UFC 87: Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch / Lesnar Vs. Herring / Huerta Vs. Florian

mookie blaylock 10mookie blaylock 10 Posts: 4,042
edited July 2008 in All Encompassing Trip
it's GSMF'P Vs. Jon Fitch, bitch! :D

we've been waiting for this one for a while, and it should be a great title match. lots of potential fight of the night winners here.

could even be a couple of fight of the year candidates as well. :) huerta vs. florian should be an outstanding lightweight fight with the winner earning a title shot against bj penn.

should be a good bjj match to start the main card between maia and macdonald too. great card, top to bottom in minnesota! :)


UFC 87, August 9, 2008 - Target Center, Minneapolis, Minnesota - PPV

Main Card:

Georges St-Pierre Vs. Jon Fitch - WW Championship
Brock Lesnar Vs. Heath Herring (Mark Coleman out due to injury)
Roger Huerta Vs. Kenny Florian
Manvel Gamburyan Vs. Rob Emerson
Demian Maia Vs. Jason MacDonald

Pre-lims:

Luke Cummo Vs. Tamdan McCrory
Cheick Kongo Vs. Dan Evenson
Steve Bruno Vs. Chris Wilson
Andre Gusmao Vs. Jon Jones (Tomasz Drwal out due to injury)
Ben Saunders Vs. Ryan Thomas (Jared Rollins out due to injury)
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  • rumours for upcoming UFC (and WEC) cards...


    UFC 88, September 6, 2008 - Philips Arena, Atlanta, Georgia - PPV

    Main Card:

    Chuck Liddell Vs. Rashad Evans
    Rich Franklin Vs. Matt Hamill (Franklin moves back to LHW for this bout)
    Rousimar Palhares Vs. Dan Henderson
    Karo Parisyan Vs. Yoshiyuki Yoshida (George Sotiropoulos out due to injury)
    Martin Kampmann Vs. Nate Marquardt

    Pre-lims:

    Kurt Pellgrino Vs. Thiago Tavares
    Ryo Chonan Vs. Roan Carneiro
    Matt Brown Vs. Dong Hyun Kim
    Jason Lambert Vs. Jason Day
    Tim Boetsch Vs. James Lee




    WEC 36, September 10, 2008 - Hard Rock Hotel & Casino, Hollywood, Florida - Versus / TSN

    Main Card:

    Paulo Fihlo Vs. Chael Sonnen II - WEC MW Championship
    Urijah Faber Vs. Mike Brown - WEC FW Championship
    Jens Pulver Vs. Leonard Garcia
    Rob McCullough Vs. Donald Cerrone

    Pre-lims:

    Jake Rosholt Vs. Danillo Villefort
    Mark Munoz Vs. Steve Steinbeiss
    Alex Serdyukov Vs. Johny Hendricks
    Tim McKenzie Vs. Doug Marshall




    UFC Fight Night 15, September 17, 2008 - Omaha Civic Auditorium, Omaha, Nebraska - Spike TV

    Main Card:

    Nate Diaz Vs. Josh Neer
    Mac Danzig Vs. Clay Guida
    Wilson Gouveia Vs. Jeremy Horn
    Houston Alexander Vs. Eric Schafer
    Kyle Bradley Vs. Joe Lauzon
    Ed Herman Vs. Alan Belcher

    Pre-lims:

    Alessio Sakara Vs. Joe Vedepo
    Drew McFedries Vs. Mike Massenzio
    Rob Kimmons Vs. Dan Miller
    Jason Brilz Vs. TBA




    The Ultimate Fighter 8, September 17, 2008 - Spike TV

    Season will feature LHW's and LW's. Coaches : Frank Mir and Antonio Rodgrigo Nogueira

    Rumoured Cast:

    LW's:

    Allen Browning
    Dave Kaplan
    Efrain Escudero
    George Roop
    Jason MacKay
    Joe Duarte
    Phil Nover
    Roli Delgado
    Shane Nelson
    Spencer Paige
    Wesley Murch

    LHW's:

    Antwain Britt
    Charles Diaz
    Eliot Marshall
    Glover Teixiera
    Jason Brilz
    Jesse Vieum
    Krzysztof Soszynski
    Kyle Kingsbury
    Lance Evans
    Ryan Bader
    Ryan Jimmo
    Shane Primm
    Tom Lawlor
    Vinicius Magalhaes




    UFC 89, October 18, 2008 - National Indoor Arena, Birmingham, England - Spike TV (Tape delay for North America)

    Main Card:

    Chris Leben Vs. Michael Bisping
    Thiago Silva Vs. Lyoto Machida
    Brandon Vera Vs. Keith Jardine
    Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou Vs. Luiz Cane
    Paul Taylor Vs. Chris Lytle
    Paul Kelly Vs. Marcus Davis

    Pre-lims:

    Dan Hardy Vs. Akihiro Gono
    Sam Stout Vs. Terry Etim
    Shane Carwin Vs. Neil Wain
    David Bielkheden Vs. Jess Liaudin
    Per Eklund Vs. Samy Schiavo
    David Baron Vs. Jim Miller




    UFC 90, October 25, 2008 - Allstate Arena, Rosemont, Illinois - PPV

    Anderson Silva Vs. Patrick Côté - MW Championship
    Diego Sanchez Vs. Thiago Alves
    Fabricio Werdum Vs. Junior dos Santos
    Sean Sherk Vs. Tyson Griffin
    Thales Leites Vs. Goran Reljic
    Ricardo Almeida Vs. Matt Horwich
    Hermes Franca Vs. Gleison Tibau
    Antoni Hardonk Vs. Cain Velasquez
    Gray Maynard Vs. Matt Wiman
    Spencer Fisher Vs. Melvin Guillard
    Rory Markham Vs. TBA




    UFC 91, November, 2008 - PPV




    The Ultimate Fighter 8: Team Nogueira Vs. Team Mir Finale, December 13, 2008 - The Palms, Las Vegas, Nevada - Spike TV




    UFC 92, December 27, 2008 - Mandalay Bay Events Center, Las Vegas, Nevada - PPV

    Georges St-Pierre Vs. BJ Penn II - WW Championship
    Frank Mir Vs. Antonio Rodgrigo Nogueira - HW Championship
    Mauricio Rua Vs. Quinton Jackson II
    Wanderlei Silva Vs. TBA




    UFC 93, January, 2009 - PPV

    Matt Serra Vs. Matt Hughes
  • airing on PPV this month, opposite UFC fight night 14: Silva Vs. Irvin, affliction makes their debut...


    Affliction: Banned, July 19, 2008 - Honda Center, Anaheim, California - PPV

    Main Card: (PPV Portion)

    Fedor Emelianenko Vs. Tim Sylvia
    Andrei Arlovski Vs. Ben Rothwell
    Josh Barnett Vs. Pedro Rizzo
    Matt Lindland Vs. Fabio Negao
    Renato Sobral Vs. Mike Whitehead
    Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Vs. Edwin Dewees (Vernon White out due to suspension)
    J.J. Ambrose Vs. Mike Pyle
    Ray Lizama Vs. Justin Levens (swing bout)

    Pre-PPV: (FSN / The Fight Network)

    Gary Goodridge Vs. Paul Buentello (Aleksander Emelianenko denied CSAC clearance)
    Vitor Belfort Vs. Terry Martin
    Mark Hominick Vs. Savant Young
  • two days later it's the final round of DREAM's LW tournament at DREAM 5 in osaka, japan...go uno! :)

    DREAM 5, July 21, 2008 - Osakaja Hall, Osaka, Japan - HDNet

    LW Tournament:

    Shinya Aoki Vs. Caol Uno
    Tatsuya Kawajiri Vs. Eddie Alvarez

    LW Tournament Reserve Bout:

    Joachim Hansen Vs. Kultar Gill

    Non - Tournament Bouts:

    Mark Hunt Vs. Alistair Overeem
    TBA Vs. Joe Benavidez (Kid Yamamoto out due to injury, Benavidez may be scratched)
    Yoshihiro Akiyama Vs. Katsuyori Shibata
    Hideo Tokoro Vs. Takeshi Amazaki (match could be cancelled due to possible Tokoro injury)
    Motoki Miyazawa Vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka

    LW Final:

    Shinya Aoki or Caol Uno Vs. Tatsuya Kawajiri or Eddie Alvarez
  • and to round out the month of july, EliteXC will air their second show on CBS on July 26th...

    EliteXC: Unfinished Business, July 26, 2008 - Stockton Arena, Stockton, California - CBS / Showtime

    Main Card (CBS):

    Scott Smith Vs. Robbie Lawler II - EliteXC MW Championship
    Jake Shields Vs. Nick Thompson - Vacant EliteXC WW Championship
    Nick Diaz Vs. Thomas Denny
    Shayna Baszler Vs. Cristiane Santos

    Pre-lims (Showtime / The Fight Network):

    Antonio Silva Vs. Justin Eilers - Vacant EliteXC HW Championship
    Rafael Feijao Cavalcante Vs. Travis Galbraith
    Wilson Reis Vs. Brian Caraway

    Untelevised Pre-lims:

    David Douglas Vs. Marlon Mathias (swing bout for CBS Broadcast)
    Anthony Ruiz Vs. Jeremy Freitag
    Mike Cook Vs. Carl Seumanutafa
    Drew Montgomery Vs. Brandon Tarn
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    and to round out the month of july, EliteXC will air their second show on CBS on July 26th...

    EliteXC: Unfinished Business, July 26, 2008 - Stockton Arena, Stockton, California - CBS / Showtime

    Main Card (CBS):

    Scott Smith Vs. Robbie Lawler II - EliteXC MW Championship
    Jake Shields Vs. Nick Thompson - Vacant EliteXC WW Championship
    Nick Diaz Vs. Thomas Denny
    Shayna Baszler Vs. Christiane Santos (Winner will face Gina Carano in October for vacant Women's 145 lbs. Championship)

    Pre-lims (Showtime / The Fight Network):

    Antonio Silva Vs. Justin Eilers - Vacant EliteXC HW Championship
    Rafael Feijao Vs. TBA
    Wilson Reis Vs. Brian Caraway


    VERY NICE ON CBS
  • civ_eng_girlciv_eng_girl Posts: 2,001
    it's GSMF'P Vs. Jon Fitch, bitch! :D

    fuckin' eh!!! :D i'm so excited for this. :)


    hmmmm..... 15 hour drive from Toronto??



    ps. ALL MANADOR!!! :p
    ~~*~~ ...i surfaced and all of my being was enlightend... ~~*~~
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    fuckin' eh!!! :D i'm so excited for this. :)


    hmmmm..... 15 hour drive from Toronto??



    ps. ALL MANADOR!!! :p


    i want to win another $800

    study your picks wisely :)
  • fuckin' eh!!! :D i'm so excited for this. :)


    hmmmm..... 15 hour drive from Toronto??



    ps. ALL MANADOR!!! : p

    :D

    indeed. i can't wait for this one!

    i'm hoping we get to see an even better roger huerta this go around, since his move to train at jackson's in new mexico. i think his talent combined with their training and gameplan will pull him through here and get him a title shot! :) all manador! haha :D
  • NY PJ1 wrote:
    VERY NICE ON CBS

    yeah, this one looks, at least on paper, to be a better representation of what MMA can be. the main event will likely pick up where it left off last time, but otherwise it's good to see a wider variety of skills from the other mixed martial artists on the card. the last time was pretty heavy on the stand up side of things. of course, that turned out to be a lot of fun in the carano vs. young and smith vs. lawler matches. :)
  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    think i'm the only one who thinks fitch can beat gsp eh. not saying i'm going to pick him, i just think he has a good chance to do it. That card looks awsome, way better than the one on the 19th. I really think the affliction show will be better than the ufc show. I will be watching both in the harrah's sport book so any and all advice on these 2 cards will help since i will be betting on both.
    thanks for any help guys
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • NY PJ1 wrote:
    i want to win another $800

    study your picks wisely :)

    hey ceg, no pressure, eh?! :D

    good luck on winning some more $, NY PJ1. :)
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    think i'm the only one who thinks fitch can beat gsp eh. not saying i'm going to pick him, i just think he has a good chance to do it. That card looks awsome, way better than the one on the 19th. I really think the affliction show will be better than the ufc show. I will be watching both in the harrah's sport book so any and all advice on these 2 cards will help since i will be betting on both.
    thanks for any help guys

    sounds like fun, leafs. :) be careful what you ask for, i just may have to delve deep into each match and give you my opinion. :D

    also, if you're looking for fedor fights, all but his last against hong man choi have been posted...and they're free!...so i just wanted to give you the heads up. i remember you saying before that you wanted to check out some of his earlier matches before the affliction show.

    oh yeah, i think fitch indeed has a chance. this should be a competitive match. i'll still be going with georges, but it should be one of his toughest fights yet.
  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    sounds like fun, leafs. :) be careful what you ask for, i just may have to delve deep into each match and give you my opinion. :D

    also, if you're looking for fedor fights, all but his last against hong man choi have been posted...and they're free!...so i just wanted to give you the heads up. i remember you saying before that you wanted to check out some of his earlier matches before the affliction show.

    oh yeah, i think fitch indeed has a chance. this should be a competitive match. i'll still be going with georges, but it should be one of his toughest fights yet.

    please do, like i said, any help will be appreciated :)

    thanks for the heads up about the fedor fights, it's downloading as i type lol.
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    please do, like i said, any help will be appreciated :)

    thanks for the heads up about the fedor fights, it's downloading as i type lol.

    holy share ratio, batman! :D you made out like a bandit on that one. sweet! :)

    so i gave the afflcition card some thought and i think i'll probabaly be going with the favourites here for the most part. i haven't looked at the odds, but that's what i'm guessing...so for what it's worth...:D

    Affliction: Banned, July 19, 2008 - Honda Center, Anaheim, California - PPV

    Main Card: (PPV Portion)

    Fedor Emelianenko Vs. Tim Sylvia - the big one! fedor has been so inactive in terms of facing HW contenders over the last couple of years that it's difficult to get a read on what he will look like going into this fight. it's a change of venue for tim, as this will be sylvia's first time fighting in a rope for a long time. he had very good take down defense in a cage so it should be even better in a rope. i don't know what fedor's game plan will be here considering he has shown that can be strong wherever the fight goes, but it's obvious tim will want to sprawl and keep it on the feet so that he can take advantage of his reach. i think this might actually be a pretty good match up for tim, especially given that he's been active and has been fighting top HW's (not always winning recently, but still active). questions marks surround fedor's injury problems and his only real test in the past couple of years has been mark hunt. if tim can prevent fedor from getting inside, and especially stay away from letting him get it to the ground, he has a very good chance to win.

    hate to do it, but i'm going with sylvia for the upset...either by decision or by preventing the takedowns, establishing his jab and getting a *gasp* tko later in the fight. :eek:


    Andrei Arlovski Vs. Ben Rothwell - arlovski's boxing and kickbixing is just way too crisp and his takedown defense is phenomenal. i think he'll silence the hype behind rothwell fairly easily if he wants to come out and be aggressive with his hands and kicks. rothwell has 13 wins in a row, but the only one of note is really his last one, a decision win over ricco rodriguez. andrei no longer has to worry about fighting the safe fight with the "have to win to stay in the ufc" cloud hanging over his head, and rothwell might simply be in over his head facing a striker like arlovski.

    arlovski by ko in the first.


    Josh Barnett Vs. Pedro Rizzo - this one is likely nothing more than an opportunity for barnett to avenge an old loss in the ufc. rizzo has a lot going against him. he cuts easily and hasn't been very active over the last few years, while barnett has only become better and is one of the best HW's in the world. he should be able to win this one wherever he wants to put it. still, rizzo has knockout power and barnett knows that all too well, but that should be well past being in his head.

    barnett by tko early in the second, maybe even the first.


    Matt Lindland Vs. Fabio Negao - negao is not a fighter i know a lot about, but it seems he can submit and be submitted. only guys like demian maia and rousimar palhares have done it though. lindland has been out for a year, and has been involved in other ventures like running for office and working with his own promotion. could be too many distractions from the fight, maybe? we'll see, but if negao can't get top position and work for a submission, it's a zzzzzzz.....and...

    lindland by decision.


    Renato Sobral Vs. Mike Whitehead - whitehead hasn't lost since leaving the ufc. 12 wins in a row. other than his win over vernon white, most of those came against opponents with a LOT less experience and some who were holding .500 records or lower. whitehead has never been submitted, but babalu can submit anyone from his back or from the top, and i can see whitehead making a mistake that babalu will capitalize on. whitehead could look to take him down a little bit into the first and ground and pound for a while. he'll probably have some success to start, but it may prove to be his undoing.

    babalu by submission, arm bar or choke, in the later part of the second round.


    Pre-lims: (FSN / The Fight Network)

    Aleksander Emelianenko Vs. Paul Buentello - never bet against a man with a tattoo on his back of a grim reaper holding a baby.

    aleksander by ko in the first.


    Vitor Belfort Vs. Terry Martin - this one could almost be a coin flip, if only because of martin's punching power. belfort is fighting at 185 for the first time, coming out of his first training camp at extreme couture, and has had about 10 months off. martin has been splitting his time between boxing and mma. lots of question marks here, but there's no question that belfort's best is better than martin's best. the only thing is martin's ability to get the ko...still, belfort looks like he is in great shape right now and should have a good performance after the camp he's put in with shawn tompkins. he presents more weapons standing than does martin, and his speed at 185 should be exceptional. martin could pose a takedown threat to vitor, but not much beyond that if it goes to the ground.

    belfort by ko in the first.


    Pre-lims: (May Not Be Broadcast)

    Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Vs. Edwin Dewees (Vernon White out due to suspension) - this would have been a closer match if lil nog was still facing white. i don't see any area of the fight where nogueira won't have the advantage. he's bigger, a better boxer, and has much better submissions. nogueira with a tko if it stays on the feet or a submission if it goes to the ground.

    nogueira by tko in the second.


    Mark Hominick Vs. Trenell (Savant) Young - young is coming off the biggest win of his career, a huge upset over lion takeshi in shooto in japan. hominick is one of the better strikers in the FW division and should be able to use his reach here over a shorter young in order to prevent young from getting another upset win. no doubt young will look to take this to the ground as standing up with hominick usually becomes frustrating because his movement is so good. mark has a very good sprawl too, and has really only shown weakness against guys with extremely strong submission games. if he gets confident in his takedown defense, hominick should gradually pick apart young with his hands and either get a tko late or outpoint him for the decision.

    hominick by decision.


    J.J. Ambrose Vs. Mike Pyle - ambrose is known for his submission wins and is undefeated at 6-0, but he's going up against a guy who is phenomenal on the ground. pyle has faced some very tough competition and has only come up short against a few of them. ambrose hasn't really faced anyone of note yet, certainly no one in pyle's league. i expect pyle to quickly take him down into his "quicksand", put him in very bad position and submit him. in the last pyle match i saw, he completely had his way with his opponent on the ground, and i don't see this one being any different.

    pyle by submission in the first.


    Patrick Speight Vs. Justin Levens - after starting his career as a promising 7-0 ? prospect, levens is on a five fight losing streak. i know nothing of speight, other than he is a 6-0 fighter who has faced the much lower level of competition between the two. levens with and edge because of experience and training with marco ruas, maybe?!?!

    50/50, but may say levens with the tko in the first.

    edit: it looks like levens opponent is ray lizama after all. if that's the case, i would lean more towards a levens tko.
  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    wow thanks for the awsome write up mookie. I kind of have the same feeling about tim but really it depends on who is the underdog in the fight that will decide who i bet for. I'm hoping Tim is a -200 so i can hopefully make out like a bandit.
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    wow thanks for the awsome write up mookie. I kind of have the same feeling about tim but really it depends on who is the underdog in the fight that will decide who i bet for. I'm hoping Tim is a -200 so i can hopefully make out like a bandit.

    that's what i was thinking too. i can't see fedor being the underdog, but by the time some money has come in, it may get a little more even. let's hope tim's line is around where you want it in case he can pull off the win. i'll do a fight night write up later, since you enjoyed that one. ;):D
  • just did a quick search, and on betus.com (don't know how accurate they are) they have these odds listed for affliction...i didn't realize pyle's opponent had changed, but he should still get a submission. might be easier now that he's facing a guy known more for his stand up. the only thing is that unlike ambrose, cooper has actually faced a few decent opponents.

    Fabio Negao +325
    Matt Lindland -450

    Mike Whitehead +200
    Renato Sobral -260

    Brett Cooper +250
    Mike Pyle -350

    Fedor Emelianenko -350
    Tim Sylvia +250

    Josh Barnett -400
    Pedro Rizzo +300

    Aleksander Emelianenko -350
    Paul Buentello +250
  • Paul Buentello +250

    Paul might be a decent gamble to win some money on. I might have to throw $20 bucks on him.
  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    that's what i was thinking too. i can't see fedor being the underdog, but by the time some money has come in, it may get a little more even. let's hope tim's line is around where you want it in case he can pull off the win. i'll do a fight night write up later, since you enjoyed that one. ;):D


    ya that was supposed to be a +200 lol... i'm hoping Tim is underdog
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    just did a quick search, and on betus.com (don't know how accurate they are) they have these odds listed for affliction...i didn't realize pyle's opponent had changed, but he should still get a submission. might be easier now that he's facing a guy known more for his stand up. the only thing is that unlike ambrose, cooper has actually faced a few decent opponents.

    Fabio Negao +325
    Matt Lindland -450

    Mike Whitehead +200
    Renato Sobral -260

    Brett Cooper +250
    Mike Pyle -350

    Fedor Emelianenko -350
    Tim Sylvia +250

    Josh Barnett -400
    Pedro Rizzo +300

    Aleksander Emelianenko -350
    Paul Buentello +250

    if this is true the Tim/Fedor fight will probably be the only one i bet on. If Tim is a +250 when i get there that's a for sure bet. anything else i should be looking at here, i think every favourite will win.
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4everleafs4ever Posts: 833
    Paul Buentello +250

    Paul might be a decent gamble to win some money on. I might have to throw $20 bucks on him.


    really? I don't know anything about him... you think he'd have a chance to beat Aleksander?
    "I'll ride the wave where it takes me"
    09/19/05, 05/09/06, 05/10/06
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    ya that was supposed to be a +200 lol... i'm hoping Tim is underdog

    i'm used to the pro-line odds myself. the +'s and -'s....argh! :D
  • so i have given the fight night picks some consideration..:)

    UFC Fight Night 14, July 19, 2008 - The Palms, Las Vegas, Nevada - Spike TV

    Main Card:

    Anderson Silva Vs. James Irvin - a bet on silva here is a waste of a gamble, in my opinion. irvin should be such an underdog that a small bet on him could provide a good return. having said that, silva's muay thai is so much more fluid, accurate and diverse than irvin's. irvin has knockout power in all his weapons, but you don't see him using the kind of combinations silva does. james uses one shot or simple combos, but powerful shots. silva SHOULD see most of what james irvin has to offer coming. irvin, on the other hand could easily get overwhelmed. silva is so confusing with the different types of strikes he throws and the stances and footwork he uses.

    irvin has only been knocked out once. silva has never been ko'd or tko'd. irvin has the ability to do it if he gets that one shot in, so who knows? maybe a flying knee to start the match like he did in the second round against terry martin. i'd go so far as to say that irvin is arguably the best striker anderson has faced. not nearly the most well rounded, of course. then, there's also the question of how silva will look at 205 (i'd say just as good ;)).

    just because it would be insanity...

    irvin by ko in the middle of the first round.



    Brandon Vera Vs. Reese Andy - vera is the other guy moving to 205 here. word is that he looks absolutely phenomenal with his speed and agility. reese is a highly touted fighter from the ifl, but he has a habit of going to decision. he likes the ground and pound. this one doesn't seem to have the decision feeling to it. reese is a strong wrestler, but is the shorter fighter, so i can see brandon really enjoying his reach here and taking advantage of it. he's the much better striker in every way in this match. if he can get into the clinch against the shorter opponent and avoid getting taken down while there, those knees are going to be too much for reese. brandon hasn't had too much luck in the clinch in his last two matches, but those were against sylvia and werdum, both much taller and heavier fighters. still, if reese gets the takedown from the clinch as he said he plans to do, brandon is a decent grappler himself and can get back to his feet well.

    vera by tko in the first.



    Frankie Edgar Vs. Hermes Franca - there was a match maybe a year and a half ago that hermes took on short notice against jamie varner, another strong wrestler with stand up not on the level of edgar's at the time. varner won the first two rounds with takedowns, but ran out of gas in the third and after taking hermes down one last time, he got caught in an armbar and lost the match. (hermes was also out of gas...)

    the reason i mention it is because i think this match will look a lot like that one, only more active. also, i don't see edgar getting warned for running away like varner did after hermes hit him. :D

    i'm really hoping this will be an exciting match, but i think it will be a matter of edgar taking hermes down repeatedly for a round or two, staying pretty active and hermes maybe attempting a few submission from his back. hermes has been out a year, so we'll have to see how his conditioning is in the third, but i've seen franca enough times to know that his heart comes out when his back is against the wall. hermes either being able to avoid the takedown in the third or finally timing a nice knee as edgar shoots should provide and exciting finish to the match. if he can't and it goes to the judges, it will be edgar who comes out on top.

    franca by tko in the third round.



    Cain Velasquez Vs. Jake O'Brien - velasquez has everything going for him on paper with the exception of experience. he looked a little green at his debut in montreal, but still very overwhelming. he's going up against a better opponent in o'brien this time, but jake is one dimensional. fortunately for cain, he excels in that dimension, wrestling. his stand up is much better too. this fight will take place wherever cain wants it too and he should be able to pound out a tko.

    velasquez by tko in the second round, maybe even the first is jake can't weather the storm.



    Kevin Burns Vs. Anthony Johnson - burns is coming off the huge upset win over roan carneiro, and by submission, no less. johnson is coming off the big knockout of tommy speer. johnson is a freak of nature at WW. great sprawl, huge reach, with accuracy, speed and power. too much for kevin burns to deal with.

    johnson by ko in the first round.



    CB Dolloway Vs. Jesse Taylor - we saw these guys on the show, so we know jesse's gameplan and we know what he likes to do. he'll be looking to ground and pound and avoid the submissions. dolloway seems like a very good athlete, so i wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of improvement in his game. i just can't see jesse putting cb in a place in this fight where he would be in a lot of danger. on the other hand, i can see it happening to jesse.

    dolloway by submission or tko in the second.


    Pre-lims:

    Tim Credeur Vs. Cale Yarbrough - again, we all saw both these guys on the show. i wonder how much inprovements they have each made, because from what i recall of cale, he likes to leave arms hanging behind on the ground. if i were making the gameplan for tim for this fight, it would be to open with a flying guard, take a couple of punches on the ground and then grab that arm.

    credeur by submission, armbar or triangle, in the first.



    Rory Markham Vs. Brodie Farber - markham is another highly regarded fighter from the ifl and he has a couple of quality wins over quality opponents. he looks for the ko, and he's never gone to a decison...so if you can bet on that, do so..:) markham has faced the better competition and having experience in the ifl, he should have another tko win here.

    markham by tko late in the first.



    Nate Loughran Vs. Johnny Rees - i don't know much about either of these fighters, other than they are both undefeated and both have almost all of their wins by submission. maybe they cancel each other out and it turns out to be a standing affair. i'll wait to make a prediction on fantasy leaugue for this one...but it's a coin flip, it seems. both making their debut...

    50/50



    James Giboo Vs. Brad Blackburn - blackburn has more experience, another fighter from the ifl. he's definitely faced the better competition, but he's only defeated a few of them. most of giboo's wins are by submission, but it's deceiving because about half of those submission wins were due to strikes. it this wasn't a debut for both of them i would say blackburn by decision, but instead i'll go with him getting the tko.

    blackburn by tko late in the second round.



    Shannon Gugerty Vs. Dale Hartt - really don't know anything about gugerty, but have heard really good things about hartt. a 5-0 LW with no decisions. just from looking at gurgerty's record, it would seem that he likes the submissions. hartt may be able to keep this standing and get the ko or tko.

    hartt by tko in the second round.
  • :eek:

    Quinton Jackson arrested, facing felony hit-and-run charge in California
    MMAjunkie.com Staff
    Jul 15, 2008

    Former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson has been arrested and faces multiple felony charges stemming from an alleged hit-and-run and a subsequent police chase in California.

    Jackson was arrested today and bail has been set at $25,000, according to a representative from the Costa Mesa Police Department.

    "[Jackson] was arrested, he was transported to the Orange County central jail, and he is booked there, and that's where he's at currently," Costa Mesa Police Lieutenant Paul Dondero told MMAjunkie.com.

    Jackson allegedly hit multiple cars during a short police chase Tuesday afternoon just after 1 p.m. PT. He eventually pulled over and surrendered to police after traveling from Costa Mesa to Newport Beach in California. No injuries were reported.

    "He was arrested for violation of felony evading, hit-and-run and reckless driving," Lt. Dondero said.

    Jackson could be in court as early as Thursday.

    "He's just been arrested, so nothing's been established," Lt. Dondero said. "If he's released on bail, that's an option. He would be given a court date to appear. If he's kept in custody, then he could go to court as early as maybe Thursday morning."

    MMAjunkie.com was unable to reach Jackson's manager, Juanito Ibarra.

    A set of photographs taken by a bystander captured Jackson being arrested next to a pick-up truck that bears a large portrait of the fighter. The photographs also showed police officers with their guns drawn while Jackson lie on his stomach in the middle of the road.

    Jackson, 30, lost his UFC light-heavyweight title earlier this month at UFC 86. The loss -- his first in more than three years -- snapped a six-fight win streak. The longtime veteran of the now-defunct PRIDE Fighting Championships entered the UFC after the organization purchased -- and disbanded -- the World Fighting Alliance, a Las Vegas-based organization to which Jackson was signed.

    MMAjunkie.com will have additional details on this story as they become available.

    (Update, 7:57 p.m. ET: A source at the John Wayne Airport in Orange County, Calif. told MMAjunkie.com that Dana White recently de-boarded a private plan. According to Yahoo! Sports, White is there to post bail for Jackson.)

    http://mmajunkie.com/news/4811/quinton-jackson-arrested-facing-felony-hit-and-run-charge-in-california.mma
  • it's crazy! i just saw the pictures of rampage face down on the pavement, surrounded by officers with guns drawn. he was driving his truck with the toyo tires logo on it, camo paint...AND a huge picture of himself on the door!

    what's going on with rampage?!?!
  • ProteusProteus Posts: 166
    I really hate seeing that and I hope he comes back from it.
    FUEL AND RELEASE!!! happiness is good FOR AN hour... FUEL AND RE-LEASE!!! happines is good FOR an HOU-ER.
    --P. Farrell
  • yeah, i was shocked! apparently it just started with a crash, i'm not sure how serious or minor. i wonder why rampage would leave the scene, and then try to get away from the police?

    i guess we'll have to wait for more details...
  • there are a few more details in this story about what happened...



    RAMPAGE JACKSON ARRESTED IN CALIFORNIA
    Tuesday, July 15, 2008
    by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com


    Former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson was arrested Tuesday afternoon at about 1:30 p.m. Pacific Time in Newport Beach, Calif. on suspicion of felony evading, hit-and-run and reckless driving.

    According to Lt. Paul Dondero of the Costa Mesa Police Department, “A Costa Mesa traffic officer observed a large pick-up weaving in and out of traffic” with a blown out front left tire. The driver of that pick-up was later identified as Quinton Jackson.

    The officer attempted to get the driver to stop, but he did not. Instead, he continued to evade police as he headed southbound on Newport Boulevard. At one point, the driver crossed over a median, “causing pedestrians to flee, going the wrong way on the northbound side of Newport Boulevard,” heading into oncoming traffic.

    The chase continued with the driver hitting a parked vehicle, running through red lights, and causing more pedestrians to jump out of the path of the pick-up, one front left tire now disintegrated.

    The pursuit eventually came to a halt as the pick-up stopped near 18th Street on the Balboa Peninsula.

    After being taken into custody by the Costa Mesa Police Department, Jackson was later transferred to the Orange County Police Department with bail set at $25,000.

    Lt. Dondero said that Jackson is also under suspicion from the California Highway Patrol of being involved in two other separate collisions that occurred earlier on the 55 freeway.

    There were no charges of drugs or alcohol being involved, according to Lt. Dondero.

    UFC president Dana White reportedly has flown to Orange County to post bail for Jackson, according to Kevin Iole and Dave Meltzer of Yahoo! Sports.

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6700&zoneid=2
  • leafs4ever wrote:
    really? I don't know anything about him... you think he'd have a chance to beat Aleksander?

    He kind of looks fat and out of shape, but he hits hard. I wouldn't get crazy but I might try $20.
  • there are a few more details in this story about what happened...



    RAMPAGE JACKSON ARRESTED IN CALIFORNIA
    Tuesday, July 15, 2008
    by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com


    Former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson was arrested Tuesday afternoon at about 1:30 p.m. Pacific Time in Newport Beach, Calif. on suspicion of felony evading, hit-and-run and reckless driving.

    According to Lt. Paul Dondero of the Costa Mesa Police Department, “A Costa Mesa traffic officer observed a large pick-up weaving in and out of traffic” with a blown out front left tire. The driver of that pick-up was later identified as Quinton Jackson.

    The officer attempted to get the driver to stop, but he did not. Instead, he continued to evade police as he headed southbound on Newport Boulevard. At one point, the driver crossed over a median, “causing pedestrians to flee, going the wrong way on the northbound side of Newport Boulevard,” heading into oncoming traffic.

    The chase continued with the driver hitting a parked vehicle, running through red lights, and causing more pedestrians to jump out of the path of the pick-up, one front left tire now disintegrated.

    The pursuit eventually came to a halt as the pick-up stopped near 18th Street on the Balboa Peninsula.

    After being taken into custody by the Costa Mesa Police Department, Jackson was later transferred to the Orange County Police Department with bail set at $25,000.

    Lt. Dondero said that Jackson is also under suspicion from the California Highway Patrol of being involved in two other separate collisions that occurred earlier on the 55 freeway.

    There were no charges of drugs or alcohol being involved, according to Lt. Dondero.

    UFC president Dana White reportedly has flown to Orange County to post bail for Jackson, according to Kevin Iole and Dave Meltzer of Yahoo! Sports.

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/templates/dailynews.asp?articleid=6700&zoneid=2

    Rampage gets a bad Decision loss , and now look what happens.
    I love watching Rampage , hopefully he doesn't get made an example of.
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