Boston Red Sox

BinauralJam

FenwayFaithful wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

Laugh it up dude. Little Joshy Beckett and Jeremy Spoken come back off the DL tonight, with Vicky Martinez and Laser Show in the next 2 weeks. Then you guys are all done. I'm keeping the faith. We'll see your ass in October!

ya on t.v.

Cliffy6745

FenwayFaithful wrote:

neilybabes86 wrote:

Laugh it up dude. Little Joshy Beckett and Jeremy Spoken come back off the DL tonight, with Vicky Martinez and Laser Show in the next 2 weeks. Then you guys are all done. I'm keeping the faith. We'll see your ass in October!

Just so you are aware

How MLB Playoffs Work

Eight teams make the playoffs – four each in the American and National Leagues. The three division champs and one wild card – the team with the best record that does not win a division – qualify for the postseason.

http://baseball.about.com/od/seasonstru ... format.htm

FenwayFaithful

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Just so you are aware

How MLB Playoffs Work

Eight teams make the playoffs – four each in the American and National Leagues. The three division champs and one wild card – the team with the best record that does not win a division – qualify for the postseason.

http://baseball.about.com/od/seasonstru ... format.htm

Really? Is that how it works? Jeez, I had no idea. How did that work out in 2004 Cliffy?

All purse-slapping aside, the Yankees are in big trouble with their pitching staff right now. I don't read all of your comments on the Yankee thread, but I know you guys must be at least a little concerned about Andy, Burnett and Vazquez. Where's all the Phil Hughes Cy Young talk now? I have no doubt Tampa will be the odd man out. And yes, I would be worried if I were the Yankees about the Sox coming back from the dead and winning the division, finishing the job in the ALCS.

Cliffy6745

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

Just so you are aware

How MLB Playoffs Work

Eight teams make the playoffs – four each in the American and National Leagues. The three division champs and one wild card – the team with the best record that does not win a division – qualify for the postseason.

http://baseball.about.com/od/seasonstru ... format.htm

Really? Is that how it works? Jeez, I had no idea. How did that work out in 2004 Cliffy?

All purse-slapping aside, the Yankees are in big trouble with their pitching staff right now. I don't read all of your comments on the Yankee thread, but I know you guys must be at least a little concerned about Andy, Burnett and Vazquez. Where's all the Phil Hughes Cy Young talk now? I have no doubt Tampa will be the odd man out. And yes, I would be worried if I were the Yankees about the Sox coming back from the dead and winning the division, finishing the job in the ALCS.

I am not too concerned as long as Pettitte can come back healthy. Hughes will go to the pen and be fine. He is 24 years old, they have rough patches. Burnett needs to get his shit together but I am not real concerned with any of the others. Remember how they won last year. The staff is much deeper this year.

Plus the Yanks are apparantly in on the Haren talks, which I don't think I like but CC, Haren, Burnett, Pettitte, Javy would be pretty good.

FenwayFaithful

CC, Haren, Burnett, Andy and Javy? Pretty solid. However, is that better than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bucchhhccchholz and Dice? I don't think so.

Cliffy6745

FenwayFaithful wrote:

CC, Haren, Burnett, Andy and Javy? Pretty solid. However, is that better than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bucchhhccchholz and Dice? I don't think so.

Um, how is that pitching staff working out for you this year?

FenwayFaithful

Cliffy6745 wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

CC, Haren, Burnett, Andy and Javy? Pretty solid. However, is that better than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bucchhhccchholz and Dice? I don't think so.

Um, how is that pitching staff working out for you this year?

Dude, have you not been paying attention? Three of the 5 have missed extended periods. We have lost 6 of our starting 9 position players for extended periods. I love it how the Yankees fans still don't get this. Not just you Cliffy, but my two buddies who are Yankee fans. Congrats, your 7 games up on a triple A team right now.

Cliffy6745

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

CC, Haren, Burnett, Andy and Javy? Pretty solid. However, is that better than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bucchhhccchholz and Dice? I don't think so.

Um, how is that pitching staff working out for you this year?

Dude, have you not been paying attention? Three of the 5 have missed extended periods. We have lost 6 of our starting 9 position players for extended periods. I love it how the Yankees fans still don't get this. Not just you Cliffy, but my two buddies who are Yankee fans. Congrats, your 7 games up on a triple A team right now.

I got that and honestly, I have been paying a lot more attention to Tampa recently for obvious reasons . Lackey has more walks already then he did all of last year. No one is scared of Dice-K, and do you know what you are going to get out of Beckett?

BinauralJam

FenwayFaithful wrote:

Cliffy6745 wrote:

FenwayFaithful wrote:

CC, Haren, Burnett, Andy and Javy? Pretty solid. However, is that better than Lester, Beckett, Lackey, Bucchhhccchholz and Dice? I don't think so.

Um, how is that pitching staff working out for you this year?

Dude, have you not been paying attention? Three of the 5 have missed extended periods. We have lost 6 of our starting 9 position players for extended periods. I love it how the Yankees fans still don't get this. Not just you Cliffy, but my two buddies who are Yankee fans. Congrats, your 7 games up on a triple A team right now.

And don't you forget it!

FenwayFaithful

I understand the faulty nature of Lackey this season, and I know nobody is scared of Dice, but he's won big games in the playoffs before, so I don't think he should be overlooked. You're right, we don't know what we'll get from Joshy, we'll have a better idea after tonight, but this kid has always been big and I expect him to have 11-12 strong starts before October. Buccholz is a question mark but he's clearly entered a new level this year. And Lester, well...nobody can say anything bad about Lester. He is the rock.

FenwayFaithful

All due respect Cliffy, of course. At least you offer some thoughtful analysis when poaching the Sox thread.

It would be shortsighted of Yankee fans to dismiss the Sox with 2 months left. You'd think 2004 would serve as a lesson to NEVER overlook us.

Cliffy6745

FenwayFaithful wrote:

I understand the faulty nature of Lackey this season, and I know nobody is scared of Dice, but he's won big games in the playoffs before, so I don't think he should be overlooked. You're right, we don't know what we'll get from Joshy, we'll have a better idea after tonight, but this kid has always been big and I expect him to have 11-12 strong starts before October. Buccholz is a question mark but he's clearly entered a new level this year. And Lester, well...nobody can say anything bad about Lester. He is the rock.

I personally think Lester might be the best pitcher in baseball, not a stretch but I would take him over anyone not named Felix I think. They are all capable of pitching a big game but you guys need some more consistency. Beckett could be a huge help but it's no sure thing. You guys have been killed with injuries this year, no doubt.

Cliffy6745

FenwayFaithful wrote:

All due respect Cliffy, of course. At least you offer some thoughtful analysis when poaching the Sox thread.

It would be shortsighted of Yankee fans to dismiss the Sox with 2 months left. You'd think 2004 would serve as a lesson to NEVER overlook us.

I am not dismissing the Red Sox at all but 7 games is a lot to make up on a team like the Yanks in 2 months, Rays are the team you guys are chasing. If they get to the playoffs we wont see each other till the ALCS so there is a long ways.

BinauralJam

FenwayFaithful wrote:

All due respect Cliffy, of course. At least you offer some thoughtful analysis when poaching the Sox thread.

It would be shortsighted of Yankee fans to dismiss the Sox with 2 months left. You'd think 2004 would serve as a lesson to NEVER overlook us.

:( , ok how's this for analysis, sometimes it's your year and sometimes it aint, all these injuries is god's way of saying, it aint your year. Same thing happened to the Yanks in '08, all you can do is batten down the hatches and wait for next year. And then good things will come.

FenwayFaithful

KOYOURASS wrote:

:( , ok how's this for analysis, sometimes it's your year and sometimes it aint, all these injuries is god's way of saying, it aint your year. Same thing happened to the Yanks in '08, all you can do is batten down the hatches and wait for next year. And then good things will come.

I hear ya. I respectfully disagree.

Cliffy6745 wrote:

I am not dismissing the Red Sox at all but 7 games is a lot to make up on a team like the Yanks in 2 months, Rays are the team you guys are chasing. If they get to the playoffs we wont see each other till the ALCS so there is a long ways.

7 games is not that much with so many head-to-head series remaining. That's half the deficit the Yankees overcame in 78 to beat the Sox. :( Sad but true.

gregkitefan

Come on Fenway you can't talk about the Yankees until they catch the Rays.
The Sox are three games behind the Rays right now...that is the team they worry about.
They are 3 and 2 on this west coast trip and Lester is going today.
Take it one game at a time.

I wish Kevin Cash would just strike out in three pitchers instead of trying to hit...double plays really hurt.
....and Bill Hall can hit, but should never play 2nd base or SS again this year.

FenwayFaithful

gregkitefan wrote:

Come on Fenway you can't talk about the Yankees until they catch the Rays.
The Sox are three games behind the Rays right now...that is the team they worry about.
They are 3 and 2 on this west coast trip and Lester is going today.
Take it one game at a time.

I wish Kevin Cash would just strike out in three pitchers instead of trying to hit...double plays really hurt.
....and Bill Hall can hit, but should never play 2nd base or SS again this year.

Okay, okay. Fair enough. Sometimes I have grand illusions about how good this team really is (or can be). But shit, I needed to stir the pot somehow. This thread was on page 4! We are better than that, Greg Kite. And we're not about to roll over to some so-called Empire. Also, you read my mind with the Kevin Cash thing. He is just super-awful. We need Vic back STAT!

Get_Right

sox have a great team
but injuries have killed them
they are lucky to be where they are-while the rays and yanks are just getting better as the season rolls on
Im afraid there will be no playoff baseball in boston this year

FenwayFaithful

DAMN YOU OKIE!!!!!!!!!!

BinauralJam

FenwayFaithful wrote:

DAMN YOU OKIE!!!!!!!!!!

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