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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Black Diamond wrote:
    So do you think

    1. Daniel has been to the island before but because he found his constant, he has no nose bleeds

    or

    2. Never been to island


    1. AND 2.
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Black Diamond wrote:
    So do you think

    1. Daniel has been to the island before but because he found his constant, he has no nose bleeds

    or

    2. Never been to island

    I had a discussion about this with vedhead27 on aim the other day. She doesn't post on here anymore, and we came to the conclusion that Desmond and Daniel have time traveled before but only their subconscious has traveled. The same thing with Minkowski from last season. Daniel and Desmond's constants keep their brains from overloading when traveling though. And Daniel has been to the island before and that's why we saw him with Dr. Chang in the Orchid station in the season opener.

    What's going on now is that the entire person is time traveling and we don't think that Daniel knows how to stop the nose bleeding yet. Because its different for the whole body to time travel as opposed to just the subconscious.

    Hopefully we learn more about this in the next few weeks.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    interesting.. the scene with Dr. Chang in episode 1 does not have to mean he has been to the island before. They could have been giving you a snipet of what this time traveling period could be. IE he is time traveling but pretends to be working for DI to get info.
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  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    So do you think

    1. Daniel has been to the island before but because he found his constant, he has no nose bleeds

    or

    2. Never been to island

    I had a discussion about this with vedhead27 on aim the other day. She doesn't post on here anymore, and we came to the conclusion that Desmond and Daniel have time traveled before but only their subconscious has traveled. The same thing with Minkowski from last season. Daniel and Desmond's constants keep their brains from overloading when traveling though. And Daniel has been to the island before and that's why we saw him with Dr. Chang in the Orchid station in the season opener.

    What's going on now is that the entire person is time traveling and we don't think that Daniel knows how to stop the nose bleeding yet. Because its different for the whole body to time travel as opposed to just the subconscious.

    Hopefully we learn more about this in the next few weeks.

    But Eloise the rat time-traveled subconsciously and yet she still died from the nosebleed/brain hemmorage.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Black Diamond wrote:
    interesting.. the scene with Dr. Chang in episode 1 does not have to mean he has been to the island before. They could have been giving you a snipet of what this time traveling period could be. IE he is time traveling but pretends to be working for DI to get info.

    That is true, but either he would have had to physically time travel back there (which as far as we know he hasn't done that yet), subconsciously jump into the mid of someone who was there, or subconsciously jump into the mind of his younger self who may have been on the island before the Purge.

    I think the 3rd scenario is most likely especially if you go by the assumption that Ellie (the woman with the gun who led him to the bomb) is his mother and Mrs. Hawkins.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    Black Diamond wrote:
    So do you think

    1. Daniel has been to the island before but because he found his constant, he has no nose bleeds

    or

    2. Never been to island

    I had a discussion about this with vedhead27 on aim the other day. She doesn't post on here anymore, and we came to the conclusion that Desmond and Daniel have time traveled before but only their subconscious has traveled. The same thing with Minkowski from last season. Daniel and Desmond's constants keep their brains from overloading when traveling though. And Daniel has been to the island before and that's why we saw him with Dr. Chang in the Orchid station in the season opener.

    What's going on now is that the entire person is time traveling and we don't think that Daniel knows how to stop the nose bleeding yet. Because its different for the whole body to time travel as opposed to just the subconscious.

    Hopefully we learn more about this in the next few weeks.

    But Eloise the rat time-traveled subconsciously and yet she still died from the nosebleed/brain hemmorage.

    True, but we don't know how many trials the rat went through and it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    True, but we don't know how many trials the rat went through and it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.

    One. Daniel told Des that was the first time the rat did the maze.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    True, but we don't know how many trials the rat went through and it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.

    One. Daniel told Des that was the first time the rat did the maze.

    Didn't remember it was the first time ... but you have to think that a human brain is much more sophisticated than a rat's brain. So maybe the time travel overloaded the rat's brain's circuits on the first trial.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    True, but we don't know how many trials the rat went through and it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.

    Uh...I didn't say the rat had a constant. I was simply responding to your theory.
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    Solat13 wrote:
    AmentsChick wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    True, but we don't know how many trials the rat went through and it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.

    One. Daniel told Des that was the first time the rat did the maze.

    Didn't remember it was the first time ... but you have to think that a human brain is much more sophisticated than a rat's brain. So maybe the time travel overloaded the rat's brain's circuits on the first trial.

    HAHAHA. It doesn't matter what I say...you'll argue with me no matter what. :roll:
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,881
    Solat13 wrote:
    it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.
    Her constant could be:

    061205_mangini_vmed_4p.widec.jpg

    or possibly:

    gravano.jpg
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  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Poncier wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.
    Her constant could be:

    061205_mangini_vmed_4p.widec.jpg

    Hahaha! That Mangini pic made my day. Still can't believe he got another job so fast.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    Poncier wrote:
    Solat13 wrote:
    it's probably unlikely for a rat to find a constant.
    Her constant could be:

    061205_mangini_vmed_4p.widec.jpg

    or possibly:

    gravano.jpg

    Isn't it a problem if your Constant is in the witness protection program? Not talking about Sammy the Bull but Mangenius in Cleveland.
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    edited February 2009
    Well, it looks like they will be showing the smoke monster soon, and that Jughead will come into play again like we thought.
    Post edited by pjsteelerfan on
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  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=352078&gt1=28130

    Well, it looks like they will be showing the smoke monster soon, and that Jughead will come into play again like we thought.
    Maybe the Hatch was the containment for Jughead?
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  • Black Diamond
    Black Diamond Posts: 25,109
    tybird wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=352078&gt1=28130

    Well, it looks like they will be showing the smoke monster soon, and that Jughead will come into play again like we thought.
    Maybe the Hatch was the containment for Jughead?

    Yeah but wouldn't their have been an atomic explosion when the hatch was destroyed?

    How about under the 3 toed statue?
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    I'll be curious about the origin of the smoke monster and what it is
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Black Diamond wrote:
    tybird wrote:
    pjsteelerfan wrote:
    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=352078&gt1=28130

    Well, it looks like they will be showing the smoke monster soon, and that Jughead will come into play again like we thought.
    Maybe the Hatch was the containment for Jughead?

    Yeah but wouldn't their have been an atomic explosion when the hatch was destroyed?

    How about under the 3 toed statue?

    Well, if the hatch is the resting place for the Jughead, it might have survived the blast. Sayid said the concrete in one area of the hatch was as thick as the concrete used at Chernobyl when he and Jack were exploring and looking for the power supply to the hatch.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • SPEEDY MCCREADY
    SPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 26,841
    so over the years i have watched a total of maybe 15 seconds of this show.....

    that said....

    do these fuckers ever get off the island????
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • AmentsChick
    AmentsChick Posts: 6,969
    SPEEDY MCCREADY wrote:
    so over the years i have watched a total of maybe 15 seconds of this show.....

    that said....

    do these fuckers ever get off the island????

    Uh.... ... ... seeing as you've only seen 15 seconds of this show... um... yeah...
    This is the greatest band in the world -- Ben Harper

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