Would you send in a player in to intentionally hurt Tom Brady?

Character Zero

I think if you pay millions of dollars to defensive players to stop teams from scoring points they should shut their whinny fucking mouths when they can't do it. Simple concept: Put up or Shut up.

and on the other side, you are paying Tom Brady and co. Millions to score points not ride the fucking pine.

These are grown men who have been competing in sports their entire lives, if they can't handle defeat they are in the wrong business. They are not children who need to be coddled.

And for the record. I fucking hate the Patriots with a passion.

josevolution

you know what if the rest of the league is not as good as the pats too bad i say they should score as many points as they wan't to, or as many as the opposing team will give up fmmm i'm not a pats fan but at least i can watch a team play on all cylinders and admire it. i hope they beat every other team by 50 points the rest of the way ,there is no crying in football ....

Strangest Tribe

Poncier wrote:

Just a couple of example I already stated:


So its OK for a nice farm boy like Peyton to throw bombs with huge leads in pursuit of Dan Marino's record (it was a weekly occurrence), and its OK for Steve Young to embarass the Chargers so he can throw 6 TD's in a Super Bowl and get out of the shadow of Joe Montana's 5 TD's in Super Bowl XXIV (the exact reason he threw the 6th TD and then symbolically had the "monkey wiped off his back").
But because Tom Brady dates super models and likely has made your team look bad, he "needs his teeth knocked out"?

No these weren't "ok" either, but I don't remember Dungy going for it on 4th down with the huge leads, that's what's so classless. Period. AND Indy still had a running game in that season. Where's NE running game?

And the other example is the Superbowl. Usually Superbowls are blowouts anyway.

They haven't played my team yet.....GB

mammasan

Character Zero wrote:

I think if you pay millions of dollars to defensive players to stop teams from scoring points they should shut their whinny fucking mouths when they can't do it. Simple concept: Put up or Shut up.

and on the other side, you are paying Tom Brady and co. Millions to score points not ride the fucking pine.

These are grown men who have been competing in sports their entire lives, if they can't handle defeat they are in the wrong business. They are not children who need to be coddled.

And for the record. I fucking hate the Patriots with a passion.

I couldn't agree more. Why should a team, in this case the Pats, lower their standard of play simply because the other team's defense can't stop them.

Also for the record I am a Jets fan and I can't fucking stand the Patriots.

Poncier

Strangest Tribe wrote:

They haven't played my team yet.....GB

Still stinging from last year's 35-0 embarassment at Lambeau?

Strangest Tribe

I'm just sayin....

Karma is a bitch...and yes the Pats ARE runnin the score up no doubt.

Is there anything wrong with it???? NO there isn't anything wrong with it.

Nobody seems to be able to stop them.

I don't really want to see Brady get hurt either, and it may not be Brady that gets hurt, I'm sure there are some DB's ready to punish Moss or Stallworth or Welker.

Really if you are a Pats fan though, you shouldn't be getting so excited about seeing your teams crush their opponents every week. Lots of teams are going to start headhunting and they still have to play Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

NE really needs to stop going for it on 4th down with such a huge lead...go ahead and kick the FG but it's rubbing salt in the wound by going for another passing TD so late in the game with such a lead....totally classless

JSBE

ryan198 wrote:

I never said that the score should be 17-14 every week I just don't like players that play on teams I don't like. I don't like the Patriots, I don't like the Colts, and I don't like the 49ers, and part of it is the fact that their QBs are not that fun for me to watch. I understand that they are/were very good at their profession, but their excitment seems contrived to me...like the game isn't actually fun for them. I don't like Favre but I'm pretty sure that he actually likes what he does, same with Vince Young, Vick was fun to watch when he was playing. So anyway, yes I do watch football, I just don't enjoy the way particular players play the game.

so steve young, manning and brady don't have fun when they're playing? i sure see a damn lot of smiles coming from brady on the sideline after the pats score a TD.

so you don't like brett favre either. besides the dog killer vick, what QBs do you like?

it sounds like you should stick with college football if all you want is tons of fun, hugs and smiles all around.

binauralonthecape

everyone here is just jealous that the pats are great and nobody is going to come close to beating them, so stop with the running up the score whining, if the other teams could stop them, they wouldnt be running up the score..

JSBE

Strangest Tribe wrote:

I'm just sayin....

Karma is a bitch...and yes the Pats ARE runnin the score up no doubt.

Is there anything wrong with it???? NO there isn't anything wrong with it.

Nobody seems to be able to stop them.

I don't really want to see Brady get hurt either, and it may not be Brady that gets hurt, I'm sure there are some DB's ready to punish Moss or Stallworth or Welker.

Really if you are a Pats fan though, you shouldn't be getting so excited about seeing your teams crush their opponents every week. Lots of teams are going to start headhunting and they still have to play Baltimore and Pittsburgh.

NE really needs to stop going for it on 4th down with such a huge lead...go ahead and kick the FG but it's rubbing salt in the wound by going for another passing TD so late in the game with such a lead....totally classless

the pats play hard for the full game (ie - 60 minutes). they do not let-up. i still don't understand how kicking a field goal is better than a TD. up by whatever, if you have 4th and 1 inside 10-15 yards, you go for it.

i can say this until i am blue in the face.

http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

i like your sig strangest tribe.

binauralonthecape

all of this running up the score shit stems from liberalism its so sickening i cant stand it, all you liberals out there want to see every game be close so everyone feels good about themselves and we can all smile, and then everyone can get a participation trophy at the end of the season so everyone feels like a winner!!!

pjhawks

I don't think it's a coaches responsibility to tell a player to go after someone. That's just wrong and totally against the spirt of the game. On the other hand if I was a player I might feel compelled to start something (a la the NHL) if I felt the Pats were running it up on me. I don't think you go after someone to hurt them intentionally but you might give them an extra shot or a good punch in the mouth.

Strangest Tribe

JSBE wrote:

the pats play hard for the full game (ie - 60 minutes). they do not let-up. i still don't understand how kicking a field goal is better than a TD. up by whatever, if you have 4th and 1 inside 10-15 yards, you go for it.

i can say this until i am blue in the face.

http://blogs.amnestyusa.org/pub/amnestyusa/death-penalty/beating-a-dead-horse.gif

i like your sig strangest tribe.

for the record...I'm a sorta Pats fan, I've pulled for them in the past just never against the Packers.

I just believe there are some things you don't do with a huge lead late in the game. One of them is go ahead and take your FG and not go for it on 4th.

You don't steal bases in baseball with a huge lead.
You don't shoot 3pt shots in basketball with a huge lead.
You don't play for the breakaway in hockey with a huge lead.

Embarrassing other teams can bite you in the ass.

When far superior teams are ahead they usually play ball control in any sport. If you don't you are simply setting yourself up for a serious fall.

Strangest Tribe

Poncier wrote:

Still stinging from last year's 35-0 embarassment at Lambeau?

Yeah that hurt, but GB wasn't a playoff team then. And we still are 1-0 against the Pats in the Superbowl.

JSBE

binauralonthecape wrote:

all of this running up the score shit stems from liberalism its so sickening i cant stand it, all you liberals out there want to see every game be close so everyone feels good about themselves and we can all smile, and then everyone can get a participation trophy at the end of the season so everyone feels like a winner!!!

i'm as liberal as they come and i have no problem with what the pats are doing. i just think that some fans of other teams are either jealous that their team isn't as good as the pats or they just hate the pats now because it is cool. maybe ed thinks the pats aren't cool and that's why so many hate?

Poncier

Strangest Tribe wrote:

And we still are 1-0 against the Pats in the Superbowl.

I honestly hope the Pats get a shot to avenge that this February.
I think Brady vs Favre would be quite a good show.

JSBE

Strangest Tribe wrote:

for the record...I'm a sorta Pats fan, I've pulled for them in the past just never against the Packers.

I just believe there are some things you don't do with a huge lead late in the game. One of them is go ahead and take your FG and not go for it on 4th.

You don't steal bases in baseball with a huge lead.
You don't shoot 3pt shots in basketball with a huge lead.
You don't play for the breakaway in hockey with a huge lead.

Embarrassing other teams can bite you in the ass.

When far superior teams are ahead they usually play ball control in any sport. If you don't you are simply setting yourself up for a serious fall.

you can't be a fan of two teams because ultimately they'll meet and you'll have to "sorta" not be a fan.

i disagree with the base stealing thing because baseball has changed so much since that "unwritten" rule went in effect. teams can come back from a big deficit real fast on a shaky bullpen.

i still don't get why people can't grasp that the opposing coaches have come out an publicly stated that the PATS ARE NOT RUNNING THE SCORE UP. you people are just being spoon fed what some espn talking head decides is a good thing to make into an "argument"

JSBE

pjhawks wrote:

I don't think it's a coaches responsibility to tell a player to go after someone. That's just wrong and totally against the spirt of the game. On the other hand if I was a player I might feel compelled to start something (a la the NHL) if I felt the Pats were running it up on me. I don't think you go after someone to hurt them intentionally but you might give them an extra shot or a good punch in the mouth.

yeah, because the player making up their mind to "go after" another player is totally in sync with the spirit of the game.

Strangest Tribe

binauralonthecape wrote:

all of this running up the score shit stems from liberalism its so sickening i cant stand it, all you liberals out there want to see every game be close so everyone feels good about themselves and we can all smile, and then everyone can get a participation trophy at the end of the season so everyone feels like a winner!!!

Please don't....no more politics please. I think anyone that makes a million dollars a year should feel like a winner anyway so let's just have fun and talk sports.

Part of the fun is disagreeing anyway.

jimed14

JSBE wrote:

you can't be a fan of two teams because ultimately they'll meet and you'll have to "sorta" not be a fan.

i disagree with the base stealing thing because baseball has changed so much since that "unwritten" rule went in effect. teams can come back from a big deficit real fast on a shaky bullpen.

i still don't get why people can't grasp that the opposing coaches have come out an publicly stated that the PATS ARE NOT RUNNING THE SCORE UP. you people are just being spoon fed what some espn talking head decides is a good thing to make into an "argument"

Aagree with all points here, read my points in the Pats thread ... the only people whining about running up teh score are the media and whiny fans of teams who stink ... Dick Jauron wasn't offended. Chris Cooley wasn't offended.

It's about being perfect an continuously improving ... not about running up the score. People who don't understand are destined to watch their team lose late in the 4th quarter of some game eventually. How much did that PLAY 60 MINUTES mantra help them with their come back against the Colts???

Strangest Tribe

JSBE wrote:

you can't be a fan of two teams because ultimately they'll meet and you'll have to "sorta" not be a fan.

i disagree with the base stealing thing because baseball has changed so much since that "unwritten" rule went in effect. teams can come back from a big deficit real fast on a shaky bullpen.

i still don't get why people can't grasp that the opposing coaches have come out an publicly stated that the PATS ARE NOT RUNNING THE SCORE UP. you people are just being spoon fed what some espn talking head decides is a good thing to make into an "argument"

man... I gotta have a stable of fav teams just to make the season enjoyable. I have my very favorite teams in all sports and it finally looks like a good year for the Celtics.

But since the Celtics have sucked for over 20 years, I've found myself pulling for other teams. Though I still pull for the Celts, I have found some other teams I like marginally less.

Same with football. Baseball.Hockey.

I made the running the score up decision myself. I don't like the opinionated sportscasters too much. I like Chris Berman and Tom Jackson. But I don't go for the PTI guys and the Around-the-horn bunch either. I can pretty much form my own opinions.