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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Crazy shit Houston is fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!

    I can't believe they told Pence he was getting traded and then didn't trade him. Oh wait, yes I can. :lol:
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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Yanks could be the 3rd team and would poss get Brown :shock:
    Go Birds!!!!
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Yanks could be the 3rd team and would poss get Brown :shock:

    that doesn't make much sense. unless the yanks are gonna flip him again.

    funny that no one wants brown. he's the new brett wallace
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    The Fixer wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Yanks could be the 3rd team and would poss get Brown :shock:

    that doesn't make much sense. unless the yanks are gonna flip him again.

    funny that no one wants brown. he's the new brett wallace

    Guess he looked good until he actually started playing in the Majors.

    I don't know - I don't think I'd mind just playing Mayberry most of the rest of the season and see how he does, rather than trading Cosart and shit like that. Maybe give Brown about half the starts vs. righties to keep him developing. Brown not only is terrible in RF, he seems to be regressing.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Yanks could be the 3rd team and would poss get Brown :shock:

    that doesn't make much sense. unless the yanks are gonna flip him again.

    funny that no one wants brown. he's the new brett wallace

    Guess he looked good until he actually started playing in the Majors.

    I don't know - I don't think I'd mind just playing Mayberry most of the rest of the season and see how he does, rather than trading Cosart and shit like that. Maybe give Brown about half the starts vs. righties to keep him developing. Brown not only is terrible in RF, he seems to be regressing.

    if they trade brown they should platoon mayberry in LF.

    I think pence being under control through 2013 is huge.

    Cosart has had some arm issues. He's kinda like Jason Knapp was (though cosart is rated better as a prospect).

    I'm all for them going all in for this year and 2012
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    This whole situation is crazy and i LOVE it!!!! But man thats alot to give up but i do want Pence bad.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,977
    Where you seeing yanks?
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Where you seeing yanks?

    I havent seen yanks. If they are in you gotta figure they are going after brown to flip for ubaldo. only way that makes sense
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    The Fixer wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Where you seeing yanks?

    I havent seen yanks. If they are in you gotta figure they are going after brown to flip for ubaldo. only way that makes sense

    Imagine Brown playing RF in giant Coors Field. :o:lol:
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    imalive wrote:
    if you're gonna be the best, you have to beat the best. your 1st round cakewalk over cincy didn't do you any good in the long haul.

    I don't care if we play St. Lucy's School for Special Children as long as we win. The best chance of that is to play the NL Central. Probably the thing that hurt us was that Joe Blanton didn't pitch for 16 days due to the 3-game sweep, but he probably would've sucked in Game 4 in SF anyway.
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    jamminpearls wrote:
    Joel Sherman of the New York Post reports that the Phillies "might be willing to redirect" Domonic Brown to a third team in order to get the Astros the prospects they want for Hunter Pence.
    In other words, the Astros don't think a package of Brown, plus likely pitching prospect Jarred Cosart, is enough for Pence, which is absolutely ludicrous. Sherman, as well as others, are saying that the Astros want pitching in return, and it appears the Phillies are unable to satisfy their demands without a third team getting involved. Stay tuned.

    Pretty much what Stark says. Crazy shit Houston is fucking crazy!!!!!!!!!!

    Now Stark says Braves are out of it and it's just the Phillies. Astros want to spin Brown for a couple prospects.

    We are going to give up the farm.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,332
    The Fixer wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    No matter who ends up with Pence, it seems like the Astros are going to get the better of this deal. What's out there is just way too fucking much for this guy.

    I'm starting to sway this way big time. I feel like Quentin or Upton could be acquired for less.

    kenny williams hasn't really said if quentin is available or not. the chisox are a game under 500 and only 3 out of first. fucking terrible

    And thats the thing - Williams is an idiot. Like its been said, if the Phils are the only ones left going hard after Pence then start negotiating with Tampa and Chicago and tell Houston to go screw if they don't like the original package plus Worley, sans Brown. Remember - Brown is the same dude they didn't give up for fucking Halladay. So my point is for this team to not go so crazy over Pence when theres other decent options out there. But, on that note, if this team plans to win in the playoffs they HAVE to do something, anything.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    But, on that note, if this team plans to win in the playoffs they HAVE to do something, anything.

    That's the bottom line, isn't it? Yup. And if this team doesn't win in the playoffs, this whole season is a waste.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,332
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    But, on that note, if this team plans to win in the playoffs they HAVE to do something, anything.

    That's the bottom line, isn't it? Yup. And if this team doesn't win in the playoffs, this whole season is a waste.

    Correct, but I don't think that's a good enough reason for Houston to be holding us hostage over Hunter friggin Pence. There's other options. I just hope ol' Rube doesn't become desperate to make this his one move.
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    But, on that note, if this team plans to win in the playoffs they HAVE to do something, anything.

    That's the bottom line, isn't it? Yup. And if this team doesn't win in the playoffs, this whole season is a waste.

    Correct, but I don't think that's a good enough reason for Houston to be holding us hostage over Hunter friggin Pence. There's other options. I just hope ol' Rube doesn't become desperate to make this his one move.

    Right. We really just need an above-average right-handed batting OF. Hunter Pence isn't the only one out there.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,332
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    That's the bottom line, isn't it? Yup. And if this team doesn't win in the playoffs, this whole season is a waste.

    Correct, but I don't think that's a good enough reason for Houston to be holding us hostage over Hunter friggin Pence. There's other options. I just hope ol' Rube doesn't become desperate to make this his one move.

    Right. We really just need an above-average right-handed batting OF. Hunter Pence isn't the only one out there.

    What we need is anything other than Ibanez and Brown in the lineup together. And youre right, Pence isn't worth some ridiculous ransom. They just better do something.
  • eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 42,593
    everybody hits, woo-hoo! :D
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,332
    Looks like this Pence deal's happening. Hopefully they're not raping us.

    Crazy way to start the weekend between this and the Birds. Hopefully this goofy ballplayer is in uniform for my Sunday.
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Jearlpam0925 wrote:
    Looks like this Pence deal's happening. Hopefully they're not raping us.

    Crazy way to start the weekend between this and the Birds. Hopefully this goofy ballplayer is in uniform for my Sunday.
    Hearing this as well,but now the Braves might be making another push. Just came over about 4 mins ago.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,771
    The Fixer wrote:

    kenny williams hasn't really said if quentin is available or not. the chisox are a game under 500 and only 3 out of first. fucking terrible
    the chisox gave up on the season in 1997(?) when they were 3.5 out of first and shipped us roberto hernandez, danny darwin and someone else.
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Rosenthal just tweeted Pence deal will be done by tonight. :D
    Go Birds!!!!
  • jamminpearlsjamminpearls Posts: 7,078
    Cosart Singelton and 2 non top prospects are going for Pence.
    Go Birds!!!!
  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    7:49pm: The Phillies are close to acquiring Pence, tweets Rosenthal.  He says a deal is expected to be completed tonight.  Jon Paul Morosi tweets that first baseman Jonathan Singleton and righty Jarred Cosart are in the deal.  Rosenthal says the Astros will also get two players to be named later in the deal, and they are not major prospects.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,771
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    7:49pm: The Phillies are close to acquiring Pence, tweets Rosenthal.  He says a deal is expected to be completed tonight.  Jon Paul Morosi tweets that first baseman Jonathan Singleton and righty Jarred Cosart are in the deal.  Rosenthal says the Astros will also get two players to be named later in the deal, and they are not major prospects.
    well, thank god. now you guys can go back to the ryan howard debate ;):lol:
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  • Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,028
    imalive wrote:
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:
    7:49pm: The Phillies are close to acquiring Pence, tweets Rosenthal.  He says a deal is expected to be completed tonight.  Jon Paul Morosi tweets that first baseman Jonathan Singleton and righty Jarred Cosart are in the deal.  Rosenthal says the Astros will also get two players to be named later in the deal, and they are not major prospects.
    well, thank god. now you guys can go back to the ryan howard debate ;):lol:

    Yeah I was gonna say something like that. :lol:

    Sounds like a good deal esp with Giants giving up a big prospect for a 2 month rental.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    My head is about to explode. I go shopping for baby furniture and shit explodes. My phone was going crazy while we were looking at cribs. I couldn't stop texting. My wife took my phone from me like I was 10 years old :D
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,771
    Johnny Abruzzo wrote:

    Sounds like a good deal esp with Giants giving up a big prospect for a 2 month rental.
    a prospect is just a prospect until they do something. my gut tells me we will not regret giving up wheeler. pitchers who bloom and stick are a rare breed. could be wrong, I'm just thinking not. Giants have had plenty of pitching prospects who never did shit.
    The Fixer wrote:
    My head is about to explode. I go shopping for baby furniture and shit explodes. My phone was going crazy while we were looking at cribs. I couldn't stop texting. My wife took my phone from me like I was 10 years old :D
    typical guy :lol:
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,332
    I can live with this. Not bad.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    imalive wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:
    My head is about to explode. I go shopping for baby furniture and shit explodes. My phone was going crazy while we were looking at cribs. I couldn't stop texting. My wife took my phone from me like I was 10 years old :D
    typical guy :lol:

    she's usually pretty cool. I think the pregnancy is getting to her. it's definitely not my fault :D
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,332
    He just got pulled. On his way I guess.
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