chime in on a couple things here being a Wings fan myself.

I saw a post commenting on how Montreal won so many cups 11 vs Detroits 4 or whatever. The biggest difference.....there was only 6 teams until 1967 and then even then, it went to 12 what kind of argument do you really have?

Also, I've had the opportunity to get to meet/know Bowman, Babcock and Wilson. They are all completely different coaches. Over the past 15 years I've been able to pick the brains of some of the best. If I could pick a coach for my beloved Red Wings it would be Hitchcock assisted by Andy Murray and Mike Babcock. Toss Roger Neilson into the mix to do the video.....I can dream can't I?

Bowman believe it or not is not very good at x's and o's. In fact, when he was with the Wings he never went on the ice for practices, that was all delegated to Lewis and Smith. Bowman's asset has always been to put players on the ice at the right time. I will never argue that he couldn't run a bench. Bowman was always a man of timing. How do you screw this up? "Montreal had no fewer than nine skaters in the Hockey Hall of Fame (Yvan Cournoyer, Ken Dryden, Bob Gainey, Guy Lafleur, Guy Lapointe, Jacques Lemaire, Larry Robinson and Serge Savard) during Bowman's tenure".

Babcock is technically sound and a real student of the game. He is constantly searching for ways to better the team and himself. He holds everyone accountable and everyone is treated equally from 1st forward to 13th. He is respected by everyone throughout the league.

Wilson is all about motivation and he's one of the best in the game today. Keith Acton does all the technical work (why do you think they kept him around?). Wilson is also very good with the technology side of the game using his laptop nonstop. The Leafs actually have laptops on the bench with them.

Horos

I earned my redwings years ago!!!

coachchris

Babcock dropped the ball tonight

When Ian White took that penalty at 17:15 to make it 4 on 4 Babs should have pulled Howard to go up 5 on 4. Then when the Detroit penalty ended 18:23 they would have been 6 on 4 until 19:15.

Calgary couldn't have iced the puck for a full 1:07 until Detroit went up 6 on 5 (when White's penalty ends) since they weren't considered shorthanded until then.

Instead he waits until the 4 on 4 is up and then pulls him :?:

Doesn't make logical sense at all....wait until they are able to clear the puck without the threat of icing :?:

Yikes....big time screw up in a tight race. If they lose out to Calgary for the last spot this game is going to haunt me :evil:

Songburst

coachchris wrote:

Thought I'd chime in on a couple things here being a Wings fan myself.

I saw a post commenting on how Montreal won so many cups 11 vs Detroits 4 or whatever. The biggest difference.....there was only 6 teams until 1967 and then even then, it went to 12 what kind of argument do you really have?

Also, I've had the opportunity to get to meet/know Bowman, Babcock and Wilson. They are all completely different coaches. Over the past 15 years I've been able to pick the brains of some of the best. If I could pick a coach for my beloved Red Wings it would be Hitchcock assisted by Andy Murray and Mike Babcock. Toss Roger Neilson into the mix to do the video.....I can dream can't I?

Bowman believe it or not is not very good at x's and o's. In fact, when he was with the Wings he never went on the ice for practices, that was all delegated to Lewis and Smith. Bowman's asset has always been to put players on the ice at the right time. I will never argue that he couldn't run a bench. Bowman was always a man of timing. How do you screw this up? "Montreal had no fewer than nine skaters in the Hockey Hall of Fame (Yvan Cournoyer, Ken Dryden, Bob Gainey, Guy Lafleur, Guy Lapointe, Jacques Lemaire, Larry Robinson and Serge Savard) during Bowman's tenure".

Babcock is technically sound and a real student of the game. He is constantly searching for ways to better the team and himself. He holds everyone accountable and everyone is treated equally from 1st forward to 13th. He is respected by everyone throughout the league.

Wilson is all about motivation and he's one of the best in the game today. Keith Acton does all the technical work (why do you think they kept him around?). Wilson is also very good with the technology side of the game using his laptop nonstop. The Leafs actually have laptops on the bench with them.

Bowman really was a true details guy too. He would do things like make the St.Louis Blues move banners up (as they were too low according to NHL regulations) because his D liked to flip the puck high to get it out of the zone and the banners could potentially deflect a dump-out, get missed by an official and lead to a St Louis scoring chance -- if you ever get a chance, ask Ken Holland about that one.

That said, Scotty Bowman is the most to blame for the Wings transformation to a successful but pathetically boring style of play. It works but it is wretched to watch.

smarchee

Songburst you are now allowed to post in the Wings thread

go start a Wild thread lol

milarso

smarchee wrote:

go start a Wild thread lol

After last night, the Wild need more than their own thread.
5-1. Go Wings!

Jason P

Songburst wrote:

coachchris wrote:

Thought I'd chime in on a couple things here being a Wings fan myself.

I saw a post commenting on how Montreal won so many cups 11 vs Detroits 4 or whatever. The biggest difference.....there was only 6 teams until 1967 and then even then, it went to 12 what kind of argument do you really have?

Also, I've had the opportunity to get to meet/know Bowman, Babcock and Wilson. They are all completely different coaches. Over the past 15 years I've been able to pick the brains of some of the best. If I could pick a coach for my beloved Red Wings it would be Hitchcock assisted by Andy Murray and Mike Babcock. Toss Roger Neilson into the mix to do the video.....I can dream can't I?

Bowman believe it or not is not very good at x's and o's. In fact, when he was with the Wings he never went on the ice for practices, that was all delegated to Lewis and Smith. Bowman's asset has always been to put players on the ice at the right time. I will never argue that he couldn't run a bench. Bowman was always a man of timing. How do you screw this up? "Montreal had no fewer than nine skaters in the Hockey Hall of Fame (Yvan Cournoyer, Ken Dryden, Bob Gainey, Guy Lafleur, Guy Lapointe, Jacques Lemaire, Larry Robinson and Serge Savard) during Bowman's tenure".

Babcock is technically sound and a real student of the game. He is constantly searching for ways to better the team and himself. He holds everyone accountable and everyone is treated equally from 1st forward to 13th. He is respected by everyone throughout the league.

Wilson is all about motivation and he's one of the best in the game today. Keith Acton does all the technical work (why do you think they kept him around?). Wilson is also very good with the technology side of the game using his laptop nonstop. The Leafs actually have laptops on the bench with them.

Bowman really was a true details guy too. He would do things like make the St.Louis Blues move banners up (as they were too low according to NHL regulations) because his D liked to flip the puck high to get it out of the zone and the banners could potentially deflect a dump-out, get missed by an official and lead to a St Louis scoring chance -- if you ever get a chance, ask Ken Holland about that one.

That said, Scotty Bowman is the most to blame for the Wings transformation to a successful but pathetically boring style of play. It works but it is wretched to watch.

The buzzkill known as Songburst makes his triumphant return. Please take your hooey and applesauce elsewhere.

milarso

Jason P wrote:

The buzzkill known as Songburst makes his triumphant return. Please take your hooey and applesauce elsewhere.

It's like going to the "I heart waffles" thread and complaining that pancakes are better. I don't understand it.

Jason P

Getting back to hockey talk, it’s going to be a close race to the playoffs, but I’m sure that Chicago and San Jose can’t be happy to see Detroit battling to get one of the final spots. It’s not much of a reward to get a match-up with the two-time defending Western Conference Champions who are finally healthy and hitting their stride.

That said, they can’t let up for the rest of the year. As Mike Babcock would say, it should be fun.

smarchee

yeah, this is actually kind of fun, watching a play-off run, I can;t even remember one

I think we can knock out San Jose in a first round match-up, and I think we have a chance against Chicago because of their goaltending.

That said, unless StLouis gets hot, I think its Detroit/Calgary/Nashville for 7 & 8th

milarso

Heading down to the Joe tonight to watch them take on Ryan Miller and the Sabres. Should be a fun one!

RoughMix

milarso wrote:

Heading down to the Joe tonight to watch them take on Ryan Miller and the Sabres. Should be a fun one!

Did you see the puck hit the netting?
How the hell did the refs miss it?
Half the players thought the play was dead.
Good thing Rafalski came through.
These ot/shootout games have been killing us this year.

milarso

RoughMix wrote:

milarso wrote:

Heading down to the Joe tonight to watch them take on Ryan Miller and the Sabres. Should be a fun one!

Did you see the puck hit the netting?
How the hell did the refs miss it?
Half the players thought the play was dead.
Good thing Rafalski came through.
These ot/shootout games have been killing us this year.

Yeah we did! Everyone in our section was booing like crazy. Obviously, since we were at the game, we didn't hear any TV backlash. Did the commentators call out the refs.