***The Official Philadelphia Phillies 2012 Thread***

RW81233

The Fixer wrote:

figures that one of the few times this year I hope for the phils announcers I get stuck with the AZ feed. god damnit, these guys are the worst. at least it's the high def game tonight

If the game turns into a blowout you will take back the idea that these guys suck. Grace is pure gold when it's an 8-0 game in the 7th and he starts looking for booze. I sometimes turn to D-Bag games after the Brew Crew is done.

The Fixer

RW81233 wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

figures that one of the few times this year I hope for the phils announcers I get stuck with the AZ feed. god damnit, these guys are the worst. at least it's the high def game tonight

If the game turns into a blowout you will take back the idea that these guys suck. Grace is pure gold when it's an 8-0 game in the 7th and he starts looking for booze. I sometimes turn to D-Bag games after the Brew Crew is done.

ugh. grace is excruciating. I think AZ has the worst annoucing crew in all of MLB. They are always begging fans to bring signs to games...and what does that CAR thing mean that they say?

I avoid them at all cost

RW81233

Nothing they do makes sense, or has any semblance of professionalism - NOTHING. Two years ago Mark Grace went on a 2-inning diatribe about how much he loved Seth McClung, and I was hooked on how stupid he was.

The Fixer

RW81233 wrote:

Nothing they do makes sense, or has any semblance of professionalism - NOTHING. Two years ago Mark Grace went on a 2-inning diatribe about how much he loved Seth McClung, and I was hooked on how stupid he was.

haha. I guess they're an acquired taste

The Fixer

about time someone hit that cheesedick change up.

victorino is putting together a pretty nice season

The Juggler

The Fixer wrote:

The Juggler wrote:

did they show the harry kalas thing on tv? how was it?

just realized phils feed is on MLB Network. They just showed the statue. Looks pretty awesome.

I still don't understand why the phillies didn't make something like that happen. Kinda weak a fan had to initiate and pay for the project. I'm glad something was done

yeah i agree...but in a way it is sort of fitting that it was the fans who pitched in. for a lot of people harry was their favorite member of the phils for years. looking forward to seeing it

RW81233

holy shit how did zack greinke get that?

Johnny Abruzzo

RW81233 wrote:

holy shit how did zack greinke get that?

Um. I don't know...


Hopefully Chooch is finished with his reproductive duties.

Johnny Abruzzo

Looks like the d-bags have one fucked up LOOGY.

The Fixer

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Looks like the d-bags have one fucked up LOOGY.

should be a funny AB leading off the bottom of the 8th

halladay is incredible. I should have ignored my wife and grabbed that kid when I had the chance

The Fixer

well that certainly sucked. can't believe they only got 2 runs off of that turd pitcher

neilybabes86

Ouch..

Johnny Abruzzo

The Fixer wrote:

well that certainly sucked. can't believe they only got 2 runs off of that turd pitcher

Can't wait for pjhawks to tell us how much Halladay sucks.

The Juggler

neilybabes86 wrote:

Ouch..

you bet the phils didn't you? didn't you?? you sick son of a bitch! :x

RW81233

they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

The Fixer

RW81233 wrote:

they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

The fact that you're in a drinking league is pretty fucking awesome. Almost makes it OK that you're a cowgirls fan

Johnny Abruzzo

The Fixer wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

The fact that you're in a drinking league is pretty fucking awesome. Almost makes it OK that you're a cowgirls fan

It's a drinking league on Skype, you know. :? :P

The Fixer

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

The Fixer wrote:

RW81233 wrote:

they are blowing this series on purpose so the giants can be gone from their radar. on a side note 2nd straight drinking league win and 3rd in 4 weeks this night will not end well. Gonna be 3rd place in the league (12 players) with 3 divisional games left to play.

The fact that you're in a drinking league is pretty fucking awesome. Almost makes it OK that you're a cowgirls fan

It's a drinking league on Skype, you know. :? :P

Still sounds cool.

Schwimmer called up. Looking forward to seeing this kid pitch

Johnny Abruzzo

Since Fixer likes to talk about the Phillies so so records against good teams, I thought everyone would find this interesting:

Thanks to a pitching staff that is even better than expected -- and expectations were high -- the Philadelphia Phillies are in the midst of an all-time great season. The Phils are currently on pace for 105 wins, which would tie them for ninth on the National League single-season wins list.

With a 7 1/2-game lead in the NL East, the Phillies are on cruise control and can start looking ahead to the playoffs. While the Phils' offense is merely average (seventh in the NL in runs), their starting pitching, led by Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels, makes them clear favorites to reach the World Series.

However, when examining the Phils' 2011 resume, there is one aspect of their performance that raises questions about their postseason chances. To succeed in October, it would stand to reason that you need to be able to beat the best. However, much of the Phillies' gaudy record is based upon the fact that they have beaten up on the worst teams.

According to Baseball-Reference.com, the Phillies are 36-11 against teams with a winning percentage below .470. That .766 winning percentage against such clubs is by far the best in baseball. The New York Yankees, at 26-10 (.722), have the next best mark against sub.-470 teams. (I chose .470 as the cutoff because that is the winning percentage of teams that finish the season 10 games under .500.) In fact, if that .766 winning percentage holds, it would be the fourth-best mark against sub-.470 teams of the wild card era, just ahead of the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who set the record for regular season wins before flaming out in the ALCS.

But when playing teams on pace to finish at least 10 games over .500 (.530 winning percentage), the Phillies are just 16-16. That's the sixth-best record in baseball against such clubs, and worse than their NL East rivals the Atlanta Braves. Who fares the best against .530-plus teams? That would be the Boston Red Sox, who are 24-15.

This seems like bad news for the Phillies, because one would think a potential World Series champ would have more success against the league's best. To see if there is any truth to that hypothesis, I went back to see how the last 10 World Series champs fared against the sub-.470 and .530-plus clubs. In theory, the World Series champs should consistently perform well against the good teams, and that would be an indicator of postseason success.

Past 10 World Series Champions
YEAR TEAM Win pct against sub-.470 teams Win pct against .530-plus teams
2010 Giants .714 .426
2009 Yankees .691 .566
2008 Phillies .686 .482
2007 Red Sox .676 .517
2006 Cardinals .557 .440
2005 White Sox .742 .510
2004 Red Sox .698 .567
2003 Marlins .638 .484
2002 Angels .743 .451
2001 D-backs .655 .494

As it turns out, that's not really the case at all. The World Series champs, with the exception of the 2006 Cardinals, have all beat the snot out of the sub-.470 clubs, and even the Cards fared pretty well. The champs' performance against the .530-plus clubs, however, has varied widely. Just last year, the Giants had the best record in baseball against the sub-.470 teams (35-14), but the 15th-best mark (20-27) versus the .530-plus.

It's not surprising that the World Series champs would beat up on the bad teams. The ability to do so consistently, in fact, is typically the sign of a strong team. However, you would expect World Series champs to fare well against good squads during the regular season, and that hasn't happened this century.

In fact, beating up on the weaklings seems to be a better indicator of postseason success. To wit: the 1998 New York Yankees, the team many consider the best in recent history, went 52-12 against sub-.470 teams, which is the best mark of the wild card era.

If recent history is any guide, the Phils' remarkable record against poor squads says more about their title chances than their pedestrian record against good teams. So if you want nit-pick something regarding their World Series hopes, you'll have to look elsewhere.

pjhawks

Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

Since Fixer likes to talk about the Phillies so so records against good teams, I thought everyone would find this interesting:

Thanks to a pitching staff that is even better than expected -- and expectations were high -- the Philadelphia Phillies are in the midst of an all-time great season. The Phils are currently on pace for 105 wins, which would tie them for ninth on the National League single-season wins list.

With a 7 1/2-game lead in the NL East, the Phillies are on cruise control and can start looking ahead to the playoffs. While the Phils' offense is merely average (seventh in the NL in runs), their starting pitching, led by Roy Halladay, Cliff Lee and Cole Hamels, makes them clear favorites to reach the World Series.

However, when examining the Phils' 2011 resume, there is one aspect of their performance that raises questions about their postseason chances. To succeed in October, it would stand to reason that you need to be able to beat the best. However, much of the Phillies' gaudy record is based upon the fact that they have beaten up on the worst teams.

According to Baseball-Reference.com, the Phillies are 36-11 against teams with a winning percentage below .470. That .766 winning percentage against such clubs is by far the best in baseball. The New York Yankees, at 26-10 (.722), have the next best mark against sub.-470 teams. (I chose .470 as the cutoff because that is the winning percentage of teams that finish the season 10 games under .500.) In fact, if that .766 winning percentage holds, it would be the fourth-best mark against sub-.470 teams of the wild card era, just ahead of the 2001 Seattle Mariners, who set the record for regular season wins before flaming out in the ALCS.

But when playing teams on pace to finish at least 10 games over .500 (.530 winning percentage), the Phillies are just 16-16. That's the sixth-best record in baseball against such clubs, and worse than their NL East rivals the Atlanta Braves. Who fares the best against .530-plus teams? That would be the Boston Red Sox, who are 24-15.

This seems like bad news for the Phillies, because one would think a potential World Series champ would have more success against the league's best. To see if there is any truth to that hypothesis, I went back to see how the last 10 World Series champs fared against the sub-.470 and .530-plus clubs. In theory, the World Series champs should consistently perform well against the good teams, and that would be an indicator of postseason success.

Past 10 World Series Champions
YEAR TEAM Win pct against sub-.470 teams Win pct against .530-plus teams
2010 Giants .714 .426
2009 Yankees .691 .566
2008 Phillies .686 .482
2007 Red Sox .676 .517
2006 Cardinals .557 .440
2005 White Sox .742 .510
2004 Red Sox .698 .567
2003 Marlins .638 .484
2002 Angels .743 .451
2001 D-backs .655 .494

As it turns out, that's not really the case at all. The World Series champs, with the exception of the 2006 Cardinals, have all beat the snot out of the sub-.470 clubs, and even the Cards fared pretty well. The champs' performance against the .530-plus clubs, however, has varied widely. Just last year, the Giants had the best record in baseball against the sub-.470 teams (35-14), but the 15th-best mark (20-27) versus the .530-plus.

It's not surprising that the World Series champs would beat up on the bad teams. The ability to do so consistently, in fact, is typically the sign of a strong team. However, you would expect World Series champs to fare well against good squads during the regular season, and that hasn't happened this century.

In fact, beating up on the weaklings seems to be a better indicator of postseason success. To wit: the 1998 New York Yankees, the team many consider the best in recent history, went 52-12 against sub-.470 teams, which is the best mark of the wild card era.

If recent history is any guide, the Phils' remarkable record against poor squads says more about their title chances than their pedestrian record against good teams. So if you want nit-pick something regarding their World Series hopes, you'll have to look elsewhere.

interesting read. still think the playoffs are somewhat of a crap shoot and have more to do with being healthy and hot at the right time.

one stat i'd love to see is has any team every had 3 pitchers in the top 5 in innings pitched win the World Series. I imagine maybe the Braves when they won it but hard to believe anyone else has done it. Hopefully come Semtember Charlie will have some balls to pull Roy and Cliff and not pitch them until their arms fall off.