For the record I don't yell, I don't smoke and I rarely drink during but i'm not about to tell people who do those things to shut up. They paid just as much as I do.
Mmkay, so the next time you go to the movies, I'll be sure to yell shit the whole movie, since I paid just as much as you did. And we'll see how much fun you have.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
For the record I don't yell, I don't smoke and I rarely drink during but i'm not about to tell people who do those things to shut up. They paid just as much as I do.
Mmkay, so the next time you go to the movies, I'll be sure to yell shit the whole movie, since I paid just as much as you did. And we'll see how much fun you have.
We are talking about a concert by a rock artist. Not a quiet movie where everyone is silent. Lets keep in mind, not everyone at these shows are 10 Club members. How are the general public supposed to know about these pretentious "rules"?
And again go back to my previous comment when I mentioned that if it weren't for people yelling things out, Ed would have never told the Ledbetter story at Newark. He didn't seem to mind then. Should we not cheer after songs either?
I hate this thread. It makes me ashamed and embarrassed to be a fan. If I sent this to a someone who is not a fan they would probably hate all of us.
Like when Eddie was doing Brain Damage by Pink Floyd during Chicago Night 2.... Some losers were screaming during it. And that's such a mellow and quiet song. It pissed Eddie off too because he threw his lyric sheet to the side and then went into Masters of War.
THAt is the only time such shit annoys me. as i said, overall...i don't give a shit what anyone does......UNTIL it infringes on the show.....that we ALL paid to see/hear. and people may say is a primadonna, whatever...i don't give a shit.....but if it bugs him, and thus interferes/hinders his perfromance...possibly affected how the performance goes down.....THAT pisses me off. anything else that goes down at shows.....couldn't care less......
For the record I don't yell, I don't smoke and I rarely drink during but i'm not about to tell people who do those things to shut up. They paid just as much as I do.
Mmkay, so the next time you go to the movies, I'll be sure to yell shit the whole movie, since I paid just as much as you did. And we'll see how much fun you have.
We are talking about a concert by a rock artist. Not a quiet movie where everyone is silent. Lets keep in mind, not everyone at these shows are 10 Club members. How are the general public supposed to know about these pretentious "rules"?
And again go back to my previous comment when I mentioned that if it weren't for people yelling things out, Ed would have never told the Ledbetter story at Newark. He didn't seem to mind then. Should we not cheer after songs either?
I hate this thread. It makes me ashamed and embarrassed to be a fan. If I sent this to a someone who is not a fan they would probably hate all of us.
christ it's a PEARL JAM MESSAGE BOARD....what do you EXPECT here? seriously?
i will say one thing that made me 'embarassed' to be a fan, at least one particular night being in one particular audience. NYC night 2, some guy yelling out some very lewd comment to the female singer that evening, sorry can't remember her name. THAT was classless. and sure, it is no reflection on ME as an individual....but as a 'collective'...as a fan base...as a new yorker.....it was embarassing. what shit people say here......TYPE here....in discussing shows, attitudes, whatever.....we're all pj nutters, so i expect some off the wall shit. :P just sayin'.......
bottomline, crazed fan or not...if you are at a mellow/chill acoustic show.....sitting in your seats no less.....it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it's a different atmosphere than a full-out rock concert, and that yea.....a little decorum/respect is cool. really tho, whatthefuckever eh?
We are talking about a concert by a rock artist. Not a quiet movie where everyone is silent. Lets keep in mind, not everyone at these shows are 10 Club members. How are the general public supposed to know about these pretentious "rules"?
And again go back to my previous comment when I mentioned that if it weren't for people yelling things out, Ed would have never told the Ledbetter story at Newark. He didn't seem to mind then. Should we not cheer after songs either?
The general public should know about these rules because I hope at some point in their lives they were taught manners. And how to respect someone else when they're talking. Yes, sometimes fun stories come out of what is shouted out (Eddie told some story about some guy or whatever during DC 2 after a comment), but when the poor guy is trying to talk and everyone is screaming "I love you!", "Play Alive!!", "YOU'RE THE MANNNNNNNN", etc etc, so much that is seems like Eddie is a monkey on stage and everyone is screaming at him to dance, it's a little out of hand.
I went to both DC shows last year, and it got to the point where everyone was yelling over top of each other and Eddie just stopped talking and strummed his guitar because it was too much. I'm not talking one call out every once and awhile; the whole damn show was people shouting stuff literally one after another between every song. Eddie said something a couple of times, and you can tell he was annoyed. That should NOT be allowed, it shouldn't be "ok" or accepted.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
Seems to me you wouldn't need the encouragement of this post to accomplish your goal...
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You have never met me or seen me or my behavior at a concert. What is your basis for this ignorant comment? Drop me a line and let me know what shows you are going to. I will do my best to annoy you as well
For the record I don't yell, I don't smoke and I rarely drink during but i'm not about to tell people who do those things to shut up. They paid just as much as I do.
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I'm just very opinionated. I like that I am free to agree and argue on these boards. Even more so now that we are paying to use them.
For the record I don't yell, I don't smoke and I rarely drink during but i'm not about to tell people who do those things to shut up. They paid just as much as I do.
Mmkay, so the next time you go to the movies, I'll be sure to yell shit the whole movie, since I paid just as much as you did. And we'll see how much fun you have.
We are talking about a concert by a rock artist. Not a quiet movie where everyone is silent. Lets keep in mind, not everyone at these shows are 10 Club members. How are the general public supposed to know about these pretentious "rules"?
And again go back to my previous comment when I mentioned that if it weren't for people yelling things out, Ed would have never told the Ledbetter story at Newark. He didn't seem to mind then. Should we not cheer after songs either?
I hate this thread. It makes me ashamed and embarrassed to be a fan. If I sent this to a someone who is not a fan they would probably hate all of us.
pretentious?
yes he is a rock star.but..
its an acoustic show. not a rock concert
what if eddie did a poetry reading..or held a seminar on awesomeness
ooo its a rock star..lets yell the whole time
your points suck..stop
For the most part, the crowd at Newark was awesome. I haven't witnessed these displays of disrespect since I only have one show to go on so maybe I am not the one to be judging crowds. I do have a friend who went to DC and she didn't mention anything about the crowd ruining the show for her. I am in total agreement that people should be respectful when he is talking but when people here start to get mad at people for drinking or being loud during songs, that is when I get mad.
I hate that this turned into a huge argument. We obviously don't all agree on this issue.
You'd hope as much, but at the PJ shows, there's always plenty of it going on within the fan club seating areas.
Stupid drunks will be stupid drunks. I wish venues wouldn't sell alcohol. I don't give a shit how much profit it is for them. I'd rather pay $5 for a water or soda and enjoy my concert without the mayhem, than have the shitheads on either side of me make 10 trips back and forth to the concession stands.
Smoke a J, relax, enjoy the music, and shut the fuck up. But keep testosterone and alocohol out of my face. Thanks.
For the most part, the crowd at Newark was awesome. I haven't witnessed these displays of disrespect since I only have one show to go on so maybe I am not the one to be judging crowds. I do have a friend who went to DC and she didn't mention anything about the crowd ruining the show for her. I am in total agreement that people should be respectful when he is talking but when people here start to get mad at people for drinking or being loud during songs, that is when I get mad.
I hate that this turned into a huge argument. We obviously don't all agree on this issue.
has it, really?
it's a discussion...and quite honestly, seems pretty civilized, overall, to me. people are expressing their experiences, and their personal opinions......of course we're not all going to agree on this, or most, issues. such is life.......:)
*takes a bottle down and passes it around*
lifes' too short to be bitter.....
btw - no one has ruined a show for me, ever....i don't allow anything to interfere with MY personal enjoyment. however, sure...i've shared my opinions overall....
I think there is a balance. I wouldn't want to be in audience that was all buttoned up like it was going to the symphony but I would also want them to be a little more restrained than they are at a typical Pearl Jam show given the intimacy of the venue and the fact that it's a solo acoustic gig.
That's my preference but like it's been stated before, you can't control other people. I just try to tune out and ignore the dummies and enjoy the concert.
i can't wait to spill my beer and flick ashes on all of you!! ....(yeah..like i'd waste any of my $8 beer) but the ashes..watch out for the ashes!!
if it's a doob....you can simply pass it my way....if it's your ciggie, well still no biggie.....b/c i will then proceed to put your cig out on your forehead. it's all good!
i just dont get it.....
where do you people get off telling others how to behave at a concert?????
i just dont get it.............
worry about your fucking self.............
That's the thing. I AM worried about myself, and the $80 of my hard-earned money paid to see the show. And when someone is falling down drunk on top of me (and this HAS happened, at more than one PJ show), or screaming through the entire thing to the point where I can't hear the music, THAT is where I "get off" requesting (not telling) others to behave so we can all enjoy it together.
No offense, but I don't see how sloppy drunk is any more offensive to your seat neighbors than a fog of unwanted smoke.
Fair enough, I do realize not everyone is a fan of that smell. But weed is far less irritating of a smoke (to lungs, eyes, nose, etc.) than cigarette. To myself and anyone else I know. It's also less irritating than sustaining bruises earned when yet another drunk is escorted out of the venue and kicks me as they pass...
Agreed... I'm a smoker... but I'd be more annoyed by people smoking beside me than people drinking beside me.
Some people like to stay sober for the gigs (I'm one of them) and others don't... we're all different. Is somebody shouting a few words REALLY going to ruin your experience?
We're not talking a few words shouted. At least I'm not. I'm talking toxically intoxicated. Fall-down, stupid, unaware of surroundings, DRUNK. And it happens WAY too often at shows for my preference.
I should have been more specific. I obviously do not expect venues to stop selling beer. I just wish people knew their limits, and respected them, and others around them. We're all there for the same purpose: To enjoy the act on stage.
You ask what gives us the right to dictate how others behave? I ask, what gives others the right to be so selfish in their actions that they legitimately fuck up the experience for others??
i don't allow anything to interfere with MY personal enjoyment. .
What about if you're not so tall and there is this huge ass person right in front of you and not only he's huge but he's also rude and not willing to realize the fact that he's completely blocking your view and you can't see even a tiny bit of the stage for one lousy second? What about then? I know Vedder solo shows are sit-down events, I know that. But believe me there are some people out there who do not understand that for some reason.
I have no patience for bad music and stupid people...
The whole world will be different soon the whole world will be RELIEVED
Can I stand up during Porch?? Saw him in New York last summer and got yelled because I stood up and tried to get into Porch. ITS PORCH! And it was closing the set. Such an intense song, can't handle it sitting down, I don't care if its acoustic or not you have to rock out to that song. I bet the person behind me thought I was only getting into it because it was a Pearl Jam song and thought it was the only thing I recognized. Its just more intense than anything else he plays in the set until the end.
if it's a doob....you can simply pass it my way....if it's your ciggie, well still no biggie.....b/c i will then proceed to put your cig out on your forehead. it's all good!
i quite cigs 7 years ago..filthy habit(hear that Ed? )
so jus da ganga mon..every ting be irie..cept fo da cig in da forehead mon..ya little bumbaclot!
i don't allow anything to interfere with MY personal enjoyment. .
What about if you're not so tall and there is this huge ass person right in front of you and not only he's huge but he's also rude and not willing to realize the fact that he's completely blocking your view and you can't see even a tiny bit of the stage for one lousy second? What about then? I know Vedder solo shows are sit-down events, I know that. But believe me there are some people out there who do not understand that for some reason.
The guy in front of me stood up in front of me at a Ben Harper show. He was the only person standing in the entire venue...it was mainly an acoustic set, and Ben had "suggested" that it would be cool if people sat. I could not see a thing without leaning WAY over to the side. I asked the guy if he could sit, and he had basically the same attitude that a lot of people have here. It's my right, this is a concert, blah blah...thanks asshole.
This isn't a fight for your personal freedom, I just think people should take the general atmosphere into account. Hmmm, a show in a theatre, Ed is seated himself playing solo and acoustic, everyone else appears to be sitting....fuck it, i'm going to act like it's a bar show with a full band cause i'm just too big a fan to sit and listen.
Please this is for those who make Eddie's gigs an unpleasant experience:
If you're going to drink don't get drunk at the venue you have 364 days of the year to do that, believe me you'll keep better memories of the gig if you drink after.
Please don't talk in the middle of the songs or when Eddie is talking, the people around want to enjoy the gig and don't want to hear your opinion or your unimportant life, you can share the story of your whole life after the gig with a few beers.
Don't yell "i love you Eddie" Eddie knows that already because you're there.
There'll be plenty of merchandise, no need to kick push or being rude to your fellow jammers.
Don't scream requesting PJ songs, you know Eddie will play a few, If you're lucky enough he'll play some of this songs, Betterman, Soon Forget, Small Town, Porch, Sometimes, Parting ways, Indifference (only if Ben Harper is around), Lukin, I'm Open, Can't keep, Thumbing my way, Arc, Gone, Last Kiss and maybe a few more.
And please don't respond to this thread saying that you're going to do whatever the hell you want at the gig because is a free country, i know that already
Please do not ruin the Philly show. Yeah and don't ask to hear Red Mosquito and songs like that.
On the funny side though, someone at San Diego 1 asked to hear Jesse's Girl and he started playing the first 5 seconds then stopped and made a pretty funny comment.
to remain seated for such a song would be considered bad manners in my book.
it's just not happening, no matter what the circumstances.
I was gonna say how come nobody ever admits to being THAT person (sit down, I can't see)? Cos there are evidently quite a few of them... but finally one person's owned up to it... I just don't get it. Only concert I've ever been to that was seated and actually had most people sitting was the Aussie Pink Floyd.. but the odd time there'd be a few people standing up for certain songs and it didn't seem to bother anyone... it certainly didn't bother me. I love seeing people get into it... whatever ways they have of doing that... once they're not hurting anyone!
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As long as the guy in front of me doesnt piss all over and then proceed to get kicked out, while his friend spends the rest of the time trying to figure out who got his friend kicked out, it will be a better experience than Chicago last year.
Can I stand up during Porch?? Saw him in New York last summer and got yelled because I stood up and tried to get into Porch. ITS PORCH! And it was closing the set. Such an intense song, can't handle it sitting down, I don't care if its acoustic or not you have to rock out to that song. I bet the person behind me thought I was only getting into it because it was a Pearl Jam song and thought it was the only thing I recognized. Its just more intense than anything else he plays in the set until the end.
ny1? 3rd row or so? r u a chick in love with stone?..if so i was behind you..
i remember a pair of girls getting yelled at for standing up during porch
even if it wasnt you i really wanted to stand up for porch but no one moved.i didnt wanna ruin it for anyone
i went nuts in my chair..i was hovering half sitting..guess im a weenie but i can sit in my seat if thats how the crowd is
I think there is a balance. I wouldn't want to be in audience that was all buttoned up like it was going to the symphony but I would also want them to be a little more restrained than they are at a typical Pearl Jam show given the intimacy of the venue and the fact that it's a solo acoustic gig.
That's my preference but like it's been stated before, you can't control other people. I just try to tune out and ignore the dummies and enjoy the concert.
that clip is awesome!! thanks for sharing it. i do wonder how that singalong went.
i agree with everything else you said too
At first i didn't pay attention to this video i thought it was the infamous Rick Astley video (you know THAT video :roll: ) but this video is really great thanks bigeye21!
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Mmkay, so the next time you go to the movies, I'll be sure to yell shit the whole movie, since I paid just as much as you did. And we'll see how much fun you have.
We are talking about a concert by a rock artist. Not a quiet movie where everyone is silent. Lets keep in mind, not everyone at these shows are 10 Club members. How are the general public supposed to know about these pretentious "rules"?
And again go back to my previous comment when I mentioned that if it weren't for people yelling things out, Ed would have never told the Ledbetter story at Newark. He didn't seem to mind then. Should we not cheer after songs either?
I hate this thread. It makes me ashamed and embarrassed to be a fan. If I sent this to a someone who is not a fan they would probably hate all of us.
THAt is the only time such shit annoys me. as i said, overall...i don't give a shit what anyone does......UNTIL it infringes on the show.....that we ALL paid to see/hear. and people may say is a primadonna, whatever...i don't give a shit.....but if it bugs him, and thus interferes/hinders his perfromance...possibly affected how the performance goes down.....THAT pisses me off. anything else that goes down at shows.....couldn't care less......
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
christ it's a PEARL JAM MESSAGE BOARD....what do you EXPECT here? seriously?
i will say one thing that made me 'embarassed' to be a fan, at least one particular night being in one particular audience. NYC night 2, some guy yelling out some very lewd comment to the female singer that evening, sorry can't remember her name. THAT was classless. and sure, it is no reflection on ME as an individual....but as a 'collective'...as a fan base...as a new yorker.....it was embarassing. what shit people say here......TYPE here....in discussing shows, attitudes, whatever.....we're all pj nutters, so i expect some off the wall shit. :P just sayin'.......
bottomline, crazed fan or not...if you are at a mellow/chill acoustic show.....sitting in your seats no less.....it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out it's a different atmosphere than a full-out rock concert, and that yea.....a little decorum/respect is cool. really tho, whatthefuckever eh?
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
The general public should know about these rules because I hope at some point in their lives they were taught manners. And how to respect someone else when they're talking. Yes, sometimes fun stories come out of what is shouted out (Eddie told some story about some guy or whatever during DC 2 after a comment), but when the poor guy is trying to talk and everyone is screaming "I love you!", "Play Alive!!", "YOU'RE THE MANNNNNNNN", etc etc, so much that is seems like Eddie is a monkey on stage and everyone is screaming at him to dance, it's a little out of hand.
I went to both DC shows last year, and it got to the point where everyone was yelling over top of each other and Eddie just stopped talking and strummed his guitar because it was too much. I'm not talking one call out every once and awhile; the whole damn show was people shouting stuff literally one after another between every song. Eddie said something a couple of times, and you can tell he was annoyed. That should NOT be allowed, it shouldn't be "ok" or accepted.
I'm just very opinionated. I like that I am free to agree and argue on these boards. Even more so now that we are paying to use them.
pretentious?
yes he is a rock star.but..
its an acoustic show. not a rock concert
what if eddie did a poetry reading..or held a seminar on awesomeness
ooo its a rock star..lets yell the whole time
your points suck..stop
I hate that this turned into a huge argument. We obviously don't all agree on this issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkqezCDxTZE
LOL poetry reading! I bet people would still yell and get smashed to hear Ed read poetry.
Wait, are the boards seriously restricted to 10c members now? I never knew...
i promise i will ask in a more civilized manner............during the poetry reading.
well said man, well said
Yeah when they launched the new site the boards became member only.
has it, really?
it's a discussion...and quite honestly, seems pretty civilized, overall, to me. people are expressing their experiences, and their personal opinions......of course we're not all going to agree on this, or most, issues. such is life.......:)
*takes a bottle down and passes it around*
lifes' too short to be bitter.....
btw - no one has ruined a show for me, ever....i don't allow anything to interfere with MY personal enjoyment. however, sure...i've shared my opinions overall....
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I think there is a balance. I wouldn't want to be in audience that was all buttoned up like it was going to the symphony but I would also want them to be a little more restrained than they are at a typical Pearl Jam show given the intimacy of the venue and the fact that it's a solo acoustic gig.
That's my preference but like it's been stated before, you can't control other people. I just try to tune out and ignore the dummies and enjoy the concert.
if it's a doob....you can simply pass it my way....if it's your ciggie, well still no biggie.....b/c i will then proceed to put your cig out on your forehead.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I should have been more specific. I obviously do not expect venues to stop selling beer. I just wish people knew their limits, and respected them, and others around them. We're all there for the same purpose: To enjoy the act on stage.
You ask what gives us the right to dictate how others behave? I ask, what gives others the right to be so selfish in their actions that they legitimately fuck up the experience for others??
What about if you're not so tall and there is this huge ass person right in front of you and not only he's huge but he's also rude and not willing to realize the fact that he's completely blocking your view and you can't see even a tiny bit of the stage for one lousy second? What about then? I know Vedder solo shows are sit-down events, I know that. But believe me there are some people out there who do not understand that for some reason.
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to remain seated for such a song would be considered bad manners in my book.
it's just not happening, no matter what the circumstances.
i quite cigs 7 years ago..filthy habit(hear that Ed?
so jus da ganga mon..every ting be irie..cept fo da cig in da forehead mon..ya little bumbaclot!
The guy in front of me stood up in front of me at a Ben Harper show. He was the only person standing in the entire venue...it was mainly an acoustic set, and Ben had "suggested" that it would be cool if people sat. I could not see a thing without leaning WAY over to the side. I asked the guy if he could sit, and he had basically the same attitude that a lot of people have here. It's my right, this is a concert, blah blah...thanks asshole.
This isn't a fight for your personal freedom, I just think people should take the general atmosphere into account. Hmmm, a show in a theatre, Ed is seated himself playing solo and acoustic, everyone else appears to be sitting....fuck it, i'm going to act like it's a bar show with a full band cause i'm just too big a fan to sit and listen.
Please do not ruin the Philly show. Yeah and don't ask to hear Red Mosquito and songs like that.
On the funny side though, someone at San Diego 1 asked to hear Jesse's Girl and he started playing the first 5 seconds then stopped and made a pretty funny comment.
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
i remember a pair of girls getting yelled at for standing up during porch
even if it wasnt you i really wanted to stand up for porch but no one moved.i didnt wanna ruin it for anyone
i went nuts in my chair..i was hovering half sitting..guess im a weenie but i can sit in my seat if thats how the crowd is
that clip is awesome!! thanks for sharing it. i do wonder how that singalong went.
i agree with everything else you said too
At first i didn't pay attention to this video i thought it was the infamous Rick Astley video (you know THAT video :roll: ) but this video is really great thanks bigeye21!
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