if you read my post carefully you would have seen that I only did in regard to similarities of opinion. to make it more clear, what i was saying is that if you took away the whole rock star thing, and eddie vedder was just some dude would you think he wouldn't be fun to party with? from what i've seen he seems to have a pretty good time, and also finds time to be critical of almost everything around him. my main point was that to say someone isn't fun to be around because they try to gain a deeper understanding the world around them is just plain stupid, and i was using eddie vedder as an example of how that belief was stupid.
i'll let the cowboys cheerleaders speak for themselves and not for me. you could always boycott the nfl if you don't like all the production, commercialism, etc.
what will boycotting the NFL do to change it? i'd rather teach class to kids taking sports management who are going to work in the industry to understand what they are teaching people by creating spectacles like the NFL as it is currently constructed. i think that will do more...maybe i'm wrong.
10-0 and 1 win with an * for cheating against the Jets.
This team can win the SuperBowl this year and still not live the spygate thing down.
They shouldn't...in my opinion it's not played up enough. The funny thing is many of the same people who support the Patriots and roll their eyes at spygate are the same one's who boo'd Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa when they came to Fenway this year. Talk about hypocritical. In fact most of the arguments are the same, yet Belichek gets a free pass on it because he's Belichek. For example, some of the arguments that have been used for both sides "most people in the league were doing it", "you can't prove it helped, you still had to perform on the field", and "you're just looking for a reason to take away from the best player/team in the world".
In the end, the fact of the matter was, that Barry Bonds and Bill Belicheck both knew what they were doing, even after they were told not to, and yet most Pats fans are only willing to look the other way for one, and complain when the other gets brought up...why?
They shouldn't...in my opinion it's not played up enough. The funny thing is many of the same people who support the Patriots and roll their eyes at spygate are the same one's who boo'd Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa when they came to Fenway this year. Talk about hypocritical. In fact most of the arguments are the same, yet Belichek gets a free pass on it because he's Belichek. For example, some of the arguments that have been used for both sides "most people in the league were doing it", "you can't prove it helped, you still had to perform on the field", and "you're just looking for a reason to take away from the best player/team in the world".
In the end, the fact of the matter was, that Barry Bonds and Bill Belicheck both knew what they were doing, even after they were told not to, and yet most Pats fans are only willing to look the other way for one, and complain when the other gets brought up...why?
You like the sound of your own voice huh?
"I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive
10-0 and 1 win with an * for cheating against the Jets.
This team can win the SuperBowl this year and still not live the spygate thing down.
Maybe in your eyes.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
why do you get so upset when i post an argument, or answer someone's question addressed to something i posted followed with coherent reasoning for why i came to that belief? isn't it better than one-line snipes that only serve to agitate a situation. isn't the whole point of arguing to get somewhere better or gain a better understanding of a situation?
anyway i'd rather do that than just get keep getting mad at somebody. the whole point of this board is that we all like Pearl Jam, but we have individual interests and beliefs that can be shared. If you are really bothered so much by what I write then you could ignore me or write something a little deeper to argue back with (that would be fine/fun).
why do you get so upset when i post an argument, or answer someone's question addressed to something i posted followed with coherent reasoning for why i came to that belief? isn't it better than one-line snipes that only serve to agitate a situation. isn't the whole point of arguing to get somewhere better or gain a better understanding of a situation?
anyway i'd rather do that than just get keep getting mad at somebody. the whole point of this board is that we all like Pearl Jam, but we have individual interests and beliefs that can be shared. If you are really bothered so much by what I write then you could ignore me or write something a little deeper to argue back with (that would be fine/fun).
Unfortunately most peeps would rather NOT take the time to explain themselves. I believe they feel a sense of power over another with unexplained oneliners.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
why do you get so upset when i post an argument, or answer someone's question addressed to something i posted followed with coherent reasoning for why i came to that belief? isn't it better than one-line snipes that only serve to agitate a situation. isn't the whole point of arguing to get somewhere better or gain a better understanding of a situation?
anyway i'd rather do that than just get keep getting mad at somebody. the whole point of this board is that we all like Pearl Jam, but we have individual interests and beliefs that can be shared. If you are really bothered so much by what I write then you could ignore me or write something a little deeper to argue back with (that would be fine/fun).
I'm not upset.
"I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive
what will boycotting the NFL do to change it? i'd rather teach class to kids taking sports management who are going to work in the industry to understand what they are teaching people by creating spectacles like the NFL as it is currently constructed. i think that will do more...maybe i'm wrong.
i don't think you are wrong, but good luck trying to change the minds of the "ya dude!" crowd.
it's not easy sometimes, but a lot of the kids really respond to the courses that i've taught, and they go out and try to apply these things to whatever industry they join (usually some low level Single A baseball team or something)....
ANYWAY back to the main point of this post, Tom Brady did get decked 5-8 times last night (but no helmet to knee shots), and the Patriots defense got exposed for being generally overrated, and in the middle -downright old- for the first time since the Cowboys game. Now it makes sense why Belicheck keeps running up the score, because his defense is not really transcendent like the offense. Next Monday will be the true test of whether or not a team will bounty him since they are playing the Ravens. Since the Ravens truly have nothing to play for and look to be trailing by 24 early in the second half this could be the week the thread was created for.
it's not easy sometimes, but a lot of the kids really respond to the courses that i've taught, and they go out and try to apply these things to whatever industry they join (usually some low level Single A baseball team or something)....
ANYWAY back to the main point of this post, Tom Brady did get decked 5-8 times last night (but no helmet to knee shots), and the Patriots defense got exposed for being generally overrated, and in the middle -downright old- for the first time since the Cowboys game. Now it makes sense why Belicheck keeps running up the score, because his defense is not really transcendent like the offense. Next Monday will be the true test of whether or not a team will bounty him since they are playing the Ravens. Since the Ravens truly have nothing to play for and look to be trailing by 24 early in the second half this could be the week the thread was created for.
Like I've always said "There's a Method to His Madness". Their defense has been weak for the most part all year long so it comes down to how well the offense can score and score as often as they can is a must.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Like I've always said "There's a Method to His Madness". Their defense has been weak for the most part all year long so it comes down to how well the offense can score and score as often as they can is a must.
Peace
Good point...too a point. They have scored some touchdowns ridiculously late in the game when rolling oppenents by essentially passing their way to the end zone. Additionally, the bad karma from pounding teams when they are down will always come back to get you. I have rooted for the "U" for years, and I remember when, in McNabb's senior year, Syracuse beat them 66-13 after years of getting smoked ... let me tell you it's no fun being on the other side. Either way, after this week I think it is fairly safe to say that the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the NFL are the Packers/Cowboys which signals a shift at the top.
Either way, after this week I think it is fairly safe to say that the 2nd and 3rd best teams in the NFL are the Packers/Cowboys which signals a shift at the top.
I wouldn't really say that. Who have the Packers or Cowboys beaten that are decent?
Dallas has beaten the Giants 2x, Dolphins, Bears, Rams, Bills, Vikings, Eagles, Redskins and the Jets and got blown out by the Patriots. Against probable playoff teams they are 2-1 but the Giants really aren't that good.
Green Bay has beaten the Eagles, Giants, Chargers, Vikings 2x, Redskins, Broncos, Chiefs, Panthers and Lions and lost to the Bears.
Their record against probable playoff teams is 3-0 but only the Chargers are a decent team.
I would still put the Colts ahead of either of those teams.
I wouldn't really say that. Who have the Packers or Cowboys beaten that are decent?
Dallas has beaten the Giants 2x, Dolphins, Bears, Rams, Bills, Vikings, Eagles, Redskins and the Jets and got blown out by the Patriots. Against probable playoff teams they are 2-1 but the Giants really aren't that good.
Green Bay has beaten the Eagles, Giants, Chargers, Vikings 2x, Redskins, Broncos, Chiefs, Panthers and Lions and lost to the Bears.
Their record against probable playoff teams is 3-0 but only the Chargers are a decent team.
I would still put the Colts ahead of either of those teams.
I'd agree with that, I'd never count out the Colts and their qb Manning.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I wouldn't really say that. Who have the Packers or Cowboys beaten that are decent?
Dallas has beaten the Giants 2x, Dolphins, Bears, Rams, Bills, Vikings, Eagles, Redskins and the Jets and got blown out by the Patriots. Against probable playoff teams they are 2-1 but the Giants really aren't that good.
Green Bay has beaten the Eagles, Giants, Chargers, Vikings 2x, Redskins, Broncos, Chiefs, Panthers and Lions and lost to the Bears.
Their record against probable playoff teams is 3-0 but only the Chargers are a decent team.
I would still put the Colts ahead of either of those teams.
When healthy of course I would take the Colts, though they are weaker and more injured now than they were last year, and they lost to a Dallas team that was nowhere near as good as now then...still I would say the Colts are better at 100%. However, right now they are not.
In addition to use your logic they have beaten: NO, Ten, Hou, Den, TB, Jax, Car, KC, and Atl, and lost to the Pats (in a shady game slanted in their favor that was never close), and the Chargers. I'm not sure who you rate as probable playoff teams, but I guess the Bux/NO winner, and one of the triumvirate of crappy teams in their division Hou/Jax/Ten will go, and both the Pats and SD. So they are 2-2 against playoff squads, and not at full strength. As such I would turn it around and ask who have the Colts beaten that are decent?
Let's not forget that NE plays in a division that features Miami, the Jets, and the Bills so that's an annual 5-6 wins for free, but they have beaten Dal, Ind, and Cleveland on the road and San Diego at home for solid victories.
The whole point is that good teams get lucky and stay injury free (though the Pats are showing signs of age catching up to them Gay/Colvin/Harrison shuttling in and out last night), and beat the crappy teams on their schedule. Then when faced with stiff competition come through in the clutch and/or get lucky.
Even for as good as the Pats last night they got a pick 6, a pick in the endzone, a terrible offsides on 4th down, and had Feely fall over himself on the first play after the onside kick. Against the Colts they got lucky that the LB dropped a sure pick on the play before they threw deep to Moss, and against the Cowboys staved off a 4th and 1 b/c of a holding call. They still might go 19-0, but it hasn't been as easy as people have made it out to be.
P.S. Since the 'blowout' loss against the Patriots, the Cowboys have added Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis full-time, Terrence Newman at full-strength, and Pete Hunter. A strong argument could be made that as the Colts have been rocked by injury the Cowboys have gotten stronger.
In addition to use your logic they have beaten: NO, Ten, Hou, Den, TB, Jax, Car, KC, and Atl, and lost to the Pats (in a shady game slanted in their favor that was never close), and the Chargers.
what was shady about the pats/colts game? (other than the fact that ALL the calls went against the pats).
Let's not forget that NE plays in a division that features Miami, the Jets, and the Bills so that's an annual 5-6 wins for free, but they have beaten Dal, Ind, and Cleveland on the road and San Diego at home for solid victories.
i can't help where the pats are located and other teams are located. and i can't help if the dolphins don't know how to draft and make stupid trades (welker to the pats), or if the jets realized 2-3 years too late that their qb (pennington) sucks or if the bills, well, they should be a better team in my eyes regardless of losman.
if there wasn't expansion the colts would still be in the same division as the pats. imagine a regular season home and away?
and the browns game was at foxboro, not at the browns. the redskins aren't a chump team even though the pats destroyed them. hey, didn't the cowboys seem to have a tough time with them a couple weeks ago?
The whole point is that good teams get lucky and stay injury free (though the Pats are showing signs of age catching up to them Gay/Colvin/Harrison shuttling in and out last night), and beat the crappy teams on their schedule. Then when faced with stiff competition come through in the clutch and/or get lucky.
randall gay is not old. colvin is not all that old either. harrison is but i would take him on the pats over a lot of players 5 years younger than him. gay had a back injury and colvin had an arm injury (even though nbc said it was his foot. in football, players get hurt - doesn't mean they're old or they suck.
Even for as good as the Pats last night they got a pick 6, a pick in the endzone, a terrible offsides on 4th down, and had Feely fall over himself on the first play after the onside kick. Against the Colts they got lucky that the LB dropped a sure pick on the play before they threw deep to Moss, and against the Cowboys staved off a 4th and 1 b/c of a holding call. They still might go 19-0, but it hasn't been as easy as people have made it out to be.
samuel's interception for a TD was not a gimmie pick. feely was an idiot for trying to go for the kill at the end of the game and 'deserved' to get picked. the neutral zone infraction was terrible. meanwhile moss had ANOTHER phantom offensive pass interference called against him and gostkowski's field goal was actually good despite the missed call by the refs.
more than half of the pats wins - jets, both bills games, miami, cincinnati, redskins and chargers were easy wins (in hindsight). the dallas game was over late-3rd quarter and the colts and eagles were the two toughest games the pats have played so far this year.
P.S. Since the 'blowout' loss against the Patriots, the Cowboys have added Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis full-time, Terrence Newman at full-strength, and Pete Hunter. A strong argument could be made that as the Colts have been rocked by injury the Cowboys have gotten stronger.
i would totally agree. i just laugh when people try to defend peyton and the colts saying "marvin harrison is out" or "dallas clark was hurt" or "tony ugoh this" and "anthony gonzalez that." please. look at what the pats and brady had during the last few years and then appreciate.
what was shady about the pats/colts game? (other than the fact that ALL the calls went against the pats).
i can't help where the pats are located and other teams are located. and i can't help if the dolphins don't know how to draft and make stupid trades (welker to the pats), or if the jets realized 2-3 years too late that their qb (pennington) sucks or if the bills, well, they should be a better team in my eyes regardless of losman.
if there wasn't expansion the colts would still be in the same division as the pats. imagine a regular season home and away?
and the browns game was at foxboro, not at the browns. the redskins aren't a chump team even though the pats destroyed them. hey, didn't the cowboys seem to have a tough time with them a couple weeks ago?
randall gay is not old. colvin is not all that old either. harrison is but i would take him on the pats over a lot of players 5 years younger than him. gay had a back injury and colvin had an arm injury (even though nbc said it was his foot. in football, players get hurt - doesn't mean they're old or they suck.
samuel's interception for a TD was not a gimmie pick. feely was an idiot for trying to go for the kill at the end of the game and 'deserved' to get picked. the neutral zone infraction was terrible. meanwhile moss had ANOTHER phantom offensive pass interference called against him and gostkowski's field goal was actually good despite the missed call by the refs.
more than half of the pats wins - jets, both bills games, miami, cincinnati, redskins and chargers were easy wins (in hindsight). the dallas game was over late-3rd quarter and the colts and eagles were the two toughest games the pats have played so far this year.
i would totally agree. i just laugh when people try to defend peyton and the colts saying "marvin harrison is out" or "dallas clark was hurt" or "tony ugoh this" and "anthony gonzalez that." please. look at what the pats and brady had during the last few years and then appreciate.
you misunderstood what i said about the colts game, the colts were the lucky team there, BUT they did drop a pick that would have ended the game. the eagles certainly would have been lucky to win. and the cowboys had the ball 4th and 1 to start the 4th down 31-24...so it was hardly over late in the 3rd. In fact they were down 38-24 with the ball at the 5 on first down with 9 mins left, again hardly over.
they lost to the jets, and the broncos...they could certainly beat the two best NFC teams, but they lost to the JETS man.
They are without a doubt very inconsistent. Losing to the Jets is nearly inexcusable.
But I think if they lined up against GB they'd win, and against Dallas it would be a fairly evenly matched game.
and the cowboys had the ball 4th and 1 to start the 4th down 31-24...so it was hardly over late in the 3rd. In fact they were down 38-24 with the ball at the 5 on first down with 9 mins left, again hardly over.
we'll just disagree since we're obviously looking at the game through the eyes of fans of different teams, but after scoring a TD with a little less than 5 mins left in the 3rd, the pats outscored the cowboys 24-3 the last 18 mins of the game regardless of where, when and what down the cowboys at the ball at.
I'll give you the fact that they did end on a nice stretch (though the last touch was in the range where most people would have kneeled on the ball, and was part of the impetus for the creation of this thread), but I will agree to disagree with you that the game was over late in the third quarter.
they won't lose another game this year...every god damn time i think they are done they come back....the eagles under andy reid are like chucky from child's play. anyway i can't wait for MNF and the cheap shot we've all been waiting for.
They are without a doubt very inconsistent. Losing to the Jets is nearly inexcusable.
But I think if they lined up against GB they'd win, and against Dallas it would be a fairly evenly matched game.
didnt they just BARELY beat Miami as well?
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This team can win the SuperBowl this year and still not live the spygate thing down.
In the end, the fact of the matter was, that Barry Bonds and Bill Belicheck both knew what they were doing, even after they were told not to, and yet most Pats fans are only willing to look the other way for one, and complain when the other gets brought up...why?
You like the sound of your own voice huh?
Maybe in your eyes.
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.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
anyway i'd rather do that than just get keep getting mad at somebody. the whole point of this board is that we all like Pearl Jam, but we have individual interests and beliefs that can be shared. If you are really bothered so much by what I write then you could ignore me or write something a little deeper to argue back with (that would be fine/fun).
Unfortunately most peeps would rather NOT take the time to explain themselves. I believe they feel a sense of power over another with unexplained oneliners.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I'm not upset.
i don't think you are wrong, but good luck trying to change the minds of the "ya dude!" crowd.
ANYWAY back to the main point of this post, Tom Brady did get decked 5-8 times last night (but no helmet to knee shots), and the Patriots defense got exposed for being generally overrated, and in the middle -downright old- for the first time since the Cowboys game. Now it makes sense why Belicheck keeps running up the score, because his defense is not really transcendent like the offense. Next Monday will be the true test of whether or not a team will bounty him since they are playing the Ravens. Since the Ravens truly have nothing to play for and look to be trailing by 24 early in the second half this could be the week the thread was created for.
Like I've always said "There's a Method to His Madness". Their defense has been weak for the most part all year long so it comes down to how well the offense can score and score as often as they can is a must.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
I wouldn't really say that. Who have the Packers or Cowboys beaten that are decent?
Dallas has beaten the Giants 2x, Dolphins, Bears, Rams, Bills, Vikings, Eagles, Redskins and the Jets and got blown out by the Patriots. Against probable playoff teams they are 2-1 but the Giants really aren't that good.
Green Bay has beaten the Eagles, Giants, Chargers, Vikings 2x, Redskins, Broncos, Chiefs, Panthers and Lions and lost to the Bears.
Their record against probable playoff teams is 3-0 but only the Chargers are a decent team.
I would still put the Colts ahead of either of those teams.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
I'd agree with that, I'd never count out the Colts and their qb Manning.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
In addition to use your logic they have beaten: NO, Ten, Hou, Den, TB, Jax, Car, KC, and Atl, and lost to the Pats (in a shady game slanted in their favor that was never close), and the Chargers. I'm not sure who you rate as probable playoff teams, but I guess the Bux/NO winner, and one of the triumvirate of crappy teams in their division Hou/Jax/Ten will go, and both the Pats and SD. So they are 2-2 against playoff squads, and not at full strength. As such I would turn it around and ask who have the Colts beaten that are decent?
Let's not forget that NE plays in a division that features Miami, the Jets, and the Bills so that's an annual 5-6 wins for free, but they have beaten Dal, Ind, and Cleveland on the road and San Diego at home for solid victories.
The whole point is that good teams get lucky and stay injury free (though the Pats are showing signs of age catching up to them Gay/Colvin/Harrison shuttling in and out last night), and beat the crappy teams on their schedule. Then when faced with stiff competition come through in the clutch and/or get lucky.
Even for as good as the Pats last night they got a pick 6, a pick in the endzone, a terrible offsides on 4th down, and had Feely fall over himself on the first play after the onside kick. Against the Colts they got lucky that the LB dropped a sure pick on the play before they threw deep to Moss, and against the Cowboys staved off a 4th and 1 b/c of a holding call. They still might go 19-0, but it hasn't been as easy as people have made it out to be.
P.S. Since the 'blowout' loss against the Patriots, the Cowboys have added Tank Johnson, Greg Ellis full-time, Terrence Newman at full-strength, and Pete Hunter. A strong argument could be made that as the Colts have been rocked by injury the Cowboys have gotten stronger.
what was shady about the pats/colts game? (other than the fact that ALL the calls went against the pats).
i can't help where the pats are located and other teams are located. and i can't help if the dolphins don't know how to draft and make stupid trades (welker to the pats), or if the jets realized 2-3 years too late that their qb (pennington) sucks or if the bills, well, they should be a better team in my eyes regardless of losman.
if there wasn't expansion the colts would still be in the same division as the pats. imagine a regular season home and away?
and the browns game was at foxboro, not at the browns. the redskins aren't a chump team even though the pats destroyed them. hey, didn't the cowboys seem to have a tough time with them a couple weeks ago?
randall gay is not old. colvin is not all that old either. harrison is but i would take him on the pats over a lot of players 5 years younger than him. gay had a back injury and colvin had an arm injury (even though nbc said it was his foot. in football, players get hurt - doesn't mean they're old or they suck.
samuel's interception for a TD was not a gimmie pick. feely was an idiot for trying to go for the kill at the end of the game and 'deserved' to get picked. the neutral zone infraction was terrible. meanwhile moss had ANOTHER phantom offensive pass interference called against him and gostkowski's field goal was actually good despite the missed call by the refs.
more than half of the pats wins - jets, both bills games, miami, cincinnati, redskins and chargers were easy wins (in hindsight). the dallas game was over late-3rd quarter and the colts and eagles were the two toughest games the pats have played so far this year.
i would totally agree. i just laugh when people try to defend peyton and the colts saying "marvin harrison is out" or "dallas clark was hurt" or "tony ugoh this" and "anthony gonzalez that." please. look at what the pats and brady had during the last few years and then appreciate.
they lost to the jets, and the broncos...they could certainly beat the two best NFC teams, but they lost to the JETS man.
But I think if they lined up against GB they'd win, and against Dallas it would be a fairly evenly matched game.
we'll just disagree since we're obviously looking at the game through the eyes of fans of different teams, but after scoring a TD with a little less than 5 mins left in the 3rd, the pats outscored the cowboys 24-3 the last 18 mins of the game regardless of where, when and what down the cowboys at the ball at.
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didnt they just BARELY beat Miami as well?
Long enough for the clouds to fly me away