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NY PJ1

rearviewmiror wrote:

Don't the yamks need to change those 26-6 tshirts now? It's gotta be embarassing. They are never adding one to their tally.

Year 2000 clap clap clap-clap-clap

the 26-7 are already in the stores

we can make those for the next 19 years lol

rearviewmiror

wow, didn't people used to say it was only the sox who cared.

btw, love the Sharks sig.

locked

can't we all just hate the National League like the old days?

ryan198

locked wrote:

can't we all just hate the National League like the old days?

watch it...i need you guys to get Santana so the Twins give up this year and trade Joe Nathan to them for a few of our propects (Gwynn/Hall at CF for Nathan and taking on his contract sounds about right).

JSBE

ryan198 wrote:

watch it...i need you guys to get Santana so the Twins give up this year and trade Joe Nathan to them for a few of our propects (Gwynn/Hall at CF for Nathan and taking on his contract sounds about right).

if the twins trade santana to the red sox they will get a CF (either crisp or ellsbury) and they just got delmon young from the rays...why would they want gwynn and hall (i'm guessing you are talking about bill hall, super utility man)?

Poncier

NY PJ1 wrote:

but we made it 6 x in 8 years ,,,good luck

So the Yanks' fans count losing as success?

ryan198

JSBE wrote:

if the twins trade santana to the red sox they will get a CF (either crisp or ellsbury) and they just got delmon young from the rays...why would they want gwynn and hall (i'm guessing you are talking about bill hall, super utility man)?

yeah yeah i forgot to mention the brewers...the twins will have other needs which is why i mentioned super utility man (the kind that hits 30 HRs over the course of a season), or another young OF...what else will the twins need, b/c they will look to unload Nathan if they get rid of Santana.

LOVEBOATCAPT0226

I hope we don't get Santana, 6 yrs at 150 million is ridiculous. Let's jack the price up to screw the Yankees, then pull off a trade for Dan Haren. Haren had better numbers last year and we wouldn't have to give up as much.

Hartydog

ryan198 wrote:

yeah yeah i forgot to mention the brewers...the twins will have other needs which is why i mentioned super utility man (the kind that hits 30 HRs over the course of a season), or another young OF...what else will the twins need, b/c they will look to unload Nathan if they get rid of Santana.

You mean 30 National League home runs right? because there is a difference

ryan198

Hartydog wrote:

You mean 30 National League home runs right? because there is a difference

30 NL homeruns is different b/c in the NL pitching numbers tend to be better and hitting numbers worse. You can't have it both ways that the AL Pitching AND Hitting is better...remember you have a glorified softball player in Ortiz playing an offensive spot known as Hitter.

NY PJ1

Poncier wrote:

So the Yanks' fans count losing as success?

its still impressive to get there

plus we lost one in the bottom of the 9th game 7

point being we were on the brink 6 x in 8 years and won 4

hard to repeat that

p.s. we won 4 out of 5 years which the sox cant do
actually i doubt any team will

Poncier

NY PJ1 wrote:

p.s. we won 4 out of 5 years which the sox cant do
actually i doubt any team will

Why can't they do that?
If they get Santana, they could win 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 in theory which would be 4 years straight.

NY PJ1

Poncier wrote:

Why can't they do that?
If they get Santana, they could win 2007, 2008, 2009 and 2010 in theory which would be 4 years straight.

GOOD LUCK WITH THAT

i dont care if jesus christ was on your team lol

tough to do

Drop The Leash 10

let santana go to the yanks. the sox hit him great as it is. why not hit him better in new york

rearviewmiror

Yeah, I'd take Haren too. I hope the Yanks pay throught the nose for Santana at this point.

Oh, and the pitching is better in the American League. Their stats are worse due to the better hitters and the DH, but that doesn't mean the talent isnt there.

See any NL pitcher who comes over after doing well in the NL and gets waxed by the AL.

Champagne Breakfast

Seriously,,...u think the sox really need to make a move for a pitcher like this?
If I were them I would not mess with a thing. Especially with the young prospects and talent they have coming up. Why mix and mess with something that seemed to be perfect last year?

rearviewmiror

Well, I'd rather see the Yanks get him at this point as they lose some of their stud prospects.

JSBE

you people (red sox fans) are high. i am a sox fan and sure, i love jacoby ellsbury as much as everyone else does and i think that jed lowrie as well as bowden and/or masterson (or any other minor league prospect) has the potential to be above average mlb players but.....

johan santana is a 2 time cy young winning, left handed throwing, top of the rotation, league strikeout leading, #1 pitcher in the prime of his career who, by the way, is only 28 years old.

i don't see a trade getting done if the sox are only offering up ellsbury without lester or buchholz though. and i wouldn't do an ellsbury, lester and a prospect trade.

JSBE

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20071203&content_id=2316004&vkey=hotstove2007&fext=.jsp

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- The Johan Santana watch continued Monday afternoon at the Gaylord Opryland Resort & Convention Center with no resolution in sight.

The future of the Minnesota Twins ace has become the talk of the 2007 Winter Meetings, and while no deal appears imminent, one potential suitor has dropped out of the race.

A high-ranking American League official confirmed to MLB.com Monday morning that the Mariners were no longer in discussions for the two-time Cy Young Award winner.

While the Mariners are the first team to officially pull out of the Santana hunt, the list of interested parties still includes the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels and Mets. But the race appears to be a battle between the Yankees and the Red Sox.

The bidding war between the two clubs could come to an end as early as Monday with the Yankees setting a deadline for their offer to expire. Yankees senior vice president Hank Steinbrenner told The Associated Press on Sunday that he felt the Twins were playing his club against the Red Sox, and that the Yankees could pull out if the Twins don't agree to a package that is believed to include Phil Hughes, Melky Cabrera and a mid-level prospect.

"This is not an act," Steinbrenner said. "It's not a bluff. It's just reality.

"Because as much as I want Santana, and you can make that clear -- for his sake, to know that I do want him -- but the fact is that I'm not going to play the game."

The feeling by many baseball insiders is that the Twins will indeed trade Santana. But even with the deadline supposedly set, the Twins don't appear to be feeling the pressure.

Indications from club sources are the team is in no rush to make a deal if they don't feel it's the one it wants.

Offers from both New York and Boston have had pieces that the Twins seem to covet but not the entire package. The Twins like Red Sox center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury and pitcher Jon Lester, but Boston officials have indicated they will part with one or the other, not both. The Yankees have also reportedly refused to include top prospects Ian Kennedy or Austin Jackson in the same package as Hughes and Cabrera.

Even reports that Santana might not waive his no-trade clause after the start of the '08 season haven't appeared to increase the club's urgency. But whether the deadline or the potential of Santana to nix a deal will change the Twins' outlook by the end of the day is the big question in Nashville. And its answer is being eagerly anticipated by the entire league.

nothingman44

alot fo people here cacn attest to my love for the red sox...

i dont want santana if we have to give up elsbury for him. yes, santana is one of the best pitchers in the game, but the sox rotation did fine without him last year, and elsbury has the makings of a superstar.