UFC 85: London, England: Matt Hughes Vs. Thiago Alves / The Ultimate Fighter 7

mookie blaylock 10

oop! just realized as the west coast feed starts here that this wasn't live on the west coast...

so if anybody is out there watching this...i think i am the only one , don't read the previous posts!

igotid88

Kimbo almost lost there.

pearljammin41

it was rigged.... shouldnt have been a stoppage

mookie blaylock 10

igotid88 wrote:

Kimbo almost lost there.

i thought it was going to be stopped in the second when thompson was landing those elbows. could have been called then and probably would have been a good stoppage. kimbo wasn't doing anything to defend himself.

beachdweller

not reading since I'm in the west and the fights are still going on, but how has Dana White, a shrewed business man, not get female MMA fights in the UFC before CBS?

the girls kicked ass, love Muay Thai, Gina has great hands...

mookie blaylock 10

beachdweller wrote:

not reading since I'm in the west and the fights are still going on, but how has Dana White, a shrewed business man, not get female MMA fights in the UFC before CBS?

the girls kicked ass, love Muay Thai, Gina has great hands...

great fight, eh? good to see you beachdweller!

sorry, again i forget about the west coast. :(

yeah, dana still says he doesn't like to see women fight, but fights like that could change his mind. there are quite a few excellent women's matches out there, but not many people have seen them yet.

i hope that the show they just put on gets more people intrigued. great heart shown by kaitlin, but you're right, in the end it was gina's better hands and combinations that won it for her.

a gogoplata attempt and a rear naked choke at the bell is quite impressive for her too!

mookie blaylock 10

oh, and the teap she used over and over again to set up those punch combos worked to perfection. very nice.

beachdweller

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

great fight, eh? good to see you beachdweller!

sorry, again i forget about the west coast. :(

yeah, dana still says he doesn't like to see women fight, but fights like that could change his mind. there are quite a few excellent women's matches out there, but not many people have seen them yet.

i hope that the show they just put on gets more people intrigued. great heart shown by kaitlin, but you're right, in the end it was gina's better hands and combinations that won it for her.

a gogoplata attempt and a rear naked choke at the bell is quite impressive for her too!

don't let me hold up anyone talking about fights, lol

mookie blaylock 10

beachdweller wrote:

don't let me hold up anyone talking about fights, lol

i ended up talking to myself! haha no one else was posting during the show...

i won't post any spoilers now, of course!

beachdweller

if CBS makes MMA on CBS a mainstay, I wonder what effect it'll have on the UFC pay per views overtime? can't be good if they start getting any UFC talent. I've been pissed with the UFC pay per view prices rising yet again. 34.95, then 39.95, not 44.95...even with spreading the price with friends it irratates me. Yet, I continue to pay, lol

beachdweller

I don't like the announcers at all, they have me missing the legendary announcing of Jim Brown.

mookie blaylock 10

beachdweller wrote:

I don't like the announcers at all, they have me missing the legendary announcing of Jim Brown.

jim brown was ahead of his time! i seriously think he was the only one who had a clue about what he was saying on the first ufc.


"what we learned here today is that fighting is not what we thought it was."

i used to dislike mauro's style when he first started doing pride, but he actually grows on you a bit. i like him now. i can see how would seem annoying, though. gus seems a bit green, and frank is being frank.

beachdweller

wow, Lawler/Smith fight has been pretty good, one big difference, Smith miss on most punches, Lawler was on target far more often, and went down to the body much more.

here comes round 3

mookie blaylock 10

i think robbie lawler was doing the "you're not going to get me with that" when he shook his head after it looked like smith was hurt to the body. smith did the same thing in the sell fight when he was hurt badly on a hook to the body and when sell came in looking for the finish, smith blasted him with a stright right hand to knock him out.

...in any case, i think smith was actually hurt there...:)

great fight, though! what a back and forth battle!

beachdweller

sorry mr announcer, Lawler is not even close to being in the same league as Anderson Silva

mookie blaylock 10

beachdweller wrote:

wow, Lawler/Smith fight has been pretty good, one big difference, Smith miss on most punches, Lawler was on target far more often, and went down to the body much more.

here comes round 3

robbie's looking WAY more technical than i have seen him in the past. really impressive. smith's got power when he lands, but you're right...he's missing more than landing. when he first came at lawler he threw a big home run swing and lawler slowed him down immediately with a sharp counter. first round ended with excitement and the second was all out!

both guys are definitely willing to stand and strike!

mookie blaylock 10

beachdweller wrote:

sorry mr announcer, Lawler is not even close to being in the same league as Anderson Silva

agreed.

beachdweller

WTF? his eye looks fine...that's right bullshit! very bad showing for Elite XC! Should have given him his five minutes of recovery time and checked the eye again...

mookie blaylock 10

watching it again, i'm still confused.

the fighters pretty much called the break themselves, the ref calls time to give smith time to recover and the doctor stops it almost immediately? smith obviously wanted to continue, but just needed a moment to recover from the accidental poke.

disappointing end to what was a great battle.

leafs4ever

mookie blaylock 10 wrote:

*whispers in death bed voice*... "put me back in, bj...put me back in, gray..." trying to do my gabe impression there...:D


this is part of the controversy and why some people dislike gina, although many people seem to find no reason to dislike her. they just dislike her. elite xc made a 140 womens's division "for her" and a 160 division "for" nick diaz. they said they were trying to make an attempt to start bringing in more weight classes, which would be a good thing in my opinion, but really it was because diaz and gina are two of their biggest stars and diaz can't make 155, and gina has a great deal of difficulty making 135. she nearly kills herself to make 140! they should just go with 135, 145, 155 for the female division, but there's really no one out there to fight in the 145 and 155 lb. range unless 135 fighters start fighting at 145 and stop cutting weight. hope it works itself out as the sport grows.

it's weird, because gina looked like death making 141.1 last time...no worries the time before that and this time she looked very fit, but was 3.5 over in any case, i'm happy she didn't deplete herself for this show too much, but at the same time the fight was signed at 140...so it is a bit unprofessional. i'm not sure kaitlin cares too much, though. she dropped 10 lbs. herself for this one, and gina had to try to lose the 20 lbs. she had to gain for american gladiators season two in a month! not an easy task.

i just downloaded the inside mma episode today. thanks for the heads up. i'll have to watch it later, though, as i just woke up in time to catch the show...damn, missed the pre-lims online! :mad:

i think the very shady gary shaw is the "other guy"...shady and creepy, that guy...

Sorry I wasn't around tonight man. I had a bunch of friends over for the fights and kind of got caught up in all of that. Was a great night of fights and i was really impressed with what elite did tonight. I was upset by the stoppage of the Lawler/Smith fight, i really think smith would have been ready after with the 5minutes to compose himself. Gina/Katline was a great fight aswell, both gassed in the 2nd but gina fought it out and deserved the win. Kimbo was really tested tonight and really didn't like the stoppage at first, then a buddy pointed out thompson's eyes and i guess it was an ok stoppage. Kimbo was really in trouble if it went to the judges so i want to believe it wasn't a bad stoppage.
ok i'm about to re-watch the fights now that everybody is gone. I will reply to your thoughts on tonight



hahahaha excatly what i was thinking about gabe.

ya gina looked good but i could see here making the 140 if she put everything into it and cut a bit earlier or tried to stay at about 155-160 normally. Like you said, she has a lot on her plate right now and may be doing a little too much. I hope she has the time to fully prepare for her next fight.

no this guy seemed pretty cool, was sucking up to kimbo alot though lol. just looked it up and it was jared shaw i think... a brother of gary???