Post Your Daily Workout(s)

Ms. Haiku

The plan was 2 miles. At 1.9 miles this song comes on my shuffle:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4017336824018457943&q=pearl+jam+given+to+fly&total=210&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I knew right then and there I was running a little more than 2 miles. I ran about 2.25.

fanch75

My question:

How do you get lats like the ones that The Diamond One (David Lee Roth) is boasting here?

http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/06/onthedl.jpg

GreenTeaDisease

fanch75 wrote:

My question:

How do you get lats like the ones that The Diamond One (David Lee Roth) is boasting here?

http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/06/onthedl.jpg

looks like...starvation?

Riverrunner

Ms. Haiku wrote:

The plan was 2 miles. At 1.9 miles this song comes on my shuffle:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4017336824018457943&q=pearl+jam+given+to+fly&total=210&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

I knew right then and there I was running a little more than 2 miles. I ran about 2.25.

Great running song! Makes you feel like you can run forever! Combine that with the runner's high and it is awesome! Surely no drugs can do that!

Riverrunner

fanch75 wrote:

My question:

How do you get lats like the ones that The Diamond One (David Lee Roth) is boasting here?

http://cache.idolator.com/assets/resources/2007/06/onthedl.jpg

In my unexpert opinion:

1. genetics
2. count calories
3. work out

lalalalaaaaaaaa

YESTERDAY:

Cardio:
40 min. on recumbent cycle @ 70% MHR

Workout (back/bi's):
-Barbell deadlifts (5x5)
-Seated lat cable pulldowns (5x5)
-Dumbbell hammer curls (4x8)
-Seated cable rows (5x5)
-Dumbbell concentration curls (3x10)
-High cable rows (3x10)
-Standing dumbbell curls (3x10)

ooooo my gluts are burnin' today

GreenTeaDisease

Saturnal wrote:

YESTERDAY:

Cardio:
40 min. on recumbent cycle @ 70% MHR

Workout (back/bi's):
-Barbell deadlifts (5x5)
-Seated lat cable pulldowns (5x5)
-Dumbbell hammer curls (4x8)
-Seated cable rows (5x5)
-Dumbbell concentration curls (3x10)
-High cable rows (3x10)
-Standing dumbbell curls (3x10)

ooooo my gluts are burnin' today

oo burning gluts
I have like gluts of steal. they're never sore no matter how hard I work them. also why I'm a maniac on a bike. Even out of shape, my glutes remain strong.

ugh still not happy about lower body tonight. It will include:

30-45 minutes running or elliptical
squats/jump squats
twisting lunges/wall squats with a swiss ball and bicep curls
side lunges/stationary lunges
calf raises/mountain climbers
abducters/aductors

...I feel like I'm missing something...

lalalalaaaaaaaa

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

oo burning gluts
I have like gluts of steal. they're never sore no matter how hard I work them. also why I'm a maniac on a bike. Even out of shape, my glutes remain strong.

ugh still not happy about lower body tonight. It will include:

30-45 minutes running or elliptical
squats/jump squats
twisting lunges/wall squats with a swiss ball and bicep curls
side lunges/stationary lunges
calf raises/mountain climbers
abducters/aductors

...I feel like I'm missing something...

Looks ok, but have you been doing cardio before lifting? If so, I'd definitely reverse that, and do it after you lift. You'll burn more fat that way typically.

Steve Dunne

today...tough run after yesterday's chocolate fest...
2 miles running...getting a tad easier
10 min. bike

this past wednesday...
shoveled snow/slush for 4 hours...gotta count for something cause yesterday was all day painful!

GreenTeaDisease

Saturnal wrote:

Looks ok, but have you been doing cardio before lifting? If so, I'd definitely reverse that, and do it after you lift. You'll burn more fat that way typically.

well here is thing...

I go back and forth on this one. right now, cardio before lifting seems to be working out better. especially for lower body because I work my legs so hard while lifting I can barely walk let around run after (like it's difficult to stand). But yeah I have heard that lifting first is better, but when I REALLY got in shape I was doing cardio first (I used to sprint intervals before lifting, but it's too hard now). for some reason it's just feeling better now to do cardio first. it's also confusing because going back to a simple cardio/strength work out is very weird. I used to do a more wholistic cross training work out. again, I can't do it anymore :(.

oh and also, if you work out in the morning on an empty stomach you're supposedly supposed to do cardio first. As I usually work out in the morning, I'm probably just in that habit when I work out at night.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

well here is thing...

I go back and forth on this one. right now, cardio before lifting seems to be working out better. especially for lower body because I work my legs so hard while lifting I can barely walk let around run after (like it's difficult to stand). But yeah I have heard that lifting first is better, but when I REALLY got in shape I was doing cardio first (I used to sprint intervals before lifting, but it's too hard now). for some reason it's just feeling better now to do cardio first. it's also confusing because going back to a simple cardio/strength work out is very weird. I used to do a more wholistic cross training work out. again, I can't do it anymore :(.

oh and also, if you work out in the morning on an empty stomach you're supposedly supposed to do cardio first. As I usually work out in the morning, I'm probably just in that habit when I work out at night.

I should've mentioned this before, but it's not so much that it's better to do cardio after lifting...it's more the fact that it's bad to do cardio BEFORE lifting. The reason you don't want to do cardio before lifting is because you deplete the glycogen from your muscles with cardio...then when you go to lift after, you're very likely to burn muscle in the process.

Doing fasted cardio first thing in the morning is ok, but you definitely never wanna lift on an empty stomach. You'd lose muscle that way for sure, and your metabolism would go way down.

If it feels better doing the cardio before lifting, at least have a quick meal right after the cardio that has lots of fast-absorbing protein and carbs. Like a whey shake and some Gatorade.

Ms. Haiku

Steve Dunne wrote:

today...tough run after yesterday's chocolate fest...
2 miles running...getting a tad easier
10 min. bike

this past wednesday...
shoveled snow/slush for 4 hours...gotta count for something cause yesterday was all day painful!

I say it counts for something. If I shoveled snow for 4 hours I would think I deserved some chocolate cake, and ice cream, and cheese doodles, and chocolate chip cookies, and hot chocolate, and apple crisp and . . .

GreenTeaDisease

Saturnal wrote:

I should've mentioned this before, but it's not so much that it's better to do cardio after lifting...it's more the fact that it's bad to do cardio BEFORE lifting. The reason you don't want to do cardio before lifting is because you deplete the glycogen from your muscles with cardio...then when you go to lift after, you're very likely to burn muscle in the process.

hmmm this is sort of the opposite of what I've been taught. I've always learned that you lift first to run down the glycogen in your muscles, and then you're hungry/tired when you do cardio, so if you are working out at night you would do this to mimic doing cardio on an empty stomach, which burns more fat. So really the only important thing is to do cardio while you have no sugar in your system (see body sculpting bible for women).

Saturnal wrote:

Doing fasted cardio first thing in the morning is ok, but you definitely never wanna lift on an empty stomach. You'd lose muscle that way for sure, and your metabolism would go way down.

If it feels better doing the cardio before lifting, at least have a quick meal right after the cardio that has lots of fast-absorbing protein and carbs. Like a whey shake and some Gatorade.

Nahhhh...I'm a girl dude, I'm trying to gain lean muscle, not mass (and I can build mass incredibly easily). It's a completely stupid idea for me to be having whey shakes or gaterade while working out. Way high in calories. I don't need that. the only time I go near gaterade is before/after a race 12k or over. I used to drink whey shakes for breakfast, but they contributed to me gaining 40 lbs.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

hmmm this is sort of the opposite of what I've been taught. I've always learned that you lift first to run down the glycogen in your muscles, and then you're hungry/tired when you do cardio, so if you are working out at night you would do this to mimic doing cardio on an empty stomach, which burns more fat. So really the only important thing is to do cardio while you have no sugar in your system (see body sculpting bible for women).

Yeah, if you lift or do cardio, you run down the glycogen. So if you're glycogen-depleted and doing cardio, you'll probably burn mostly stored body fat. But if you lift while glycogen-depleted, you'll probably burn mostly lean tissue. Lifting is anerobic, not aerobic like cardio.

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

Nahhhh...I'm a girl dude, I'm trying to gain lean muscle, not mass (and I can build mass incredibly easily). It's a completely stupid idea for me to be having whey shakes or gaterade while working out. Way high in calories. I don't need that. the only time I go near gaterade is before/after a race 12k or over. I used to drink whey shakes for breakfast, but they contributed to me gaining 40 lbs.

I'm not recommending the quick meal in between because I think you'll gain more mass if you have it. I'm recommending it because I think you'll LOSE lean tissue if you DON'T have it. If it's properly-portioned, you won't put on weight.

Steve Dunne

Ms. Haiku wrote:

I say it counts for something. If I shoveled snow for 4 hours I would think I deserved some chocolate cake, and ice cream, and cheese doodles, and chocolate chip cookies, and hot chocolate, and apple crisp and . . .

yea...wednesday sucked big time. had i gone out an hour earlier when it was just sleeting, the snowblower would have done some help. but no, i had to wait and feed the kids breakfast. damn near killed meself out there!

GreenTeaDisease

Saturnal wrote:

I'm not recommending the quick meal in between because I think you'll gain more mass if you have it. I'm recommending it because I think you'll LOSE lean tissue if you DON'T have it. If it's properly-portioned, you won't put on weight.

I get what you are saying but 1) I think I really have to be careful NOT to put on mass 2) is 30 minutes of cardio really going to be THAT detrimental to muscle tissue? I mean 30 minutes on the treadmill is like nothing. I mean I can see your point if you talking like a 12k beforehand...

I've been to some really good trainers...at one point I was trained for like 6 months and he had me doing sprint intervals before I did anything else, and he never mentioned eating anything after...

I'm not like trying to be a bitch, btw, I'm just arguing the point because I am taking you seriously so I'm trying to kind of figure it out.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Steve Dunne wrote:

yea...wednesday sucked big time. had i gone out an hour earlier when it was just sleeting, the snowblower would have done some help. but no, i had to wait and feed the kids breakfast. damn near killed meself out there!

The shoveling definitely counts...good resistance training :P

Ms. Haiku

It was great running weather today. 3 miles . . . 3 torturous miles! Ohmygawd, can I run any slower. Actually, the first couple miles weren't that bad, but at about mile 2 I thought I would make a great lava lamp - constantly moving, slow, blobbous, and mysterious

My twin's husband came home early to make sure to give me enough time to run before he had to leave again (I'm at their house on Fridays so an adult is home when they aren't) Anyway, he comes in, says he made sure to get home in time, laughs at me, and says "You have no excuse!" hahahahahahahahahaha

Afterwards, when I came into the house, their little boston terrier is all set to play ball with me. That's a great way to relax arm muscles after a run. I just threw the ball and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, then switched arms, and again, and again, and again, and again. Little guy has stamina!

GreenTeaDisease

uuuugggh so glad that's over...

Riverrunner

Well, I got my long run in, but it wasn't as long as it should have been. Planned on doing 16 or so. Ended up at about 13.5. Today was a glum, dark, dreary day, accompanied by a damp chill that went to the bone even though it was high 30's and low 40's.

However, like SteveDunne I did some other stuff, like dragging limbs and branches around trying to clear a path after the disastrous ice storm on Monday & Tuesday.