A GAME OF THRONES - Discussion Thread

rrivers

jervin007 wrote:

Enkidu wrote:

Next week is the finale for season one? I guess now I have to read the books. I can't believe how much I love this show.

One question - I still don't understand who the guy is who's sort of the advisor to Daenerys. Can someone explain him to me please? Thanks.

His name is Jorah Mormont. He was exiled from the seven kingdoms by Eddard Stark for selling slaves I believe and he fled to Westeros. His father is Jeor Mormont, who is actually the leader of the knights watch on the wall. John Snow was assigned to him and saved his life recently. In the most recent episode Jeor gives his family sword to John. That sword was supposed to go to Jorah, but he left it behind when he went to Westeros.

Well said. I'm in the middle of Book 3 and I didn't remember that Lord Mormont and Jorah were related. I have a horrible memory for books.

rrivers

mca47 wrote:

intodeep wrote:

Sorry my geek rage has calmed some it seems i'm in the minority.
I guess i should have known the battle scenes would not be there but i thought they could have handled it better plus part of me was really hoping to see it. In the book it just talks about how Jaime killed 8 armed men who were assigned to protect rob trying to get to him and made it just sound like it was a hell of a fight all around.
As for stuff they left out i'm upset about... i guess they can work around it but it seems like it should be a big deal.
oh well.
next week should be wild and then time for the long wait before season two. Can't wait for the blu ray

Yeah, the show doesn't really show Jaime as being this badass soldier. I know they have mentioned previous battles he's been in, but to me the show almost portrays him as being a spoiled Lannister who never really gets his hands dirty. I guess I also feel that way in how the fight between him and Ned went. After the random soldier speared Ned, Jaime got pissed off...almost a "I wanted this victory to show I'm a real man" kinda thing...
I know the book portrays Jaime differently...as a tough soldier (so I'm told), I just wonder why the show doesn't focus on this.
Even in the last episode, they show Tyrion waking up, Bronn saying "they won" but it was a diversion, then it went to Jaime captured and brought to Robb. The first impression I got other than "awesome, they got him!" was "I guess it wasn't much of a fight..." :?

I could be wrong but even in the books Jaime isn't shown to be a badass soldier. It is talked about a lot and everyone seems to agree he is, but we rarely see him in battle and even then he's not always that badass.

Another thing: sometimes (more in the books) I get the impression Jaime isn't that happy with the Kingslayer title. It seems sometimes people call "Kingslayer" in a mocking way because the way he killed the king was not the bravest way.

I could be wrong about all of this.

jervin007

rrivers wrote:

jervin007 wrote:

Enkidu wrote:

Next week is the finale for season one? I guess now I have to read the books. I can't believe how much I love this show.

One question - I still don't understand who the guy is who's sort of the advisor to Daenerys. Can someone explain him to me please? Thanks.

His name is Jorah Mormont. He was exiled from the seven kingdoms by Eddard Stark for selling slaves I believe and he fled to Westeros. His father is Jeor Mormont, who is actually the leader of the knights watch on the wall. John Snow was assigned to him and saved his life recently. In the most recent episode Jeor gives his family sword to John. That sword was supposed to go to Jorah, but he left it behind when he went to Westeros.

Well said. I'm in the middle of Book 3 and I didn't remember that Lord Mormont and Jorah were related. I have a horrible memory for books.

I know they addressed it in the book, but I don't think it was discussed in great length. I just put the connection together because of the Mormont last name. Its tough to read the books because there are way more characters to keep track of making it easy to miss something.

intodeep

I thougth that hole thing about Sean Bean was bad ass. He should have blown the horn of gondor and whipped Ice out and got medevil on their ass

rrivers

jervin007 wrote:

Enkidu wrote:

Next week is the finale for season one? I guess now I have to read the books. I can't believe how much I love this show.

One question - I still don't understand who the guy is who's sort of the advisor to Daenerys. Can someone explain him to me please? Thanks.

His name is Jorah Mormont. He was exiled from the seven kingdoms by Eddard Stark for selling slaves I believe and he fled to Westeros. His father is Jeor Mormont, who is actually the leader of the knights watch on the wall. John Snow was assigned to him and saved his life recently. In the most recent episode Jeor gives his family sword to John. That sword was supposed to go to Jorah, but he left it behind when he went to Westeros.

Yeah I am constantly flipping back to the index to see who people are.

LloydXmas

Just picked up HBO for the summer shows and gonna check out the first episode tonight.

The HBO go app for iPhone/iPad is awesome. HBO on the go

P23J

I just watched episode 9. Totally didn't see that coming!

This episode makes me want to go and get the books for sure.

mca47

After this season I'm going to be really tempted to go out and buy the books. I know they are better, but I'm also torn because I like the suspense of not knowing whats going to happen on the show...

Dilemma.

jervin007

mca47 wrote:

After this season I'm going to be really tempted to go out and buy the books. I know they are better, but I'm also torn because I like the suspense of not knowing whats going to happen on the show...

Dilemma.

The books are great and really help to develop the many characters in the storyline. Unfortunately this also results in some VERY slow sections of the books that I re-read to help me fall asleep.

rrivers

jervin007 wrote:

mca47 wrote:

After this season I'm going to be really tempted to go out and buy the books. I know they are better, but I'm also torn because I like the suspense of not knowing whats going to happen on the show...

Dilemma.

The books are great and really help to develop the many characters in the storyline. Unfortunately this also results in some VERY slow sections of the books that I re-read to help me fall asleep.

I enjoy the books but jervin makes a good point. While I wouldn't say I've been bored by sections of the books, there are parts that demand a lot of concentration (at least for me) to understand either who the characters are and/or how they fit into things.

Case in point: I was at a point in the third book that I wasn't that interested in and had been putting off reading for a few days. Today I made myself sit down and read it and I really enjoyed it and can't wait to get back to it. This happens roughly 1.4 million times during each book. But again, I wouldn't say it was because it is boring or bad writing. One big thing, especially in the later books I'm finding, is the amount of time before you get back to a character (each chapter is titled with a character's name and told from his/her POV). So it might be a 100 pages or more before you get back to one storyline and often I don't remember exactly what happened the last time we saw that character. Yesterday a character was dealing with a major problem and I had to go back and re-read the end of his last chapter to remind myself.

It might sound like I am giving the books a poor review, but that couldn't be further from the truth. I love them and highly recommend them. Just want to let you know what to expect. I count it as a plus that it is so detailed without losing the fun of the story. It actually makes me have to pay attention! (The horror!)

intodeep

A couple friends of mine have been out of town so they just watched the newest episode last night.

I got a call at 10:30 with both of them on speaker phone all flabergausted demanding to know if that is how it happened in the books or if HBO was just doing it etc etc

I was like strap in its a long ride and it has only just begone.

I also wanted to say i loved how before Ned leaves from Winterfell he tells Jon When I return we'll talk about your mother......

jervin007

Exactly rrivers. I am reading A Feast For Crows now and there are so many new characters that are introduced and cause confusion. Does make you pay attention though .

There are some chapters, which as you indicated are titled with the persons name, that I am pumped to dive into. However, others I just know are going to be slow and I have to really fight myself not to power skim.

Reminds me a lot of Robert Jordan's style. However, the stories are great and well worth the read!

intodeep

jervin007 wrote:

Exactly rrivers. I am reading A Feast For Crows now and there are so many new characters that are introduced and cause confusion. Does make you pay attention though .

There are some chapters, which as you indicated are titled with the persons name, that I am pumped to dive into. However, others I just know are going to be slow and I have to really fight myself not to power skim.

Reminds me a lot of Robert Jordan's style. However, the stories are great and well worth the read!

Feast gets a bad rap for beign slow. It does introduce a ton of new stuff and gives you a much better idea of what is going on with the Iron Islands and Dorne which is cool.
I think i enjoyed it more then most becausei knew what i was getting into when i started it.

I found this article on TV Guide and all the main actors give what their house sigil would be and their first decree if they were on the throne. It is funny the kids (sansa and arya) both lash out at school in their first ruling and they are so different like the charactor they play (arya wants a dirty turtle sansa wants a pretty ballarina lol)

1. What personal sigil would best represent you?
2. If you ascended to the Iron Throne in modern times, what would your first ruling as king or queen be?

So here are their answers, which arrived via raven, naturally:

Mark Addy as King Robert Baratheon, aka "The Usurper"
Sigil: It would be a gryphon, a creature with the body of a lion and a head of an eagle. I don't know why, but to be attacked by one of those would be pretty horrible.
First ruling: Free beer for everyone. Absolutely!

Sean Bean as Lord Eddard "Ned" Stark, aka "The Hand"
Sigil: Two crossed swords because it represents my football team, Sheffield United. That's their badge. The team has been relegated, by the way.
First ruling: Sheffield United gets promoted next season.

Lena Headey as Queen Cersei Lannister, aka "Blonde Ambition"
Sigil: A big wooden sailing ship with a busty maiden shouting, "Ahoy, mate!!"
First ruling: Everyone has a limitless shopping day where they can go wherever they want, buy whatever they want, and no one asks if you want store credit.

Nicolaj Coster-Waldau as Jaime Lannister, aka "The Kingslayer"
Sigil: A pint of milk.
First ruling: Fawlty Towers marathon on all networks.


Kit Harington as Jon Snow, aka "The Bastard"
Sigil: I immediately thought of one but it's not very cool. I'm a Capricorn. A Capricorn is a mountain goat isn't it? So I think that I'm a goat. I don't know, but it feels like it should be a wolf now honestly after doing this show. God knows what it was before, but now it's a wolf.
First ruling: I don't know. My mother would probably choose!

Sophie Turner as Sansa Stark, aka "The Lost Stark"
Sigil: I wouldn't have a wolf because I'm not that strong, I'm not that powerful. I'd maybe have a ballerina because ballerinas have such grace and they also have strength within them, so that's probably me. I'm much stronger than Sansa is at the start but also I'm kind, caring I suppose. I'm Grade 7 ballet at the moment.
First ruling: No homework!

Maisie Williams as Arya Stark, aka "Boy"
Sigil: A turtle because they can go on land, they can go in sea. They're my favorite animal. They're really cute and they can grow up really big. They've got different types of turtles, there's snapping turtles and really cute ones, like, tiny ones. There's a good variety of them, and you never get bored.
First ruling: I would ban school uniforms for everyone, all over the world. They're so frustrating. At our school we have a thing called summer uniforms, and you're not allowed to take your jumper off when you're outside so you get really, really hot and our school uniform is black, so it's horrible. If you ban school uniforms then everyone could wear what they wanted to wear and you wouldn't get hot.

Jason Momoa as Khal Drogo, aka "My Sun and Stars"
Sigil: A lion. It's the king of the jungle. Have you ever seen a lion up close? Drogo walking with a gigantic lion. It's pretty rad.
First ruling: Free beer and free sex for everyone -- free love that is. Back to the '60s, man. And no clothes ... except for Mark Addy!

Emilia Clarke as Daenerys Targaryen, aka "Moon of My Life"
Sigil: I would be an element -- water. Because as an actor you have to be changeable and water can be so many different things. Deep, like water. (laughs) We could go on for hours. The metaphor just keeps on going!
First ruling: There will be music playing in the streets, joyful, happy music. Reggae!

Harry Lloyd as Viserys Targaryen, aka "The Dragon"
Sigil: I would love to say dragon because they are clearly the best sigil in Game of Thrones. But for me it would probably be something small and nocturnal. A bat? Dunno why.
First ruling: A two-week house party in Buckingham Palace.

George R.R. Martin, author, aka "A Cruel and Savage God"
Sigil: Probably something like a quill pen for a writer or something like that would be appropriate. But way back in the 1980s, I won the Hugo Award which is the biggest award for science fiction fantasy and it's shaped like a silver rocketship. I won two of them in a single year which no one had ever done before. And so for a while, my now wife, then my girlfriend, Paris, would make me these sigils of two crossed Hugos instead of crossed swords.
First ruling: Everybody has to get HBO.

Mamasan23

intodeep wrote:

Another thing: sometimes (more in the books) I get the impression Jaime isn't that happy with the Kingslayer title. It seems sometimes people call "Kingslayer" in a mocking way because the way he killed the king was not the bravest way.

On this week's episode didn't Jaime's father ask him if being called "Kingslayer" bothered him and he said "of course it does". I haven't read the books yet but I probably will since I'll be in serious withdrawal after this weekend!

rrivers

intodeep wrote:

jervin007 wrote:

Exactly rrivers. I am reading A Feast For Crows now and there are so many new characters that are introduced and cause confusion. Does make you pay attention though .

There are some chapters, which as you indicated are titled with the persons name, that I am pumped to dive into. However, others I just know are going to be slow and I have to really fight myself not to power skim.

Reminds me a lot of Robert Jordan's style. However, the stories are great and well worth the read!

Feast gets a bad rap for beign slow. It does introduce a ton of new stuff and gives you a much better idea of what is going on with the Iron Islands and Dorne which is cool.
I think i enjoyed it more then most becausei knew what i was getting into when i started it.


I bet I enjoy Feast (when I get to it) because I will go into thinking it might not be as good.

intodeep

Last night :(

pjsteelerfan

so pissed have to wait a year for season 2.

smarchee

picked up the first book today

davidtrios

the countdown begins for boardwalk empire...

mca47

Davidtrios wrote:

the countdown begins for boardwalk empire...

Amen!! Love that show!!