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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    It is a power struggle in a way, or a game. :D

    If Sansa were to marry Loras Tylrell, that could give the Tyrells an in with the North. The Eyrie and their bannermen would benefit the Lanisters.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210

    Yes, Littlefinger is going to the Eyrie to marry Kat's sister. And yes, Loras is gay and Margery is trying to set him up with Sansa. They are both moves to try and gain power for each family they are working for or part of. The Eyrie would help the Lanisters, and as they said in the episode, Sansa could be a key to gaining the North.
    So basically the Lannisters dont want him marrying Catelynnes sister? Wouldnt they rather have him marry Sansa?
    Sansa marrying Loras would help them as well, no?

    No, they do want him marrying her sister. That is who they are going to have him marry.

    I think Margaery and her grandmother have a different agenda of their own apart from the Lannisters. She previously stated that she wants to be THE queen.
    LOL, Im talking about Littlefinger.


    Of course Margaery will become queen when she marrry's Joffrey.
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    So basically the Lannisters dont want him marrying Catelynnes sister? Wouldnt they rather have him marry Sansa?
    Sansa marrying Loras would help them as well, no?

    No, they do want him marrying her sister. That is who they are going to have him marry.

    I think Margaery and her grandmother have a different agenda of their own apart from the Lannisters. She previously stated that she wants to be THE queen.
    LOL, Im talking about Littlefinger.


    Of course Margaery will become queen when she marrry's Joffrey.

    OK, I am confused then as to what you are asking. The Lannisters want Littlefinger to marry Catelyns sister so they can have the Eryie as their ally.

    Obviously she will be the queen. I think she wants to be THE queen without a king.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Don't want to give away any spoilers, but since they are following to books pretty close these questions regarding Littlefinger and Sansa should get explained more over the course of the season.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210

    No, they do want him marrying her sister. That is who they are going to have him marry.

    I think Margaery and her grandmother have a different agenda of their own apart from the Lannisters. She previously stated that she wants to be THE queen.
    LOL, Im talking about Littlefinger.


    Of course Margaery will become queen when she marrry's Joffrey.

    OK, I am confused then as to what you are asking. The Lannisters want Littlefinger to marry Catelyns sister so they can have the Eryie as their ally.

    Obviously she will be the queen. I think she wants to be THE queen without a king.
    Trust me, I'm most likely confused here.

    To me, wouldnt the Lannsiters want Littlefinger to marry Sansa, because she is next in line after Rob, and therefore she would be the rightful owner of the armies and riches of the North?

    I get that Margaery wants Sansa to marry Loras, so the Tyrells would get Winterfells power/lands, but wouldnt that in turn help the lannisters, since she is marrying Joffrey? Or are Tyrells trying to eventually takeover the Lannisters? :crazy: :crazy:
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    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    LOL, Im talking about Littlefinger.


    Of course Margaery will become queen when she marrry's Joffrey.

    OK, I am confused then as to what you are asking. The Lannisters want Littlefinger to marry Catelyns sister so they can have the Eryie as their ally.

    Obviously she will be the queen. I think she wants to be THE queen without a king.
    Trust me, I'm most likely confused here.

    To me, wouldnt the Lannsiters want Littlefinger to marry Sansa, because she is next in line after Rob, and therefore she would be the rightful owner of the armies and riches of the North?

    I get that Margaery wants Sansa to marry Loras, so the Tyrells would get Winterfells power/lands, but wouldnt that in turn help the lannisters, since she is marrying Joffrey? Or are Tyrells trying to eventually takeover the Lannisters? :crazy: :crazy:

    OK, I am on the same page now. :lol: I agree with everything you said. Like PJsteelerfan said, I think we need to just be patient.
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  • Yarden
    Yarden Posts: 820
    great episode.
    dany's scene at the end was so good. just wish it was longer.. favorite scene so far in the season..

    they should've set up the resentment towards Mormont better but that was a great scene as well.

    man, Bolton's men make the Lannisters look like the good guys..

    the Queen of Thorns dominated the episode.. she was the "Tyrion" of the episode for me..

    seeing some of the Starks reunite is really nice to see even if it's just a creepy dream..
  • Mamasan23
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Don't want to give away any spoilers, but since they are following to books pretty close these questions regarding Littlefinger and Sansa should get explained more over the course of the season.


    makes you want to just blurt out the clear answers to the confusion doesn't it??? I have a friend who is a big GOT fan and he hasn't read the books so when we talk about the series all I can do is tell him to remember the game.
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    Don't want to give away any spoilers, but since they are following to books pretty close these questions regarding Littlefinger and Sansa should get explained more over the course of the season.


    makes you want to just blurt out the clear answers to the confusion doesn't it??? I have a friend who is a big GOT fan and he hasn't read the books so when we talk about the series all I can do is tell him to remember the game.

    I appreciate your restraint. :D
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    Don't want to give away any spoilers, but since they are following to books pretty close these questions regarding Littlefinger and Sansa should get explained more over the course of the season.


    makes you want to just blurt out the clear answers to the confusion doesn't it??? I have a friend who is a big GOT fan and he hasn't read the books so when we talk about the series all I can do is tell him to remember the game.

    I appreciate your restraint. :D

    youre welcome. :lol:
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  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    Just so those who have not read the books are clear Littlefinger is going to the Eyrie to marry Catlyn's sister Lysa who we met in season one who still lets her 8 year old child breastfeed from her. She is the widow of Jon Arryon the guy who they showed dead in kings landing in the very first episode that Ned and Robert both fostered with when they were younger.

    Just wanted to make sure we were all ready for that craziness again :D
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    intodeep wrote:
    Just so those who have not read the books are clear Littlefinger is going to the Eyrie to marry Catlyn's sister Lysa who we met in season one who still lets her 8 year old child breastfeed from her.

    Just wanted to make sure we were all ready for that craziness again :D
    Ahh, thank you for that. I remember that well.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    intodeep wrote:
    She is the widow of Jon Arryon the guy who they showed dead in kings landing in the very first episode that Ned and Robert both fostered with when they were younger.

    Just wanted to make sure we were all ready for that craziness again :D

    Thanks. So he was the Hand of the King before Ned Stark. Were we told how he died, I dont remember? Or are we not to know yet?
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  • rafie
    rafie Posts: 2,160
    intodeep wrote:
    She is the widow of Jon Arryon the guy who they showed dead in kings landing in the very first episode that Ned and Robert both fostered with when they were younger.

    Just wanted to make sure we were all ready for that craziness again :D

    Thanks. So he was the Hand of the King before Ned Stark. Were we told how he died, I dont remember? Or are we not to know yet?
    Suspected poisoning, but not revealed by who. Kat got a letter from her sister (the widow) accusing the Lannisters.
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  • rearviewross
    rearviewross Posts: 3,055
    rafie wrote:
    intodeep wrote:
    She is the widow of Jon Arryon the guy who they showed dead in kings landing in the very first episode that Ned and Robert both fostered with when they were younger.

    Just wanted to make sure we were all ready for that craziness again :D

    Thanks. So he was the Hand of the King before Ned Stark. Were we told how he died, I dont remember? Or are we not to know yet?
    Suspected poisoning, but not revealed by who. Kat got a letter from her sister (the widow) accusing the Lannisters.

    Thanks.

    Is it me or is this the fastest frickin hour of the week. Seriously, I swear it goes by in like 10 minutes.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    rafie wrote:

    Thanks. So he was the Hand of the King before Ned Stark. Were we told how he died, I dont remember? Or are we not to know yet?
    Suspected poisoning, but not revealed by who. Kat got a letter from her sister (the widow) accusing the Lannisters.

    Thanks.

    Is it me or is this the fastest frickin hour of the week. Seriously, I swear it goes by in like 10 minutes.
    That last episode was so good that the it felt like 20 minutes.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003

    Thanks.

    Is it me or is this the fastest frickin hour of the week. Seriously, I swear it goes by in like 10 minutes.
    That last episode was so good that the it felt like 20 minutes.


    damn show should go for 2 hours.. maybe then well feel like we get an hours worth.
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  • Dr. Delight
    Dr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Another solid episode.

    Was good to see all of the discussion about Sansa/LittleFinger /Loras laid out in this episode. Some nice surprises there, especially at the end in Tywins Chamber.
    And so you see, I have come to doubt
    All that I once held as true
    I stand alone without beliefs
    The only truth I know is you.
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Another solid episode.

    Was good to see all of the discussion about Sansa/LittleFinger /Loras laid out in this episode. Some nice surprises there, especially at the end in Tywins Chamber.

    It was a good one. The pieces are being put into place. Kind of why it is hard to answer questions about people and their intentions without major spoilers.

    And Ygritte- wow :D
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...