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  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Didn't get to the island... But it was a boat...

    He wasn't technically "ON" the island...but he was in the island's ... radius... thingy...
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Solat13 wrote:
    ANother question...

    Why, if it was so important that The O6 get back...didn't The Island require Walt to return?

    We don't know why either way if it's important for Walt to get back at some point - plus we still have the rest of the season and next season to find out.

    I have a feeling we're going to find out a lot next week when we see Locke off the island and who he visits the O6. I could be wrong but didn't Walt visit Hurley in the mental institution and say that Locke visited him. So maybe we'll see what Locke said to him too.

    yeah he is on the show next week

    Cool. Always good to see Tall Walt. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    ANother question...

    Why, if it was so important that The O6 get back...didn't The Island require Walt to return?

    We don't know why either way if it's important for Walt to get back at some point - plus we still have the rest of the season and next season to find out.

    I have a feeling we're going to find out a lot next week when we see Locke off the island and who he visits the O6. I could be wrong but didn't Walt visit Hurley in the mental institution and say that Locke visited him. So maybe we'll see what Locke said to him too.

    yeah he is on the show next week

    SHHHHHHHHHHH...you're not supposed to say that. People get testy about spoilers.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • :shock: :?

    oops...
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  • Solat13 wrote:
    I must disagree with the last few posters. I have found this season so far to be off the charts good. Season 1 good.

    Lots of answers (The Rousseau epi was great)
    Really great lines
    New Mysteries

    and after next weeks episode (they do need to fill in that hole), we can get down and dirty and see who really is who and what side everyone is on.

    I agree ... I think this season has been as good as much of season 1 and 2 and the final 5 or 6 episodes of season 3.

    I haven't been this excited for the episodes in a long time. I spent over an hour last night talking to a West Coast friend about the episode because we were both excited about how good it was and where its going next.

    Agreed. This season has been incredible. Definitely more 'geeky', but in a good way. Definitely not your standard, mindless television show.
    24 years old, mid-life crisis
    nowadays hits you when you're young
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    I must disagree with the last few posters. I have found this season so far to be off the charts good. Season 1 good.

    Lots of answers (The Rousseau epi was great)
    Really great lines
    New Mysteries

    and after next weeks episode (they do need to fill in that hole), we can get down and dirty and see who really is who and what side everyone is on.

    I agree ... I think this season has been as good as much of season 1 and 2 and the final 5 or 6 episodes of season 3.

    I haven't been this excited for the episodes in a long time. I spent over an hour last night talking to a West Coast friend about the episode because we were both excited about how good it was and where its going next.

    Agreed. This season has been incredible. Definitely more 'geeky', but in a good way. Definitely not your standard, mindless television show.
    Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper


  • Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.

    You Woman of Science
    Me Man of Faith
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  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903

    Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.

    You Woman of Science
    Me Man of Faith
    :lol:
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969

    Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.

    You Woman of Science
    Me Man of Faith

    If we can't live together...we're going to die confused.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    I think a lot will be answered next week with the Locke episode, and then they will probably have ones with Kate, Sayid, Sun, and Hurley explaining why each decided to go back.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...

  • Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.

    You Woman of Science
    Me Man of Faith

    If we can't live together...we're going to die confused.

    That is the funniest thing I have read today :lol:
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  • ANother question...

    Why, if it was so important that The O6 get back...didn't The Island require Walt to return?



    Maybe I'm completely off here, but this just popped in my head:

    Ben moved the island (through space and time) to prevent Widmore from finding it, right? When he did that, I think the 06 were still there, in the vicinity at least.

    To get the island back to the present time and stop the jumping (and making brain mush out of people), maybe everything has to be the way it was, including the 06 being on the island (or the vicinity). Walt wasn't there when it started time shifting, so he's not needed.

    I have no idea though...just guessing.
    24 years old, mid-life crisis
    nowadays hits you when you're young
  • Who PrincessWho Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305

    Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.

    You Woman of Science
    Me Man of Faith
    Don't you wish she'd believed you?
    "The stars are all connected to the brain."
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969

    Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.

    You Woman of Science
    Me Man of Faith
    Don't you wish she'd believed you?

    This is the funniest thing I've read today!!
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13 wrote:

    I agree ... I think this season has been as good as much of season 1 and 2 and the final 5 or 6 episodes of season 3.

    I haven't been this excited for the episodes in a long time. I spent over an hour last night talking to a West Coast friend about the episode because we were both excited about how good it was and where its going next.

    Agreed. This season has been incredible. Definitely more 'geeky', but in a good way. Definitely not your standard, mindless television show.
    Which is EXACTLY why I like it!!! But, as I've said before...it's getting ridiculous!!! And I'm seriously annoyed with the inconsistencies.


    Be patient...I think it'll work out. We were so used to getting answers recently, last night opened up so many more questions and holes. I think it'll work out. Remember the first few seasons, there were way more questions than answers. It gets frustrating, but have faith. (as Locke would say. :D )
    24 years old, mid-life crisis
    nowadays hits you when you're young
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Solat13 wrote:
    And it REALLY don't make any sense to me...that if The Island is so damn picky about having everything and everyone back the way It wants it...why would it not demand Desmond back? Yeah yeah...Des has unfinished business...I get that. But The Island clearly requires CERTAIN people to be there...and he was one of them.

    Desmond came by boat so his way back to the island would be different than theirs - at least that's what I think.

    My only real question last night was why Ben was on the plane because he wasn't with them originally and might have made things "unpredictable" to quote Hawkins said.

    Since John was replacing Jack's father, can't Ben be replacing John as the impaired person on the plane?

    What if Ben replaces Sawyer on the plane? Who's a bigger con man than Ben?
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    ANother question...

    Why, if it was so important that The O6 get back...didn't The Island require Walt to return?



    Maybe I'm completely off here, but this just popped in my head:

    Ben moved the island (through space and time) to prevent Widmore from finding it, right? When he did that, I think the 06 were still there, in the vicinity at least.

    To get the island back to the present time and stop the jumping (and making brain mush out of people), maybe everything has to be the way it was, including the 06 being on the island (or the vicinity). Walt wasn't there when it started time shifting, so he's not needed.

    I have no idea though...just guessing.

    But then Desmond would need to be back, too.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    What if Ben replaces Sawyer on the plane? Who's a bigger con man than Ben?

    I don't think they need to replace people that are already there.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    I must disagree with the last few posters. I have found this season so far to be off the charts good. Season 1 good.

    Lots of answers (The Rousseau epi was great)
    Really great lines
    New Mysteries

    and after next weeks episode (they do need to fill in that hole), we can get down and dirty and see who really is who and what side everyone is on.

    What answers have we gotten?
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Be patient...I think it'll work out. We were so used to getting answers recently, last night opened up so many more questions and holes. I think it'll work out. Remember the first few seasons, there were way more questions than answers. It gets frustrating, but have faith. (as Locke would say. :D )

    Yes, but back then it was still follow-able.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • ANother question...

    Why, if it was so important that The O6 get back...didn't The Island require Walt to return?



    Maybe I'm completely off here, but this just popped in my head:

    Ben moved the island (through space and time) to prevent Widmore from finding it, right? When he did that, I think the 06 were still there, in the vicinity at least.

    To get the island back to the present time and stop the jumping (and making brain mush out of people), maybe everything has to be the way it was, including the 06 being on the island (or the vicinity). Walt wasn't there when it started time shifting, so he's not needed.

    I have no idea though...just guessing.

    But then Desmond would need to be back, too.


    Yeah...I think he's being manipulated into go back too.
    24 years old, mid-life crisis
    nowadays hits you when you're young
  • i wonder what part the guy who wished Jack condolences after getting his plane ticket will be.
    "I'm not present, I'm a drug that makes you dream"
  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    rrivers wrote:
    I must disagree with the last few posters. I have found this season so far to be off the charts good. Season 1 good.

    Lots of answers (The Rousseau epi was great)
    Really great lines
    New Mysteries

    and after next weeks episode (they do need to fill in that hole), we can get down and dirty and see who really is who and what side everyone is on.

    What answers have we gotten?

    Why Christian was wearing white tennis shoes. ;)
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Yeah...I think he's being manipulated into go back too.

    If that was the case, wouldn't they have tried a bit harder at the church...and wouldn't have let him leave so easily?
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    rrivers wrote:
    I must disagree with the last few posters. I have found this season so far to be off the charts good. Season 1 good.

    Lots of answers (The Rousseau epi was great)
    Really great lines
    New Mysteries

    and after next weeks episode (they do need to fill in that hole), we can get down and dirty and see who really is who and what side everyone is on.

    What answers have we gotten?

    Why Christian was wearing white tennis shoes. ;)

    I just lol'd at that!


    P.S. Remember in the Pilot...they showed a single white tennis shoe? Foreshadowing? Or just plane wreckage?
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Yeah...I think he's being manipulated into go back too.

    If that was the case, wouldn't they have tried a bit harder at the church...and wouldn't have let him leave so easily?

    Maybe that is why Ben went to the Marina. Maybe he kidnapped Penny.
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  • rriversrrivers Posts: 3,698
    And it REALLY don't make any sense to me...that if The Island is so damn picky about having everything and everyone back the way It wants it...why would it not demand Desmond back? Yeah yeah...Des has unfinished business...I get that. But The Island clearly requires CERTAIN people to be there...and he was one of them.

    And Jack having to get something from his father for Locke to have was really lame. If things don't improve that is a moment that could definitely be looked at as a "jump the shark" moment.
    "We're fixed good, lamp-wise."
  • AmentsChickAmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Maybe I just noticed because I was raised a Catholic...but does anyone else find it unusual that Catholicism plays such a HUGE part in this show?

    Des was a monk.
    Charlie was Catholic.
    Eloise in the church.
    Mr. Eko and his stick.
    The Virgin Mary statues.


    I'm sure there were other examples...but that was off the top of my head (along with my halo).
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • pjsteelerfanpjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,903
    Yeah...I think he's being manipulated into go back too.

    If that was the case, wouldn't they have tried a bit harder at the church...and wouldn't have let him leave so easily?

    Maybe that is why Ben went to the Marina. Maybe he kidnapped Penny.

    I think this is what happened, or he tried to , and Desmond got to him. I think desmond will go to the Island after Ben, But I think we are reading to much into Ben being on the plane.
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Be patient...I think it'll work out. We were so used to getting answers recently, last night opened up so many more questions and holes. I think it'll work out. Remember the first few seasons, there were way more questions than answers. It gets frustrating, but have faith. (as Locke would say. :D )

    Yes, but back then it was still follow-able.


    True, true. 3-toed statues and 'Others' were easier to follow than time travel theory. :D

    Actually, the more I think about this, the less complicated it seems.

    Ben moved the island to escape from Widmore, sending it hurtling through time/space.
    The 06, Desmond and the pilot escaped the Island bubble as it disappeared.
    To get the island back to the correct place/time, and save everyone, the above people need to be back on the island to prevent some sort of time paradox.

    The main questions brought up last night were what changed the minds of Hurley/Sayid/Kate, who are the new characters on the plane, what time period did they land in and why is Jin a Dharma dude?
    24 years old, mid-life crisis
    nowadays hits you when you're young
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