Would you send in a player in to intentionally hurt Tom Brady?

bryn_cmbsbryn_cmbs Posts: 407
edited November 2007 in All Encompassing Trip
If you where coaching against the Pats and Belichick had him in the game still throwing the ball trying to run up the score with the Pats already up by 21 or more in the 4th quarter?

I would.
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  • kenshuntkenshunt Posts: 2,863
    If they were running up the score like they did to the redskins i would.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    Why did nobody ever want to do this to Peyton Manning in 2003 and 2004 when he was throwing bombs up 28 in the 4th quarter against the Houstons and Tennessees of the world...or against Steve Young when he was throwing his 6th TD pass against the Chargers in the 4th Q of the SuperBowl with a 24 point lead?
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  • holtzholtz Posts: 509
    If they go for it on 4th down in the 4th quarter like they did against Washington, someone is gonna hit him late, its inevitable.
  • No, I like Brady and don't think he deserves that.... but I would tell my players if they are running out of bounds or chasing a guy out of bounds that they are encouraged to lay the smack down on Belichick and to try to knock him out of that freakin' sweatshirt....

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  • holtz wrote:
    If they go for it on 4th down in the 4th quarter like they did against Washington, someone is gonna hit him late, its inevitable.

    And it will be deserved.
  • are u retarded. running up the score is the most bs thing ive heard of. there is no rule against it. we were in new england during that washington game. we wanted to put on a show that game. the washington coach said that they were the biggest underdog in the NFL at the time. we wanted them to prove it.
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  • are u retarded. running up the score is the most bs thing ive heard of. there is no rule against it. we were in new england during that washington game. we wanted to put on a show that game. the washington coach said that they were the biggest underdog in the NFL at the time. we wanted them to prove it.

    Going on it on 4th down with a 40+ point lead in the 4th is running up the score.
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,143
    the object in football is to score points
    you dont stop until the game is over, no matter what the score

    intentionally hurting someone is bad sportsmanship no matter the reason
  • bryn_cmbs wrote:
    Going on it on 4th down with a 40+ point lead in the 4th is running up the score.

    This is true... I don't have a problem with the Pats actually scoring that many points (and keep scoring after the game is well decided), but when you are going for it on 4th down and keeping your starters in at that point, then don't be surprised if someone takes a cheap shot at someone.

    You would think that they'd want to get Cassel some meaningful reps incase something would happen to Brady... that is a great team with depth just about anywhere, but if Brady went down, they can kiss their season goodbye. That's why keeping him in in the 4th quarter up by 40 points is the stupidest, most arrogant thing that you can do.
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  • Get_Right wrote:
    the object in football is to score points
    you dont stop until the game is over, no matter what the score

    intentionally hurting someone is bad sportsmanship no matter the reason
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  • Get_Right wrote:
    the object in football is to score points
    you dont stop until the game is over, no matter what the score

    intentionally hurting someone is bad sportsmanship no matter the reason

    So is leaving in your starters and going for it on 4th down when you are up 40.
  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    Poncier wrote:
    Why did nobody ever want to do this to Peyton Manning in 2003 and 2004 when he was throwing bombs up 28 in the 4th quarter against the Houstons and Tennessees of the world...or against Steve Young when he was throwing his 6th TD pass against the Chargers in the 4th Q of the SuperBowl with a 24 point lead?

    Steve Young was actually saying the Pats were running up the score on the pregame a few weeks ago. He thought it was wrong for the NFL

    I guess his memory is real bad.
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  • tybirdtybird Posts: 17,388
    bryn_cmbs wrote:
    Going on it on 4th down with a 40+ point lead in the 4th is running up the score.
    On that particular play, they were damned if they do, damned if they don't.....they were in field goal range....kick a field goal, you're running up the score....go for it, you're running up the score.
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  • tybird wrote:
    On that particular play, they were damned if they do, damned if they don't.....they were in field goal range....kick a field goal, you're running up the score....go for it, you're running up the score.


    That doen't negate the fact that the starters wher STILL IN THE GAME
  • Get_RightGet_Right Posts: 13,143
    bryn_cmbs wrote:
    So is leaving in your starters and going for it on 4th down when you are up 40.

    I disagree with that-perhaps at the pop warner and high school level its unsportsmanlike, but not in the college or the pros.

    I would say its bad coaching though, why risk injury to a starter.

    But that brings me back to my original point, you dont stop until the game is over.
  • inmyrvminmyrvm Posts: 933
    absolutley. i would then send him after belicheat.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    i do like brady,,, but because his coach is a dope ,,yes i would
  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    bryn_cmbs wrote:
    Going on it on 4th down with a 40+ point lead in the 4th is running up the score.

    Alright what did you want him to do kick a field goal???

    Punt when they were on 7 yard line???

    Go to a knee with 11 minutes to go in the game???
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Alright what did you want him to do kick a field goal???

    Punt when they were on 7 yard line???

    Go to a knee with 11 minutes to go in the game???


    take a knee when up by 5-6 touchdowns
  • DanimalDanimal Posts: 2,000
    bryn_cmbs wrote:
    If you where coaching against the Pats and Belichick had him in the game still throwing the ball trying to run up the score with the Pats already up by 21 or more in the 4th quarter?

    I would.


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  • DerrickDerrick Posts: 475
    Behind the line of scrimmage, hit a QB like you would a kicker. They are put into a vulnerable position due to their role. So sack them, but don't maim them.

    Ahead of the line of scrimmage, hit him like you would hit a running back.

    I didn't like Joe Montana all that much, but I still can see that Giants lineman (Leonard Marshall) putting his helmet into the middle of Joe's back at full power. Joe came back eventually but that dirty hit ended his "legendary" days.

    I know a lot of folks don't like Brady for one reason or another, but once you start hinting at personal injury as a punishment for a personal insult, you need to check yourself into the local psychiatry clinic.
  • Danimal wrote:
    BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!

    Who's gonna get through that line?

    I'd send some over-weight scrub off the end of the bench and give him a cheap shot after the play is over. Roll over his knees.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    take a knee when up by 5-6 touchdowns
    At that time of the game, taking a knee is insulting your opponent, and kicking a FG is running up the score.
    If you are in a position on the field where a punt is not an option, you go for it and give the opposing D the opportunity to stop you.
    Every, yes every, football coach, even the clueless Eric Mangini knows and understands this. Gibbs did not complain about what transpired, just some media folk who dislike Bill Belichick because he is not a warm fuzzy interview, and has snubbed many media members in the past.
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  • gregkitefangregkitefan Posts: 1,115
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    take a knee when up by 5-6 touchdowns


    Have you ever seen a game where anyone takes a knee with 11 minutes to go?

    I haven't and I have been watching football for over 30 years.
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  • tybird wrote:
    On that particular play, they were damned if they do, damned if they don't.....they were in field goal range....kick a field goal, you're running up the score....go for it, you're running up the score.

    I don't see kicking a field goal as running up the score... they were in field goal range on 4th down, just kick the ball and go about your business.

    I don't think they should kneel 3 times and punt the entire 4th quarter, but to go for it on 4th down, just so you can try to score a touchdown is low class in my opinion.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    Have you ever seen a game where anyone takes a knee with 11 minutes to go?

    I haven't and I have been watching football for over 30 years.


    no but we might see a game where someone takes brady's knee and crushes it lol
  • bryn_cmbs wrote:
    If you where coaching against the Pats and Belichick had him in the game still throwing the ball trying to run up the score....

    I would.

    If that guy doesn't cross the street faster I am speeding up to hit him.

    My last sentence makes as much sense as your "I would".
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  • senninsennin Posts: 2,146
    Have you ever seen a game where anyone takes a knee with 11 minutes to go?

    I haven't and I have been watching football for over 30 years.

    No, that's when you run the ball. Going down field when you're up buy 30 with ten minutes to go, is not a good idea. 1, you could throw a pick, 2, the clock doesn't keep running, 3, it's in poor taste.
  • NY PJ1 wrote:
    no but we might see a game where someone takes brady's knee and crushes it lol

    Might be this Sunday against the Biils, they owe NE one anyway.
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    I don't see kicking a field goal as running up the score... they were in field goal range on 4th down, just kick the ball and go about your business.

    I don't think they should kneel 3 times and punt the entire 4th quarter, but to go for it on 4th down, just so you can try to score a touchdown is low class in my opinion.
    Football coaches find kicking a FG in a game out of reach to be running up the score, because their team has no real opportunity to prevent those points, whereas when a team runs on 4th down, the defense has a chance to stop them. All coaches on the defensive side would prefer the offense go for it in that case, and a field goal would be considered a slap in the face.
    That is the way it is in coaching circles. It amazes me that so many of the "experts" in the media and on ESPN are so clueless and up in arms still about this 3 weeks later.
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