The BCS will be fun this year

MookieBlaylock5v1

There's something a little wrong with Georgia being #4 in the BCS even though they are NOT playing in the SEC championship game!

Ohio State moves up to #3 in the BCS this week and has the insider's shot at slipping into the national title game if either Mizzou or West Virginia loses this weekend.

soulsinging

MookieBlaylock5v1 wrote:

There's something a little wrong with Georgia being #4 in the BCS even though they are NOT playing in the SEC championship game!

Ohio State moves up to #3 in the BCS this week and has the insider's shot at slipping into the national title game if either Mizzou or West Virginia loses this weekend.

yeah, i caught that too. kinda crazy that they're the highest ranked sec team but are not in the sec title game. but that's the way it goes i guess. i have to say, they look like the scariest team in the sec these days though, without doubt.

Solat13

Well, it looks like Hawaii snuck into the BCS with a big win over Boise setting up a Sugar Bowl of Hawaii and LSU.

tybird

Please God....anybody but that fraud of team called Ohio State in the BSC title game....

thunderDAN

tybird wrote:

Please God....anybody but that fraud of team called Ohio State in the BSC title game....

"fraud"- The most first round draft picks of any University (66). 7 Heisman Trophies, and 5 National Titles. 5-1 in BCS games. Most BCS apperences since the formation of the BCS. 128 All-Americans


West Virgina- No National titles, No Heisman winners, one BCS apperence, 11 All-Americans, 3 first round draft picks.


Missouri- No National Titles, No Heisman Winners, No BCS apperences, one first round draft pick, 26 All Americans, 5 first round draft picks.


All things considered I think the frauds look pretty good compaired to the legitimate teams on the list.

soulsinging

tybird wrote:

Please God....anybody but that fraud of team called Ohio State in the BSC title game....

i like how ohio state loses one national championship game to an incredible florida team and they are suddenly "a fraud." it isn't their fault the hype machine went into overdrive last season. the big ten is weak this season, so what? this was supposed to be ohio state's rebuilding year and they dominated. nobody picked them higher than 3rd in their conference. shit, hawaii couldn't get a major player to take them on. who is going to volunteer to play ohio state? ps... they played texas 2 years in a row and play usc the next few. they're hardly slacking on scheduling. this is just an off year. and their one loss came to a team that almost beat the vaunted mizzou in the first game of the season. but i suppose it's hard to remember such trivialities... we know how you southerners aren't fond of thinking.

dg1979us

soulsinging wrote:

i like how ohio state loses one national championship game to an incredible florida team and they are suddenly "a fraud." it isn't their fault the hype machine went into overdrive last season. the big ten is weak this season, so what? this was supposed to be ohio state's rebuilding year and they dominated. nobody picked them higher than 3rd in their conference. shit, hawaii couldn't get a major player to take them on. who is going to volunteer to play ohio state? ps... they played texas 2 years in a row and play usc the next few. they're hardly slacking on scheduling. this is just an off year. and their one loss came to a team that almost beat the vaunted mizzou in the first game of the season. but i suppose it's hard to remember such trivialities... we know how you southerners aren't fond of thinking.

The whole big ten is down, and because of that, its hard to gage how good OSU really is this year. I certainly wouldnt call them a fraud, but I cant say I think they are the second or 3rd best team in the country either. And in saying that, Mizzou isnt one of the best 2 or 3 teams int he country either. The BCS system is probably going to produce a national champion this year, that might not realistically even be one of the 5 best teams in the country. But thats an opinion and we will have to see how it plays out.

soulsinging

dg1979us wrote:

The whole big ten is down, and because of that, its hard to gage how good OSU really is this year. I certainly wouldnt call them a fraud, but I cant say I think they are the second or 3rd best team in the country either. And in saying that, Mizzou isnt one of the best 2 or 3 teams int he country either. The BCS system is probably going to produce a national champion this year, that might not realistically even be one of the 5 best teams in the country. But thats an opinion and we will have to see how it plays out.

i agree 100%. i think wvu-mizzou will be a great game, but there's no way i'd agree that the winner is indisputably the best team in the country. and ohio state may or may not be for real. who knows. we'll find out in the bcs, whether they play in the championship or the rose bowl. that's the purpose of it. but the records of these teams earn them the chance to play for it all and that's the way it goes.

dg1979us

soulsinging wrote:

i agree 100%. i think wvu-mizzou will be a great game, but there's no way i'd agree that the winner is indisputably the best team in the country. and ohio state may or may not be for real. who knows. we'll find out in the bcs, whether they play in the championship or the rose bowl. that's the purpose of it. but the records of these teams earn them the chance to play for it all and that's the way it goes.

I cant disagree. But I have a feeling that its going to be WVU-OSU. I think Oklahoma beats Mizzou. Like I said, Im not sure Mizzou is a top 5 team, but I do think Oklahoma is one of the best 5 teams in the country. But anything can happen.

soulsinging

dg1979us wrote:

I cant disagree. But I have a feeling that its going to be WVU-OSU. I think Oklahoma beats Mizzou. Like I said, Im not sure Mizzou is a top 5 team, but I do think Oklahoma is one of the best 5 teams in the country. But anything can happen.

then ohio state better figure out how to get boeckman to pass without throwing an interception. cos the wvu offense is going to give the buckeye defense fits and they are going to need to be able to compete in a shootout better than they did last season.

SPEEDY MCCREADY

quack??

dg1979us

soulsinging wrote:

then ohio state better figure out how to get boeckman to pass without throwing an interception. cos the wvu offense is going to give the buckeye defense fits and they are going to need to be able to compete in a shootout better than they did last season.

I agree. I think OSU loses that game to be honest. The big 10 teams all tend to struggle with the spread offenses. And WVUs offense is something else. I do think OSU can score on them though, but I still think WVU would win that game.

soulsinging

dg1979us wrote:

I agree. I think OSU loses that game to be honest. The big 10 teams all tend to struggle with the spread offenses. And WVUs offense is something else. I do think OSU can score on them though, but I still think WVU would win that game.

no doubt. look what illinois did to the buckeye defense with juice and a few running backs, none of whom are half the threats pat white and his crew are. wvu would tear them up.

soulsinging

this about sums it up (courtesy of espn.com):

The BCS works as well as Kim Kardashian in the lead role of "The Eleanor Roosevelt Story." It is the Kim Jong Il of college football: dictatorial and isolationist. BCS cheerleaders figure if they ignore the logic of a playoff system long enough, maybe it will all just go away.

Chase Daniel and Missouri are No. 1. But would the Tigers survive a playoff?
The truth is, the BCS is held together by rolls of duct tape and stubbornness. First the well-intentioned Bowl Coalition, then the Bowl Alliance, and now the Bowl Championship Series. And they still can't get it right.

Just last week BCS administrators had to tweak their "system" for about the billionth time. The latest bandage was applied after it became apparent that the BCS might not have enough eligible at-large teams for its five games. Oops. The BCS works so well that the only undefeated team in the country, Hawaii, could finish the regular season 12-0 and still get squeezed out of a BCS bowl game. Meanwhile, two-loss Georgia, which didn't even win its conference division or qualify for its league championship game, could conceivably play in a national title game. Huh?

And the next person who smugly tells me, "We don't need a playoff system because we already have one: the regular season," is going to get a Mike Gundy-a-gram. Look, if the regular season were really a playoff, Ohio State would have been eliminated Nov. 10, when it lost at home to Illinois. West Virginia would have been history when it lost to a South Florida team that later experienced a three-game free fall. Missouri would have been through when it lost decisively at Oklahoma on Oct. 13. LSU would have been done after an OT loss at Kentucky on the same Saturday. Virginia Tech would have been cooked after a Sept. 8 loss at LSU and most definitely after an Oct. 25 loss at home against Boston College. And USC's hopes would have expired the exact minute it lost at home to a Stanford team that couldn't beat Notre Dame.

Instead, the Buckeyes, Mountaineers, Hokies and both Tigers are somehow still on the short list, while unbeaten Hawaii and its absolutely hellacious offense is placed in BCS quarantine. Explain that. And while you're at it, explain why the Hokies, who have the same 10-2 record as Boston College, are five spots ahead of the Eagles in the latest BCS standings. You can't.

Just think if you could take Ohio State, West Virginia, LSU, Mizzou, Hawaii, BC (sorry, Hokies -- BC won on your field), Oklahoma and USC (sorry, Kansas and Georgia -- you've got to win your conference or at least reach your conference championship game to qualify), and then start an eight-team, seven-game playoff. How's this for a first-round schedule:

Warriors vs. Mountaineers, Tigers vs. Tigers, Buckeyes vs. Sooners, and Trojans vs. Eagles.

But no, we're stuck with the BCS and its weekly standings weirdness. For example, Missouri is your No. 1 team in the country. This is like Homer Simpson picking up Eva Mendes at a Chi Omega party.

Nothing against Mizzou and quarterback Chase Daniel, but the Tigers aren't the No. 1 team in the country. They aren't even favored in Vegas to beat No. 9 Oklahoma in the Big 12 championship (Mizzou is a 3-point dog).

Missouri is ranked first because somebody needs to be there, and because there is no clear-cut No. 1. There are lots of No. 2s and 3s, which is yet another reason a playoff would work, as opposed to this BCS mess.

Just in case anybody needs instructions, contact the NCAA and its Division I-FCS, Division II and III football teams. They've had an actual playoff system for decades.

norm

"Missouri is your No. 1 team in the country. This is like Homer Simpson picking up Eva Mendes at a Chi Omega party."

hehe....'bout sums it up....:)

tybird

soulsinging wrote:

i like how ohio state loses one national championship game to an incredible florida team and they are suddenly "a fraud." it isn't their fault the hype machine went into overdrive last season. the big ten is weak this season, so what? this was supposed to be ohio state's rebuilding year and they dominated. nobody picked them higher than 3rd in their conference. shit, hawaii couldn't get a major player to take them on. who is going to volunteer to play ohio state? ps... they played texas 2 years in a row and play usc the next few. they're hardly slacking on scheduling. this is just an off year. and their one loss came to a team that almost beat the vaunted mizzou in the first game of the season. but i suppose it's hard to remember such trivialities... we know how you southerners aren't fond of thinking.

I'm remembering the one that they stole from Miami.....pass interference, my ass.

soulsinging

tybird wrote:

I'm remembering the one that they stole from Miami.....pass interference, my ass.

im remembering 1st and goal on the 1-yard line in overtime and miami's invincible offense couldn't cross the goal line in 4 tries. pretty weak when your powerhouse offense is still bitching about a pass interference call as their only excuse for why they didnt win that game when it was 4 consecutive 0 yard plays that ended the game, not a pass interference call. and last i checked, referees call the penalties, not the buckeyes.

pj10alive42

soulsinging wrote:

no doubt. look what illinois did to the buckeye defense with juice and a few running backs, none of whom are half the threats pat white and his crew are. wvu would tear them up.

Sorry Soul...I know you have some respect here, and I know you are a fellow Buckeye...but this comment is just plain fucking dumb. OSU has faced Juice...they have faced good running backs...Tressel will have the boys prepared (unlike last year). When we meet WVU in the national championship we will be ready...ready for the QB run, ready for the RB run, and ready for WVU's poor pass offense. OSU has THE strongest defense in the nation. They've seen the best of the running QB offense, and White will not be it.

soulsinging

pj10alive42 wrote:

Sorry Soul...I know you have some respect here, and I know you are a fellow Buckeye...but this comment is just plain fucking dumb. OSU has faced Juice...they have faced good running backs...Tressel will have the boys prepared (unlike last year). When we meet WVU in the national championship we will be ready...ready for the QB run, ready for the RB run, and ready for WVU's poor pass offense. OSU has THE strongest defense in the nation. They've seen the best of the running QB offense, and White will not be it.

i hope you're right. but i've got to say, pat white looks like a helluva lot more of a threat than juice. the big ten teams always struggle with running quarterbacks and white is the best of the best. he was unstoppable against connecticut. now, osu does have a dynamite defense and ive no doubt they'd are better than conn, but i still think wvu would have no trouble putting points on the board against the buckeyes. however, wvu is prone to making mistakes and osu would make them pay for those dearly. wvu's defense is also good, but i think wells would run al over them. if boeckman could play without tossing interceptions, they'd probably win. but i still think white and co. would move the ball pretty consistently.

MookieBlaylock5v1

Mizzou and OU tied at the half.

Pitt leading WV 10-7 in the 3rd qtr, but should be up 17-7 after a BS holding call negated an awesome Pitt TD run. White's out with a dislocated thumb, and WV looks like a completely different team, just like what happened to Oregon.

Meanwhile, Ohio State is probably liking their chances of sneaking in the back door to the national championship.