2007-08 Phil. Flyers

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kenshunt wrote:

Nice elbow by Richards lol, Kovy looked dazed for a bit.

Not to mention Bettman was at the game !

I thought it was Kovy acting like usual until I saw the replay

They better play better in Wash


LETS GO FLYERS !!

chromiam

They looked like a team who sat around for 5 days... who the fuck makes a schedule where you have 5 days rest on a road trip, then back to back games in Montreal and DC???

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chromiam wrote:

They looked like a team who sat around for 5 days... who the fuck makes a schedule where you have 5 days rest on a road trip, then back to back games in Montreal and DC???

Their schedule has been fucked up since the beginning

Briere better start scoring

No goals in 8 games !!

chromiam

Phantom Pain wrote:

Their schedule has been fucked up since the beginning

Briere better start scoring

No goals in 8 games !!

I'm not worried about Briere... he'll find his touch and will get more space in the offensive zone when Gagne comes back or if Carter gets a shot with the top line if Gagne is out for much longer.

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chromiam wrote:

I'm not worried about Briere... he'll find his touch and will get more space in the offensive zone when Gagne comes back or if Carter gets a shot with the top line if Gagne is out for much longer.

Briere with one !

Nice win against the CAPS

Big week coming up

Rygar

And what's a week in the NHL where the Flyers' don't run some poor assmonkey's head into the boards??
Abnormal, that's what.

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

And what's a week in the NHL where the Flyers' don't run some poor assmonkey's head into the boards??
Abnormal, that's what.

ahh but no mention of the stick swinging and other closing moments of game goonery not associated with the Flyers.... nice.

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

ahh but no mention of the stick swinging and other closing moments of game goonery not associated with the Flyers.... nice.

That's cause I didn't watch the game and only saw the head squish. Which came first?
If you want me to bash the Boourns, that isn't hard. Their captain is just a glorified ogrish goon, who enjoys dropping the gloves with people who can't reach his head anyway (when they aren't aware he's coming too!).

The problem with the Flyers is that it's becoming a regular occurence to take a player out with a dirty hit....nice.

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

That's cause I didn't watch the game and only saw the head squish. Which came first?
If you want me to bash the Boourns, that isn't hard. Their captain is just a glorified ogrish goon, who enjoys dropping the gloves with people who can't reach his head anyway (when they aren't aware he's coming too!).

The problem with the Flyers is that it's becoming a regular occurence to take a player out with a dirty hit....nice.

Well then I guess you don't watch much hockey or hockey highlights at all. I was talking about the last few weeks with Ohlund slashing Koivu and breaking his leg or Kostopoulus' cross check in the last minute of a game or the player from Phoenix who started an altercation in the final minutes of a game. There have been multiple incidents not involving the Flyers and yet you have to go out of your way to point this one out.

I've yet to see a clear angle on what happened other than Hartnell following thru on his check which I agree he shouldn't have due to the player's position. As for Jones, well Bergeron has to protect himself and not stop short 4 feet from the boards and bend over exposing his head and neck to serious injury. Yes, Jones should have held up and he was suspended for that but that does not excuse Bergeron from having to protect himself from that situation.

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

Well then I guess you don't watch much hockey or hockey highlights at all. I was talking about the last few weeks with Ohlund slashing Koivu and breaking his leg or Kostopoulus' cross check in the last minute of a game or the player from Phoenix who started an altercation in the final minutes of a game. There have been multiple incidents not involving the Flyers and yet you have to go out of your way to point this one out.

I've yet to see a clear angle on what happened other than Hartnell following thru on his check which I agree he shouldn't have due to the player's position. As for Jones, well Bergeron has to protect himself and not stop short 4 feet from the boards and bend over exposing his head and neck to serious injury. Yes, Jones should have held up and he was suspended for that but that does not excuse Bergeron from having to protect himself from that situation.

Yeah I never watch any hockey or hockey highlights....
I saw Ohland's slash, I missed Kostopoulus' cross check but saw most of the game (re: Chara and Stuart glove dropping with rookies). The entire end of the Habs - Bruins game was a choppy penalty fest. Ohland hadn't gone after someone in revenge in years, not that that excuses the slash.

Looks like Hartnell had time to alter his check, and he didn't, plain and simple. I didn't have to go out of my way to find such an easy target.

Wasn't Bergeron already on his knees before he turned his back to Jones?

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

Yeah I never watch any hockey or hockey highlights....
I saw Ohland's slash, I missed Kostopoulus' cross check but saw most of the game (re: Chara and Stuart glove dropping with rookies). The entire end of the Habs - Bruins game was a choppy penalty fest. Ohland hadn't gone after someone in revenge in years, not that that excuses the slash.

Looks like Hartnell had time to alter his check, and he didn't, plain and simple. I didn't have to go out of my way to find such an easy target.

Wasn't Bergeron already on his knees before he turned his back to Jones?

and yet no thread or mention of any of those incidents....

Hartnell has no history either but he's "an easy target".. ok

Jones has no history either and no Bergeron was not on his knees before the hit.

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

and yet no thread or mention of any of those incidents....

Hartnell has no history either but he's "an easy target".. ok

Jones has no history either and no Bergeron was not on his knees before the hit.

I never said the player in question was an easy target, I meant the Flyers were.
And don't misunderstand me, my ribbing on your precious team is not saying I believe players are out to intentionally injure other players.
So if I'm bashing the Flyers I have to mention every other random act of violence to put it in perspective?

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

I never said the player in question was an easy target, I meant the Flyers were.
And don't misunderstand me, my ribbing on your precious team is not saying I believe players are out to intentionally injure other players.
So if I'm bashing the Flyers I have to mention every other random act of violence to put it in perspective?

and the Flyers are an easy target due to the 70s.. ok that's fine

no just make sure you point out that you're bashing without any real regard about what else goes on around the league by any other team.

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

and the Flyers are an easy target due to the 70s.. ok that's fine

no just make sure you point out that you're bashing without any real regard about what else goes on around the league by any other team.

Right, cause what everyone else is doing justifies what happens in a Flyers jersey.
Forget the 70's, just the last two months. Although if you want to get old school, maybe we can get Hextall to suit up for you. He'd fit right in swingin' that stick like a lumberjack.

chromiam

Rygar wrote:

Right, cause what everyone else is doing justifies what happens in a Flyers jersey.
Forget the 70's, just the last two months. Although if you want to get old school, maybe we can get Hextall to suit up for you. He'd fit right in swingin' that stick like a lumberjack.

no just puts it into perspective of what's going on around the league..
every infraction was for a body check... no stick swinging incidents at all.

Rygar

chromiam wrote:

no just puts it into perspective of what's going on around the league..
every infraction was for a body check... no stick swinging incidents at all.

Kesler would disagree.

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Flyers’ Hartnell suspended for two games
By Tim Panaccio

Inquirer Staff Writer

Flyers forward Scott Hartnell has been suspended two games by the NHL for a blatant, dangerous head shot to Boston defenseman Andrew Alberts during Monday's 6-3 Bruins rout at the Wachovia Center.
League disciplinarian Colin Campbell made the ruling this afternoon during a conference call with Hartnell and Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren. Hartnell is the fourth Flyer to be suspended this season for a dangerous hit. Ironically, today marks the one-month anniversary of Randy Jones' dangerous hit to Boston center Patrice Bergeron, for which Jones was suspended.

The team, much to the displeasure of coach John Stevens, has become a Millennium version of the Broad Street Bullies.

"I'm sure it's [the comparison] is going to resurface here," Stevens said.

Hartnell said before going into his conference call with Campbell he didn't feel he deserved a suspension.

As for the Bullies image, he said earlier this morning, "I think we got that reputation. I don't know if it s back in the day or what's happening right now. We've got that badge on our shoulder as kind of a rough and tough team and we have to welcome that. Even if I do get suspended, I am still going to finish my checks.

"If you watch the last few games, I go for the forecheck and the D has their back to me and I don't finish my check that hard. You can rub them out and bury the guy from behind and it would probably be a legal check, but I am not that dirty of a player."

Jones was suspended for two games earlier this month after checking Bergeron from behind during a game Oct. 27 in Boston. Bergeron suffered multiple injuries, including a Grade III concussion and is not expected back this season.

Jesse Boulerice was suspended an NHL record 25 games for cross-checking the Canucks Ryan Kesler about the neck on Oct. 10 in Vancouver.

And Steve Downie was suspended for 20 games after hitting the Senators' Dean McAmmond with a leaping, shoulder hit to the head during a preseason game in Ottawa on Sept. 25.

The Flyers have been soundly criticized throughout the league by others as being a dirty hockey club. In fairness, Jones' hit was the only one among the four that had a tragic result because of accidental circumstances - Bergeron stopped short of the back boards on a puck chase, and bent over, leaving himself vulnerable to serious injury.

That, however, was not the case with the cheap hit Hartnell threw on Alberts.

Alberts was defenseless and on his knees at the side boards, trying to stop a chip-in from Joffrey Lupul. Hartnell came across the ice horizontally, pulling up to make sure he didn't elbow Alberts, but nonetheless smacking Alberts' head into the dasher and glass with his upper body.


http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/20071127_Flyers_Hartnell_suspended_for_two_games.html

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Rygar wrote:

Right, cause what everyone else is doing justifies what happens in a Flyers jersey.
Forget the 70's, just the last two months. Although if you want to get old school, maybe we can get Hextall to suit up for you. He'd fit right in swingin' that stick like a lumberjack.

Oh stop, let's not get carried away

You're just a Hater !

There is a huge bias against the Flyers in Canada with the media up there, everything is blown out of proportion when it's the Flyers

I agree with the Hartnell suspension but you would think it was a Bertuzzi type hit on Moore

Rygar

Phantom Pain wrote:

Oh stop, let's not get carried away

You're just a Hater !

There is a huge bias against the Flyers in Canada with the media up there, everything is blown out of proportion when it's the Flyers

I agree with the Hartnell suspension but you would think it was a Bertuzzi type hit on Moore

Hardly a Bertuzzi style.
I thought there was a huge bias against the Flyers everywhere?
Edit - if you think the Flyers are the team that everything gets blown out of proportion in Canada, well you are clearly misguided.

smarchee

ya, throwing a body check against a players on his knees against the boards is commendable. Hartnell is a bitch, always has been, always will be. He's a poor man Avery, and needs to get his ass kicked once in a while to keep him in line.