UFC 87: Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch / Lesnar Vs. Herring / Huerta Vs. Florian
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it's GSMF'P Vs. Jon Fitch, bitch! 
we've been waiting for this one for a while, and it should be a great title match. lots of potential fight of the night winners here.
could even be a couple of fight of the year candidates as well.
huerta vs. florian should be an outstanding lightweight fight with the winner earning a title shot against bj penn.
should be a good bjj match to start the main card between maia and macdonald too. great card, top to bottom in minnesota!
UFC 87, August 9, 2008 - Target Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota - PPV
Main Card:
Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch - WW Championship
Brock Lesnar Vs. Heath Herring (Mark Coleman out due to injury)
Roger Huerta Vs. Kenny Florian
Manvel Gamburyan Vs. Rob Emerson
Demian Maia Vs. Jason MacDonald
Pre-lims:
Luke Cummo Vs. Tamdan McCrory
Cheick Kongo Vs. Dan Evenson
Steve Bruno Vs. Chris Wilson
Andre Gusmao Vs. Jon Jones (Tomasz Drwal out due to injury)
Ben Saunders Vs. Ryan Thomas (Jared Rollins out due to injury)

we've been waiting for this one for a while, and it should be a great title match. lots of potential fight of the night winners here.
could even be a couple of fight of the year candidates as well.

should be a good bjj match to start the main card between maia and macdonald too. great card, top to bottom in minnesota!

UFC 87, August 9, 2008 - Target Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota - PPV
Main Card:
Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch - WW Championship
Brock Lesnar Vs. Heath Herring (Mark Coleman out due to injury)
Roger Huerta Vs. Kenny Florian
Manvel Gamburyan Vs. Rob Emerson
Demian Maia Vs. Jason MacDonald
Pre-lims:
Luke Cummo Vs. Tamdan McCrory
Cheick Kongo Vs. Dan Evenson
Steve Bruno Vs. Chris Wilson
Andre Gusmao Vs. Jon Jones (Tomasz Drwal out due to injury)
Ben Saunders Vs. Ryan Thomas (Jared Rollins out due to injury)
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rumours for upcoming UFC (and WEC) cards...
UFC 88, September 6, 2008 - Philips Arena, Atlanta, Georgia - PPV
Main Card:
Chuck Liddell Vs. Rashad Evans
Rich Franklin Vs. Matt Hamill (Franklin moves back to LHW for this bout)
Rousimar Palhares Vs. Dan Henderson
Karo Parisyan Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (George Sotiropoulos out due to injury)
Martin Kampmann Vs. Nate Marquardt
Pre-lims:
Kurt Pellgrino Vs. Thiago Tavares
Ryo Chonan Vs. Roan Carneiro
Matt Brown Vs. Dong Hyun Kim
Jason Lambert Vs. Jason Day
Tim Boetsch Vs. James Lee
WEC 36, September 10, 2008 - Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, Hollywood, Florida - Versus / TSN
Main Card:
Paulo Fihlo Vs. Chael Sonnen II - WEC MW Championship
Urijah Faber Vs. Mike Brown - WEC FW Championship
Jens Pulver Vs. Leonard Garcia
Rob McCullough Vs. Donald Cerrone
Pre-lims:
Jake Rosholt Vs. Danillo Villefort
Mark Munoz Vs. Steve Steinbeiss
Alex Serdyukov Vs. Johny Hendricks
Tim McKenzie Vs. Doug Marshall
UFC Fight Night 15, September 17, 2008 - Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, Nebraska - Spike TV
Main Card:
Nate Diaz Vs. Josh Neer
Mac Danzig Vs. Clay Guida
Wilson Gouveia Vs. Jeremy Horn
Houston Alexander Vs. Eric Schafer
Kyle Bradley Vs. Joe Lauzon
Ed Herman Vs. Alan Belcher
Pre-lims:
Alessio Sakara Vs. Joe Vedepo
Drew McFedries Vs. Mike Massenzio
Rob Kimmons Vs. Dan Miller
Jason Brilz Vs. TBA
The Ultimate Fighter 8, September 17, 2008 - Spike TV
Season will feature LHW's and LW's. Coaches : Frank Mir and Antonio Rodgrigo Nogueira
Rumoured Cast:
LW's:
Allen Browning
Dave Kaplan
Efrain Escudero
George Roop
Jason MacKay
Joe Duarte
Phil Nover
Roli Delgado
Shane Nelson
Spencer Paige
Wesley Murch
LHW's:
Antwain Britt
Charles Diaz
Eliot Marshall
Glover Teixiera
Jason Brilz
Jesse Vieum
Krzysztof Soszynski
Kyle Kingsbury
Lance Evans
Ryan Bader
Ryan Jimmo
Shane Primm
Tom Lawlor
Vinicius Magalhaes
UFC 89, October 18, 2008 - National Indoor Arena, Birmingham, England - Spike TV (Tape delay for North America)
Main Card:
Chris Leben Vs. Michael Bisping
Thiago Silva Vs. Lyoto Machida
Brandon Vera Vs. Keith Jardine
Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Vs. Luiz Cane
Paul Taylor Vs. Chris Lytle
Paul Kelly Vs. Marcus Davis
Pre-lims:
Dan Hardy Vs. Akihiro Gono
Sam Stout Vs. Terry Etim
Shane Carwin Vs. Neil Wain
David Bielkheden Vs. Jess Liaudin
Per Eklund Vs. Samy Schiavo
David Baron Vs. Jim Miller
UFC 90, October 25, 2008 - Allstate Arena, Rosemont, Illinois - PPV
Anderson Silva Vs. Patrick Côté - MW Championship
Diego Sanchez Vs. Thiago Alves
Fabricio Werdum Vs. Junior dos Santos
Sean Sherk Vs. Tyson Griffin
Thales Leites Vs. Goran Reljic
Ricardo Almeida Vs. Matt Horwich
Hermes Franca Vs. Gleison Tibau
Antoni Hardonk Vs. Cain Velasquez
Gray Maynard Vs. Matt Wiman
Spencer Fisher Vs. Melvin Guillard
Rory Markham Vs. TBA
UFC 91, November, 2008 - PPV
The Ultimate Fighter 8: Team Nogueira Vs. Team Mir Finale, December 13, 2008 - The Palms, Las Vegas, Nevada - Spike TV
UFC 92, December 27, 2008 - Mandalay Bay Events Center, Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV
Georges St-Pierre Vs. BJ Penn II - WW Championship
Frank Mir Vs. Antonio Rodgrigo Nogueira - HW Championship
Mauricio Rua Vs. Quinton Jackson II
Wanderlei Silva Vs. TBA
UFC 93, January, 2009 - PPV
Matt Serra Vs. Matt Hughes0 -
airing on PPV this month, opposite UFC fight night 14: Silva Vs. Irvin, affliction makes their debut...
Affliction: Banned, July 19, 2008 - Honda Center, Anaheim, California - PPV
Main Card: (PPV Portion)
Fedor Emelianenko Vs. Tim Sylvia
Andrei Arlovski Vs. Ben Rothwell
Josh Barnett Vs. Pedro Rizzo
Matt Lindland Vs. Fabio Negao
Renato Sobral Vs. Mike Whitehead
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Vs. Edwin Dewees (Vernon White out due to suspension)
J.J. Ambrose Vs. Mike Pyle
Ray Lizama Vs. Justin Levens (swing bout)
Pre-PPV: (FSN / The Fight Network)
Gary Goodridge Vs. Paul Buentello (Aleksander Emelianenko denied CSAC clearance)
Vitor Belfort Vs. Terry Martin
Mark Hominick Vs. Savant Young0 -
two days later it's the final round of DREAM's LW tournament at DREAM 5 in osaka, japan...go uno!
DREAM 5, July 21, 2008 - Osakaja Hall, Osaka, Japan - HDNet
LW Tournament:
Shinya Aoki Vs. Caol Uno
Tatsuya Kawajiri Vs. Eddie Alvarez
LW Tournament Reserve Bout:
Joachim Hansen Vs. Kultar Gill
Non - Tournament Bouts:
Mark Hunt Vs. Alistair Overeem
TBA Vs. Joe Benavidez (Kid Yamamoto out due to injury, Benavidez may be scratched)
Yoshihiro Akiyama Vs. Katsuyori Shibata
Hideo Tokoro Vs. Takeshi Amazaki (match could be cancelled due to possible Tokoro injury)
Motoki Miyazawa Vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
LW Final:
Shinya Aoki or Caol Uno Vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri or Eddie Alvarez0 -
and to round out the month of july, EliteXC will air their second show on CBS on July 26th...
EliteXC: Unfinished Business, July 26, 2008 - Stockton Arena, Stockton, California - CBS / Showtime
Main Card (CBS):
Scott Smith Vs. Robbie Lawler II - EliteXC MW Championship
Jake Shields Vs. Nick Thompson - Vacant EliteXC WW Championship
Nick Diaz Vs. Thomas Denny
Shayna Baszler Vs. Cristiane Santos
Pre-lims (Showtime / The Fight Network):
Antonio Silva Vs. Justin Eilers - Vacant EliteXC HW Championship
Rafael Feijao Cavalcante Vs. Travis Galbraith
Wilson Reis Vs. Brian Caraway
Untelevised Pre-lims:
David Douglas Vs. Marlon Mathias (swing bout for CBS Broadcast)
Anthony Ruiz Vs. Jeremy Freitag
Mike Cook Vs. Carl Seumanutafa
Drew Montgomery Vs. Brandon Tarn0 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:and to round out the month of july, EliteXC will air their second show on CBS on July 26th...
EliteXC: Unfinished Business, July 26, 2008 - Stockton Arena, Stockton, California - CBS / Showtime
Main Card (CBS):
Scott Smith Vs. Robbie Lawler II - EliteXC MW Championship
Jake Shields Vs. Nick Thompson - Vacant EliteXC WW Championship
Nick Diaz Vs. Thomas Denny
Shayna Baszler Vs. Christiane Santos (Winner will face Gina Carano in October for vacant Women's 145 lbs. Championship)
Pre-lims (Showtime / The Fight Network):
Antonio Silva Vs. Justin Eilers - Vacant EliteXC HW Championship
Rafael Feijao Vs. TBA
Wilson Reis Vs. Brian Caraway
VERY NICE ON CBS0 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:it's GSMF'P Vs. Jon Fitch, bitch!
fuckin' eh!!!i'm so excited for this.
hmmmm..... 15 hour drive from Toronto??
ps. ALL MANADOR!!!~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~0 -
civ_eng_girl wrote:fuckin' eh!!!
i'm so excited for this.
hmmmm..... 15 hour drive from Toronto??
ps. ALL MANADOR!!!
i want to win another $800
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civ_eng_girl wrote:fuckin' eh!!!
i'm so excited for this.
hmmmm..... 15 hour drive from Toronto??
ps. ALL MANADOR!!! : p
indeed. i can't wait for this one!
i'm hoping we get to see an even better roger huerta this go around, since his move to train at jackson's in new mexico. i think his talent combined with their training and gameplan will pull him through here and get him a title shot!all manador! haha
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NY PJ1 wrote:VERY NICE ON CBS
yeah, this one looks, at least on paper, to be a better representation of what MMA can be. the main event will likely pick up where it left off last time, but otherwise it's good to see a wider variety of skills from the other mixed martial artists on the card. the last time was pretty heavy on the stand up side of things. of course, that turned out to be a lot of fun in the carano vs. young and smith vs. lawler matches.0 -
think i'm the only one who thinks fitch can beat gsp eh. not saying i'm going to pick him, i just think he has a good chance to do it. That card looks awsome, way better than the one on the 19th. I really think the affliction show will be better than the ufc show. I will be watching both in the harrah's sport book so any and all advice on these 2 cards will help since i will be betting on both.
thanks for any help guys"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
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NY PJ1 wrote:i want to win another $800
study your picks wisely
hey ceg, no pressure, eh?!
good luck on winning some more $, NY PJ1.0 -
leafs4ever wrote:think i'm the only one who thinks fitch can beat gsp eh. not saying i'm going to pick him, i just think he has a good chance to do it. That card looks awsome, way better than the one on the 19th. I really think the affliction show will be better than the ufc show. I will be watching both in the harrah's sport book so any and all advice on these 2 cards will help since i will be betting on both.
thanks for any help guys
sounds like fun, leafs.be careful what you ask for, i just may have to delve deep into each match and give you my opinion.
also, if you're looking for fedor fights, all but his last against hong man choi have been posted...and they're free!...so i just wanted to give you the heads up. i remember you saying before that you wanted to check out some of his earlier matches before the affliction show.
oh yeah, i think fitch indeed has a chance. this should be a competitive match. i'll still be going with georges, but it should be one of his toughest fights yet.0 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:sounds like fun, leafs.
be careful what you ask for, i just may have to delve deep into each match and give you my opinion.
also, if you're looking for fedor fights, all but his last against hong man choi have been posted...and they're free!...so i just wanted to give you the heads up. i remember you saying before that you wanted to check out some of his earlier matches before the affliction show.
oh yeah, i think fitch indeed has a chance. this should be a competitive match. i'll still be going with georges, but it should be one of his toughest fights yet.
please do, like i said, any help will be appreciated
thanks for the heads up about the fedor fights, it's downloading as i type lol."I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
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leafs4ever wrote:please do, like i said, any help will be appreciated
thanks for the heads up about the fedor fights, it's downloading as i type lol.
holy share ratio, batman!you made out like a bandit on that one. sweet!
so i gave the afflcition card some thought and i think i'll probabaly be going with the favourites here for the most part. i haven't looked at the odds, but that's what i'm guessing...so for what it's worth...:D
Affliction: Banned, July 19, 2008 - Honda Center, Anaheim, California - PPV
Main Card: (PPV Portion)
Fedor Emelianenko Vs. Tim Sylvia - the big one! fedor has been so inactive in terms of facing HW contenders over the last couple of years that it's difficult to get a read on what he will look like going into this fight. it's a change of venue for tim, as this will be sylvia's first time fighting in a rope for a long time. he had very good take down defense in a cage so it should be even better in a rope. i don't know what fedor's game plan will be here considering he has shown that can be strong wherever the fight goes, but it's obvious tim will want to sprawl and keep it on the feet so that he can take advantage of his reach. i think this might actually be a pretty good match up for tim, especially given that he's been active and has been fighting top HW's (not always winning recently, but still active). questions marks surround fedor's injury problems and his only real test in the past couple of years has been mark hunt. if tim can prevent fedor from getting inside, and especially stay away from letting him get it to the ground, he has a very good chance to win.
hate to do it, but i'm going with sylvia for the upset...either by decision or by preventing the takedowns, establishing his jab and getting a *gasp* tko later in the fight. :eek:
Andrei Arlovski Vs. Ben Rothwell - arlovski's boxing and kickbixing is just way too crisp and his takedown defense is phenomenal. i think he'll silence the hype behind rothwell fairly easily if he wants to come out and be aggressive with his hands and kicks. rothwell has 13 wins in a row, but the only one of note is really his last one, a decision win over ricco rodriguez. andrei no longer has to worry about fighting the safe fight with the "have to win to stay in the ufc" cloud hanging over his head, and rothwell might simply be in over his head facing a striker like arlovski.
arlovski by ko in the first.
Josh Barnett Vs. Pedro Rizzo - this one is likely nothing more than an opportunity for barnett to avenge an old loss in the ufc. rizzo has a lot going against him. he cuts easily and hasn't been very active over the last few years, while barnett has only become better and is one of the best HW's in the world. he should be able to win this one wherever he wants to put it. still, rizzo has knockout power and barnett knows that all too well, but that should be well past being in his head.
barnett by tko early in the second, maybe even the first.
Matt Lindland Vs. Fabio Negao - negao is not a fighter i know a lot about, but it seems he can submit and be submitted. only guys like demian maia and rousimar palhares have done it though. lindland has been out for a year, and has been involved in other ventures like running for office and working with his own promotion. could be too many distractions from the fight, maybe? we'll see, but if negao can't get top position and work for a submission, it's a zzzzzzz.....and...
lindland by decision.
Renato Sobral Vs. Mike Whitehead - whitehead hasn't lost since leaving the ufc. 12 wins in a row. other than his win over vernon white, most of those came against opponents with a LOT less experience and some who were holding .500 records or lower. whitehead has never been submitted, but babalu can submit anyone from his back or from the top, and i can see whitehead making a mistake that babalu will capitalize on. whitehead could look to take him down a little bit into the first and ground and pound for a while. he'll probably have some success to start, but it may prove to be his undoing.
babalu by submission, arm bar or choke, in the later part of the second round.
Pre-lims: (FSN / The Fight Network)
Aleksander Emelianenko Vs. Paul Buentello - never bet against a man with a tattoo on his back of a grim reaper holding a baby.
aleksander by ko in the first.
Vitor Belfort Vs. Terry Martin - this one could almost be a coin flip, if only because of martin's punching power. belfort is fighting at 185 for the first time, coming out of his first training camp at extreme couture, and has had about 10 months off. martin has been splitting his time between boxing and mma. lots of question marks here, but there's no question that belfort's best is better than martin's best. the only thing is martin's ability to get the ko...still, belfort looks like he is in great shape right now and should have a good performance after the camp he's put in with shawn tompkins. he presents more weapons standing than does martin, and his speed at 185 should be exceptional. martin could pose a takedown threat to vitor, but not much beyond that if it goes to the ground.
belfort by ko in the first.
Pre-lims: (May Not Be Broadcast)
Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Vs. Edwin Dewees (Vernon White out due to suspension) - this would have been a closer match if lil nog was still facing white. i don't see any area of the fight where nogueira won't have the advantage. he's bigger, a better boxer, and has much better submissions. nogueira with a tko if it stays on the feet or a submission if it goes to the ground.
nogueira by tko in the second.
Mark Hominick Vs. Trenell (Savant) Young - young is coming off the biggest win of his career, a huge upset over lion takeshi in shooto in japan. hominick is one of the better strikers in the FW division and should be able to use his reach here over a shorter young in order to prevent young from getting another upset win. no doubt young will look to take this to the ground as standing up with hominick usually becomes frustrating because his movement is so good. mark has a very good sprawl too, and has really only shown weakness against guys with extremely strong submission games. if he gets confident in his takedown defense, hominick should gradually pick apart young with his hands and either get a tko late or outpoint him for the decision.
hominick by decision.
J.J. Ambrose Vs. Mike Pyle - ambrose is known for his submission wins and is undefeated at 6-0, but he's going up against a guy who is phenomenal on the ground. pyle has faced some very tough competition and has only come up short against a few of them. ambrose hasn't really faced anyone of note yet, certainly no one in pyle's league. i expect pyle to quickly take him down into his "quicksand", put him in very bad position and submit him. in the last pyle match i saw, he completely had his way with his opponent on the ground, and i don't see this one being any different.
pyle by submission in the first.
Patrick Speight Vs. Justin Levens - after starting his career as a promising 7-0 ? prospect, levens is on a five fight losing streak. i know nothing of speight, other than he is a 6-0 fighter who has faced the much lower level of competition between the two. levens with and edge because of experience and training with marco ruas, maybe?!?!
50/50, but may say levens with the tko in the first.
edit: it looks like levens opponent is ray lizama after all. if that's the case, i would lean more towards a levens tko.0 -
wow thanks for the awsome write up mookie. I kind of have the same feeling about tim but really it depends on who is the underdog in the fight that will decide who i bet for. I'm hoping Tim is a -200 so i can hopefully make out like a bandit."I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
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leafs4ever wrote:wow thanks for the awsome write up mookie. I kind of have the same feeling about tim but really it depends on who is the underdog in the fight that will decide who i bet for. I'm hoping Tim is a -200 so i can hopefully make out like a bandit.
that's what i was thinking too. i can't see fedor being the underdog, but by the time some money has come in, it may get a little more even. let's hope tim's line is around where you want it in case he can pull off the win. i'll do a fight night write up later, since you enjoyed that one.:D
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just did a quick search, and on betus.com (don't know how accurate they are) they have these odds listed for affliction...i didn't realize pyle's opponent had changed, but he should still get a submission. might be easier now that he's facing a guy known more for his stand up. the only thing is that unlike ambrose, cooper has actually faced a few decent opponents.
Fabio Negao +325
Matt Lindland -450
Mike Whitehead +200
Renato Sobral -260
Brett Cooper +250
Mike Pyle -350
Fedor Emelianenko -350
Tim Sylvia +250
Josh Barnett -400
Pedro Rizzo +300
Aleksander Emelianenko -350
Paul Buentello +2500 -
Paul Buentello +250
Paul might be a decent gamble to win some money on. I might have to throw $20 bucks on him.0 -
mookie blaylock 10 wrote:that's what i was thinking too. i can't see fedor being the underdog, but by the time some money has come in, it may get a little more even. let's hope tim's line is around where you want it in case he can pull off the win. i'll do a fight night write up later, since you enjoyed that one.
:D
ya that was supposed to be a +200 lol... i'm hoping Tim is underdog"I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
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mookie blaylock 10 wrote:just did a quick search, and on betus.com (don't know how accurate they are) they have these odds listed for affliction...i didn't realize pyle's opponent had changed, but he should still get a submission. might be easier now that he's facing a guy known more for his stand up. the only thing is that unlike ambrose, cooper has actually faced a few decent opponents.
Fabio Negao +325
Matt Lindland -450
Mike Whitehead +200
Renato Sobral -260
Brett Cooper +250
Mike Pyle -350
Fedor Emelianenko -350
Tim Sylvia +250
Josh Barnett -400
Pedro Rizzo +300
Aleksander Emelianenko -350
Paul Buentello +250
if this is true the Tim/Fedor fight will probably be the only one i bet on. If Tim is a +250 when i get there that's a for sure bet. anything else i should be looking at here, i think every favourite will win."I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
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