Introducing your 2009 Chicago Cubs!!!!!

mca47

pureoc wrote:

chicagocubsfan14 wrote:

Just watched Lou's press conference. You can tell that he has had enough of this guy, I remember hearing that Lou never wanted him in the first place. BBTN said it best: There is a reason that he has been on 7 teams in 10 years.

Maybe he didn't but we will know for sure if Lou mans up and benches his bitch ass tomorrow. Personally I think Lou is too much of a pussy to bench him. I base this on the fact that he still has that peice of shit Soriano batting leadoff or playing at all for that matter. Fox and HP should be starting everyday!!! Nice win today, but get the crap (Bradley and Soriano) out of our lineup.

I'll bet a lot of money Bradley starts.

Too bad they aren't playing in Wrigley, because they'd give Bradley and earful!!!

mca47

From the Trib today...
:shock:
The guy is a NUT!!!

Milton Bradley uncomfortable with his fit on Chicago Cubs
Before latest incident, he was looking for clubhouse camaraderie.

Before throwing his helmet and the sports drink cooler, before getting into a heated exchange with manager Lou Piniella and before being sent home in the sixth inning, Milton Bradley spoke candidly of his feeling of isolation in the Cubs clubhouse.

"This isn't me," Bradley told the Tribune before his confrontation with Piniella. "I've always excelled at playing baseball, and to come here and suck like I have, it's just not a good feeling. And there's really not one guy who I can sit and talk to. I've been on teams where I have guys I know, or somebody I can just vent to."

Derrek Lee has a locker next to Bradley and they speak frequently. So why not vent to Lee?

"We just don't have that bond," he replied. "'D-Lee' is cool. He's quiet. But things change. I had a good rapport with [fired hitting coach Gerald Perry]. I trusted Gerald and I could talk to him, and he's gone. I think I clicked with [ex-Cub outfielder Joey] Gathright, and he's gone. So you just kind of feel like you're on an island, and trying to stay afloat."
Bradley said the Cubs are a "good group of guys," but he hasn't formed any real relationships yet.

"The teammates, they're there and they say all the right things," he said. "But it's just [small talk]."

Lee said the Cubs players have no issues with Bradley.

"When we're in the clubhouse, everyone gets along with Milton," Lee said. "I don't think there's a guy in here who says he doesn't get along with Milton. Guys get frustrated. We see it all the time."

Carlos Zambrano was so concerned about Bradley he followed him into the clubhouse after the incident with Piniella to see if Bradley was OK. Zambrano declined to discuss Bradley, though Alfonso Soriano pulled no punches.

"I have no problem with him," Soriano said. "I think he's a great guy. The only problem with him is his [combative] attitude sometimes in the game. A lot of people don't like that, but that's him."

Soriano said if Bradley "is not 100 percent to help the team, we don't need him."

Bradley blamed himself for his poor start (.237 batting average), and conceded he didn't realize how "overwhelming" it would be to be a focus of attention on the North Side.

"People are always watching and looking at everything I'm doing," he said. "My personality is more of a guy [who likes to] go unnoticed -- to show up, do my job and go home, and really not have a whole lot of hoopla about it.

"I'm really not a guy who's seeking any attention. I'm not seeking to be noted, like 'Milton Bradley and the Chicago Cubs.' I don't want that. I just want to be part of a group and fit in and just love and be loved. That's the basis of what I am.

"Maybe years ago I might have thought I wanted all this, but I really don't want all the attention."

But it's too late to turn back now. Bradley is signed for the next 2 1/2 years, and he's virtually untradeable. He desperately wanted to start off on the right foot with Cubs fans, but felt blindsided when a published report before the home opener questioned whether or not Cubs fans would boo him.
"If fans went and blamed me because of how I was performing, then the thought was already in their heads [from the story] that they were to boo before I even played," he said. "My play hasn't helped my situation, and it's unfortunate."

Every mistake Bradley makes has been dissected and magnified, putting more pressure on him to succeed. He called it a "draining" experience, and he's beating himself up over his struggles.

"When you walk around, when you look in people's eyes, you don't feel worthy," he said. "That's what I see."

104 years and counting

And after all this, LOU apologizes?!? He should not be sorry for yelling at an underachieving, overpaid crybaby.

ledvedderman

Former Cub (who they never should have traded) Mark DeRosa is traded to St. Louis for RHP Chris Perez. As a Cards fan...I love this deal. DeRosa is a LaRussa type player that will really mesh well.

FearTheBeard

THE CUBS ARE USELESS!! STOP WASTING YOUR TIME WITH USELESS POSTS!!!!!

pureoc

ledvedderman wrote:

Former Cub (who they never should have traded) Mark DeRosa is traded to St. Louis for RHP Chris Perez. As a Cards fan...I love this deal. DeRosa is a LaRussa type player that will really mesh well.

Yeah, CLEV can go fuck itself. What AL team has fucked over the cubs more than them. They hand CC to MIL for nothing last year, and now get D Ro for nothing for STL. There's a good reason why the city of cleveland (the shithole that it is) hasn't won a championship in 50 years, and making deals for nothing (like this one for D Ro) is a good reason. F&*% Cleveland!!!!

mca47

ledvedderman wrote:

Former Cub (who they never should have traded) Mark DeRosa is traded to St. Louis for RHP Chris Perez. As a Cards fan...I love this deal. DeRosa is a LaRussa type player that will really mesh well.

At first I was pissed off hearing about this...
Then I heard the Cards got him!

ledvedderman

pureoc wrote:

ledvedderman wrote:

Former Cub (who they never should have traded) Mark DeRosa is traded to St. Louis for RHP Chris Perez. As a Cards fan...I love this deal. DeRosa is a LaRussa type player that will really mesh well.

Yeah, CLEV can go fuck itself. What AL team has fucked over the cubs more than them. They hand CC to MIL for nothing last year, and now get D Ro for nothing for STL. They should have flat out raped STL for all they could to give D Ro up. I will boo his ass so bad next fri. when I go to the cubs cards game. There's a good reason why the city of cleveland (the shithole that it is) hasn't won a championship in 50 years, and making deals for nothing (like this one for D Ro) is a good reason. F&*% Cleveland!!!!

So you're going to boo a guy that was the glue that kept the team together last year? Without DeRosa, the Cubs would not have won the division. So why boo him? Oh yeah, you're a Cubs fan. Everything gets thrown out the window when the guy gets traded

patrickredeyes

Great win by the Soxs and great win by the Crew last nite.

104 years and counting

patrickredeyes wrote:

Great win by the Soxs and great win by the Crew last nite.

Big series next weekend.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

this team has the word 'COLLAPSE" written all over it.................

I am a wise man....

hehehehehehehehehe..............

SPEEDY MCCREADY

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

Milton Bradley is a BUM!!!!!

I am a wise man.............

mca47

...Another interesting article from the Trib!

Perfect time for Cubs to waive bye-bye to Carlos Zambrano
Phil Rogers | On Baseball
June 29, 2009

As Lou Piniella was saying on Friday, enough's enough.

Get Carlos Zambrano out of here, even if the Cubs have to give him away. He's not the guy you want as the ace of a curse-busting team, and at this point, it's wishful thinking that he'll ever mature into that guy.

Proving that I did not attend Kellogg, Wharton or even the Acme School of Business, I offer this proposition for Jim Hendry: First thing Monday morning, put Zambrano on waivers. If anyone claims him and the $62.75 million left on his contract, which runs through 2012, immediately trade him for whatever is being offered, from a bag of balls to a 32-year-old minor-leaguer.

Because Hendry gave Zambrano a full no-trade clause in a 2007 contract extension, Zambrano can choose: Either go where he's being dealt, waving goodbye to Wrigley Field, or block the trade and deal with the knowledge that you're playing for a team that believes it can live without you.

What a show Zambrano put on Sunday at U.S. Cellular Field.

Given the Cubs' sorry display of the previous two days, when Piniella called Milton Bradley "a piece of [bleep]" and then got upset that the confidentiality of the clubhouse had been breached, allegedly by an unknown White Sox employee, the setting called for professionalism.

Unfortunately for the North Side drama queens, their ace once again reported for work wearing size 30 shoes and a red rubber ball on his nose. Zambrano pitched badly and lost his cool for about the zillionth time, venting his frustrations on Sox hitters en route to a 6-0 loss.

Zambrano clearly drilled Dewayne Wise in the butt on the first pitch after he had sniffed out a suicide squeeze attempt but threw wildly past Geovany Soto, allowing rookie Chris Getz to steal home. Home plate umpire Brian Runge should have ejected Zambrano, as it looked to me like the second time he had intentionally drilled a Sox hitter.

He also ricocheted a pitch off Scott Podsednik's rear end in the third inning. The motivation here wasn't nearly as clear, but Sox players believe he was angry about either Podsednik's four-hit game Saturday or, more likely, his unorthodox dance toward the front of the batter's box during a pitcher's delivery.

Sox manager Ozzie Guillen played Zambrano like a Stradivarius after Podsednik was hit.

He let Zambrano throw repeatedly to first, holding Podsednik close, and never gave him the steal sign. He hoped a distracted Zambrano would hang a pitch to Alexei Ramirez or Jermaine Dye, and that's exactly what Zambrano did, with Ramirez drilling a two-run homer on a 1-2 pitch.

Zambrano then unraveled like, well, like he often does.

The sequence that allowed the Sox to add on to a 3-0 lead in the sixth was classic. Zambrano's instincts were good enough to anticipate a suicide squeeze with Getz on third and Wise, the No. 9 hitter , batting. He just couldn't execute. Soto had no chance to catch a fastball that sailed over the right-handed batter's box. Fuming, Zambrano hit Wise with the next pitch.

"It was a cutter that cut too much," he claimed later.

He offered an even stronger defense when asked if Podsednik was also hit with a cut fastball. "Yeah, cutter," said Zambrano, who allowed five runs in 5 1/3 innings. "The ball cut a lot. I don't want to put Podsednik on base. I'm not crazy. Nobody wants to have Podsednik on base."

Zambrano had warmed up for the predictably high-energy start with a war of words with Sox pitching coach Don Cooper, who had been critical of Zambrano's on-field meltdown on May 27. He tried to make a joke of Cooper's 1-6 big-league record and bragged about his no-hitter.

Then, as usual, he went out and did not deliver.

There are many reasons that a Cubs' team with more than $140 million invested in payroll is in fourth place in the National League Central, and one of them is a front-runner, not a difference-maker.

The Cubs are 0-5 in Zambrano's starts in the playoffs, being outscored 31-15. We'll dismiss the 2003 NL Championship Series as old news and blame Piniella for lifting him when he was in a 1-1 game against Brandon Webb in the 2007 playoff opener, but his pitching had as much to do with the ugly Game 2 loss to Los Angeles last year as did the four infield errors.

Hendry had a chance to let Zambrano walk as a free agent after 2007, the season in which he beat up catcher Michael Barrett during a game at Wrigley, but injuries to Mark Prior and Kerry Wood gave Zambrano a hammer.

Too bad the one he now swings makes funny noises, like the one Moe favored when whacking Larry and Curly.

104 years and counting

Release Zambrano?? Come on, thats nonsense

mca47

chicagocubsfan14 wrote:

Release Zambrano?? Come on, thats nonsense

I don't necessarily agree with it, I just found it to be an interesting article.

One thing I do side with the author is Z's inability to ever do well in a big game, and it taking soooo little to get him off "his game".

Def. one of the best pitchers in the game, but also def. not a "gamer".

pureoc

mca47 wrote:

chicagocubsfan14 wrote:

Release Zambrano?? Come on, thats nonsense

I don't necessarily agree with it, I just found it to be an interesting article.

One thing I do side with the author is Z's inability to ever do well in a big game, and it taking soooo little to get him off "his game".

Def. one of the best pitchers in the game, but also def. not a "gamer".

I agree with the "big game" comment, however, it's impossible for me to want this team to release a guy who I witnessed throw a no hitter.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

chicagocubsfan14 wrote:

Release Zambrano?? Come on, thats nonsense

I would trade Zambrano in an instant...

He has 8 years in the majors...he has never won 20 games in a season.....he is a headcase....he has had minor arm problems(minor usually turns to major)....The Cubs would/could get some QUALITY players if you traded Zambrano....

What have the Cubs done in the 8 years Zambrano has been with the team???

Thats right...

Not a damn thing..........

TRADE HIM!!!!

He is the only player on the Cubs that can actually be traded.....

NOBODY would take Fukudumbass and his contract....
NOBODY would take Sorryano and his contract.....
NOBODY would take Derrick Lee and his contract.................
NOBODY would take Dempster and his contract..................
NOBODY would take Milton Bradley and his contract..................


The CUBS need to win NOW or they are going to be FUCKED for the next 3-5 years.....

ledvedderman

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

chicagocubsfan14 wrote:

Release Zambrano?? Come on, thats nonsense

I would trade Zambrano in an instant...

He has 8 years in the majors...he has never won 20 games in a season.....he is a headcase....he has had minor arm problems(minor usually turns to major)....The Cubs would/could get some QUALITY players if you traded Zambrano....

What have the Cubs done in the 8 years Zambrano has been with the team???

Thats right...

Not a damn thing..........

TRADE HIM!!!!

He is the only player on the Cubs that can actually be traded.....

NOBODY would take Fukudumbass and his contract....
NOBODY would take Sorryano and his contract.....
NOBODY would take Derrick Lee and his contract.................
NOBODY would take Dempster and his contract..................
NOBODY would take Milton Bradley and his contract..................


The CUBS need to win NOW or they are going to be FUCKED for the next 3-5 years.....

You're absolutely right Speedy. If anyone is to blame (besides the players), it is Jim Hendry. These contracts are so backloaded in pay that he has backed the Cubs into a corner where they are basically stuck with these guys for quite some time. No one is going to take any of these guys.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

ledvedderman wrote:

SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:

chicagocubsfan14 wrote:

Release Zambrano?? Come on, thats nonsense

I would trade Zambrano in an instant...

He has 8 years in the majors...he has never won 20 games in a season.....he is a headcase....he has had minor arm problems(minor usually turns to major)....The Cubs would/could get some QUALITY players if you traded Zambrano....

What have the Cubs done in the 8 years Zambrano has been with the team???

Thats right...

Not a damn thing..........

TRADE HIM!!!!

He is the only player on the Cubs that can actually be traded.....

NOBODY would take Fukudumbass and his contract....
NOBODY would take Sorryano and his contract.....
NOBODY would take Derrick Lee and his contract.................
NOBODY would take Dempster and his contract..................
NOBODY would take Milton Bradley and his contract..................


The CUBS need to win NOW or they are going to be FUCKED for the next 3-5 years.....

You're absolutely right Speedy. If anyone is to blame (besides the players), it is Jim Hendry. These contracts are so backloaded in pay that he has backed the Cubs into a corner where they are basically stuck with these guys for quite some time. No one is going to take any of these guys.

Had Hendry not signed Dempster ...the fans would have been pissed...
Hendry signing Milton Bradley was just PLAIN STUPID!!!!!
Hendry outbidded everyone for SORRYANO...by $40 million ...that was just PLAIN STUPID!!!!!!

But right now im more pissed off at Pinella....

Sorryano should be batting 6th-7th......END OF STORY!!!!!
Milton Bradley should be on the bench...END OF STORY!!!!
Dempster should be given the closer role.....with Marshall being the 5th starter......with Kevin Gregg selling cotton candy in the bleachers.....END OF STORY!!!!!

ledvedderman

I'm not even sure Sorriano should be batting at all. I think his offensive numbers are so bad he should be riding the pine. What are you getting out of playing him? Defense? Not at all. He's got a decent arm at times, but everytime he does that stupid hop I want him to fall down and hurt himself until he learns how to catch a fly ball properly.

I'm a Cards fan, but I hate seeing teams backed into this type of situation by stupid front office moves. I bitch a lot about the Cardinals ownership not spending money when they have it...but I would rather be in our situation than the Cubs are in.