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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,742
    So, I'm going to Bensalem - Phillly Park casino on Saturday for a bachelor party. How is it playing blackjack there? Any suggestions or inside hints on best places to drink, play table games, etc? If I win big, will I get mugged on the way out? :lol:
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    So, I'm going to Bensalem - Phillly Park casino on Saturday for a bachelor party. How is it playing blackjack there? Any suggestions or inside hints on best places to drink, play table games, etc? If I win big, will I get mugged on the way out? :lol:

    you're allowed to hit a bach party with a newborn at home? that's nice work by you.

    sorry can't help ya, never been there
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,742
    The Fixer wrote:
    So, I'm going to Bensalem - Phillly Park casino on Saturday for a bachelor party. How is it playing blackjack there? Any suggestions or inside hints on best places to drink, play table games, etc? If I win big, will I get mugged on the way out? :lol:

    you're allowed to hit a bach party with a newborn at home? that's nice work by you.

    sorry can't help ya, never been there

    Maybe my wife doesn't know that she can tell me I can't go. I didn't think to ask permission. ;)

    Of course, I took care of the little guy when she went to the shower, so at least it's working both ways.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    So, I'm going to Bensalem - Phillly Park casino on Saturday for a bachelor party. How is it playing blackjack there? Any suggestions or inside hints on best places to drink, play table games, etc? If I win big, will I get mugged on the way out? :lol:

    you're allowed to hit a bach party with a newborn at home? that's nice work by you.

    sorry can't help ya, never been there

    Maybe my wife doesn't know that she can tell me I can't go. I didn't think to ask permission. ;)

    Of course, I took care of the little guy when she went to the shower, so at least it's working both ways.

    it's always easier to ask for forgiveness than permission
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    So these scheisters are on top of sending out invoices. Seat prices are up $2. And I'm fine with that, if it means you keep spending money where it's needed.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    So these scheisters are on top of sending out invoices. Seat prices are up $2. And I'm fine with that, if it means you keep spending money where it's needed.

    well said.

    I have a nice discount coming my way from the unused season ticket playoff games they gave me
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    The Fixer wrote:
    So these scheisters are on top of sending out invoices. Seat prices are up $2. And I'm fine with that, if it means you keep spending money where it's needed.

    well said.

    I have a nice discount coming my way from the unused season ticket playoff games they gave me

    Yeah, I think I'm gonna be putting down the 33% deposit. Can't afford to put it all down at once at the moment.

    Apparently I read Lopes was asking 250k for his job and Rube wouldnt give him that. To me that seems like pennies for these guys.
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,742
    Apparently I read Lopes was asking 250k for his job and Rube wouldnt give him that. To me that seems like pennies for these guys.

    That's pretty damn ridiculous if it's true.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,659
    Apparently I read Lopes was asking 250k for his job and Rube wouldnt give him that. To me that seems like pennies for these guys.

    That's pretty damn ridiculous if it's true.

    It had to be around there. I can't imagine the difference was more that $50k or so. The Yanks hitting coach has been making $400k and just got a raise, so I would think $250k would be pretty accurate for first base.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,664
    this loser thread is still going?? :wtf:

    I'm kidding :mrgreen: ....I love how you guys dissect every little nuance of your Phils. meanwhile, my GIANTS thread died 2 days after they won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. :wtf:

    don't be fooled tho....there are Giants fans (like me) who can discuss the past, present and future for hours and hours on end. they just don't post here :cry: ....or, maybe they're still hungover! :lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Apparently I read Lopes was asking 250k for his job and Rube wouldnt give him that. To me that seems like pennies for these guys.

    That's pretty damn ridiculous if it's true.

    It had to be around there. I can't imagine the difference was more that $50k or so. The Yanks hitting coach has been making $400k and just got a raise, so I would think $250k would be pretty accurate for first base.

    I can't wait to see the extension charlie manuel gets. howard's contract might have some competition
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    imalive wrote:
    this loser thread is still going?? :wtf:

    I'm kidding :mrgreen: ....I love how you guys dissect every little nuance of your Phils. meanwhile, my GIANTS thread died 2 days after they won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. :wtf:

    don't be fooled tho....there are Giants fans (like me) who can discuss the past, present and future for hours and hours on end. they just don't post here :cry: ....or, maybe they're still hungover! :lol:

    enjoy it man. the 2011 season will be here before you know it (hopefully :D ). your squad has a lot of decisions to make.

    If I hear one more rowand to the phils rumor I'm going to puke. Great guy, but I don't want him back here.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,659
    The Fixer wrote:
    I can't wait to see the extension charlie manuel gets. howard's contract might have some competition

    yeah, I am sure. I am suprised Girardi got such a small raise. I guess with the Cubs job out of the picture he didn't really have much leverage.
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    WobbieWobbie Posts: 29,664
    The Fixer wrote:

    If I hear one more rowand to the phils rumor I'm going to puke. Great guy, but I don't want him back here.
    we'll throw in burrell, too! it'll be a great homecoming :lol::lol:
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    Vancouver 11
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    imalive wrote:
    this loser thread is still going?? :wtf:

    I'm kidding :mrgreen: ....I love how you guys dissect every little nuance of your Phils. meanwhile, my GIANTS thread died 2 days after they won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. :wtf:

    don't be fooled tho....there are Giants fans (like me) who can discuss the past, present and future for hours and hours on end. they just don't post here :cry: ....or, maybe they're still hungover! :lol:

    It feels damn good doesn't it? Now, you have to make yourselves the favorite for 2011. This time you need to be consistent and not lucky. Because luck runs out.

    But, yeah, how bout Burrell? Two rings, one hit. Ridiculous.

    Alive, I'm assuming you hit the parade?
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    imalive wrote:
    this loser thread is still going?? :wtf:

    I'm kidding :mrgreen: ....I love how you guys dissect every little nuance of your Phils. meanwhile, my GIANTS thread died 2 days after they won the WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. :wtf:

    don't be fooled tho....there are Giants fans (like me) who can discuss the past, present and future for hours and hours on end. they just don't post here :cry: ....or, maybe they're still hungover! :lol:

    Congrats !

    Get Gracie a nice WS Champions shirt to wear

    8-)
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    imalive wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    If I hear one more rowand to the phils rumor I'm going to puke. Great guy, but I don't want him back here.
    we'll throw in burrell, too! it'll be a great homecoming :lol::lol:

    people have actually thrown around that idea too. a burrell/ibanez platoon would be the worst thing ever. I'd rather have greg luzinski in left field
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    The Fixer wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    The Fixer wrote:

    If I hear one more rowand to the phils rumor I'm going to puke. Great guy, but I don't want him back here.
    we'll throw in burrell, too! it'll be a great homecoming :lol::lol:

    people have actually thrown around that idea too. a burrell/ibanez platoon would be the worst thing ever. I'd rather have greg luzinski in left field

    Who's thrown that around? Seriously, who? Because I will find them and punch them.

    Read that the Phils offered Werthless a deal similar to Bay's. I understand why he turned it down, but I can't really knock the Phils for trying.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,469
    The Fixer wrote:
    imalive wrote:
    people have actually thrown around that idea too. a burrell/ibanez platoon would be the worst thing ever. I'd rather have greg luzinski in left field

    Who's thrown that around? Seriously, who? Because I will find them and punch them.

    Read that the Phils offered Werthless a deal similar to Bay's. I understand why he turned it down, but I can't really knock the Phils for trying.

    i thought that happened over the summer but it was just reported recently...
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    i thought that happened over the summer but it was just reported recently...

    I guess that's what it is, but like I said, can't knock em for trying. Good chunk of change, just not all the years he wants.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,469
    i thought that happened over the summer but it was just reported recently...

    I guess that's what it is, but like I said, can't knock em for trying. Good chunk of change, just not all the years he wants.

    yeah i was actually surprised. if they're willing to do that...what was it 4 years, 66M? ....you'd have to think they'd have a shot if he ends up getting something around 5 years 85M. ...i dunno
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    Johnny AbruzzoJohnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 10,742
    The Phils should sign Pat Burrell to sign autographs in the BBQ pit in rightfield.
    The Fixer wrote:
    I have a nice discount coming my way from the unused season ticket playoff games they gave me

    Yup, those 2011 (that's "twenty-eleven" please) seats should have a good chunk already paid.
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    i thought that happened over the summer but it was just reported recently...

    I guess that's what it is, but like I said, can't knock em for trying. Good chunk of change, just not all the years he wants.

    yeah i was actually surprised. if they're willing to do that...what was it 4 years, 66M? ....you'd have to think they'd have a shot if he ends up getting something around 5 years 85M. ...i dunno

    If that's the case, I don't know, maybe they could work out a 6 year deal with a player option for year 5 and mutual option for year 6 - if those things are allowed.

    I think they should trade Victorino. Free up some cash, and you could get a more valuable platoon for him than you would for Werth. Sign like a Podsednik and another guy who know will be willing to play small ball - the things that made Shane good - over trying to jack the ball over the fence all the time.
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    Trade Rollins and Victorino,resign Werth move him to cf(insert the fixers comment here) then rip up Oswalt"s contract and agree to a new 3yr deal. Sign a decent right handed bat(possible Vlad or Mags) that can platoon with both corner OF spots. So basically it's Rollins and Shane for Werth and Oswalt,i'll take the big bat and Pitcher over a SS who's injury prone and a cf who is the dumbest player in baseball anyday.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,659
    Trade Rollins and Victorino,resign Werth move him to cf(insert the fixers comment here) then rip up Oswalt"s contract and agree to a new 3yr deal. Sign a decent right handed bat(possible Vlad or Mags) that can platoon with both corner OF spots. So basically it's Rollins and Shane for Werth and Oswalt,i'll take the big bat and Pitcher over a SS who's injury prone and a cf who is the dumbest player in baseball anyday.

    Oh boy.
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    Cliffy6745 wrote:
    Trade Rollins and Victorino,resign Werth move him to cf(insert the fixers comment here) then rip up Oswalt"s contract and agree to a new 3yr deal. Sign a decent right handed bat(possible Vlad or Mags) that can platoon with both corner OF spots. So basically it's Rollins and Shane for Werth and Oswalt,i'll take the big bat and Pitcher over a SS who's injury prone and a cf who is the dumbest player in baseball anyday.

    Oh boy.
    Oh boy what???????????
    Go Birds!!!!
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    Vlad isn't playing the outfield, did you not see this idiot play right in the World Series. Dude is a permanent DH. Rollins isn't injury prone outside of this year. 08 and 09 were incidental injuries - ala product of the game, going back to a bag, etc. Jimmy is the best befensive SS in the league. Baseball teams build themselves up the middle - catcher, ss, 2b, cf. Jimmy's issues can be resolved over an offseason, albeit if he wants to do the extra work. By your logic, Magglio is just as, if not more, "injury prone". The moves you just thought of are those of an early 2000's Yankees team. And that's definitely not who I want to be. And Shane's not a dumb baseball player. Just makes mistakes on the basepaths. Dude is a much better fielder than Werth. If you keep Werth, you keep him in right and bring in a couple guys like Podsednik and Reed Johnson to platoon center.
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    The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Trade Rollins and Victorino,resign Werth move him to cf(insert the fixers comment here) then rip up Oswalt"s contract and agree to a new 3yr deal. Sign a decent right handed bat(possible Vlad or Mags) that can platoon with both corner OF spots. So basically it's Rollins and Shane for Werth and Oswalt,i'll take the big bat and Pitcher over a SS who's injury prone and a cf who is the dumbest player in baseball anyday.

    um, no.

    then you'd have an OF of ibanez, werth, and vlad/mags. wow, awful. not to mention they'd have to sign some turd like juan uribe to play SS.

    last year it was hamels, this year it's rollins. I don't get philly's need to run good players out of town. rollins catches everything, he's not making much money this year, and he was hurt for all of 2010. he's playing for a contract in 2011...he's gonna have a monster year.

    and oswalt has an option for 2012. no need to give him a new contract.

    people need to come to grips with the fact that jayson werth is gone. he's gonna get overpaid by someone and it's not gonna be the phils. no need to blow up what they've got. they will be the NL favorites again entering 2011.
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    Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 16,831
    The Fixer wrote:
    Trade Rollins and Victorino,resign Werth move him to cf(insert the fixers comment here) then rip up Oswalt"s contract and agree to a new 3yr deal. Sign a decent right handed bat(possible Vlad or Mags) that can platoon with both corner OF spots. So basically it's Rollins and Shane for Werth and Oswalt,i'll take the big bat and Pitcher over a SS who's injury prone and a cf who is the dumbest player in baseball anyday.

    um, no.

    then you'd have an OF of ibanez, werth, and vlad/mags. wow, awful. not to mention they'd have to sign some turd like juan uribe to play SS.

    last year it was hamels, this year it's rollins. I don't get philly's need to run good players out of town. rollins catches everything, he's not making much money this year, and he was hurt for all of 2010. he's playing for a contract in 2011...he's gonna have a monster year.

    and oswalt has an option for 2012. no need to give him a new contract.

    people need to come to grips with the fact that jayson werth is gone. he's gonna get overpaid by someone and it's not gonna be the phils. no need to blow up what they've got. they will be the NL favorites again entering 2011.

    Because people with a football mindset jump the gun on all this shit. You don't fix your problems with the above like I explained in my above post.

    Rollins = contract year. Huge.

    But, if I did wanna shake the house up to keep Werth then I'm trading Vic. But you gotta bring in speed and defense to take his place
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