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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    that'd be an ok second place prize, although he might cost a bit more.
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    What I wanna know is how you can trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent before getting a season out of the player. Tell your sport to get its shit together.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    What I wanna know is how you can trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent before getting a season out of the player. Tell your sport to get its shit together.
    Essentially it's a trade for that players bargaining rights and the upper hand to sign him before other teams get a shot at him.

    Go eat some peanuts and cracker jacks, will you?
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    Rygar wrote:
    What I wanna know is how you can trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent before getting a season out of the player. Tell your sport to get its shit together.
    Essentially it's a trade for that players bargaining rights and the upper hand to sign him before other teams get a shot at him.

    Go eat some peanuts and cracker jacks, will you?

    Without consent of knowing whether he'll sign? They do that shit in other sports, but the trade doesn't go through until the player agrees to the contract. You poutine eatin' bastid.
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    Rygar wrote:
    What I wanna know is how you can trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent before getting a season out of the player. Tell your sport to get its shit together.
    Essentially it's a trade for that players bargaining rights and the upper hand to sign him before other teams get a shot at him.

    Go eat some peanuts and cracker jacks, will you?

    Without consent of knowing whether he'll sign? They do that shit in other sports, but the trade doesn't go through until the player agrees to the contract. You poutine eatin' bastid.
    They often know beforehand, and a lot of the the time they'll make that a condition of the trade (i.e. trade a conditional draft pick for the player's rights, and if he doesn't sign it's a shitty draft pick and if he does it is a slightly less shitty draft pick).

    Go have some more french fried pertaters.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    Rygar wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    Essentially it's a trade for that players bargaining rights and the upper hand to sign him before other teams get a shot at him.

    Go eat some peanuts and cracker jacks, will you?

    Without consent of knowing whether he'll sign? They do that shit in other sports, but the trade doesn't go through until the player agrees to the contract. You poutine eatin' bastid.
    They often know beforehand, and a lot of the the time they'll make that a condition of the trade (i.e. trade a conditional draft pick for the player's rights, and if he doesn't sign it's a shitty draft pick and if he does it is a slightly less shitty draft pick).

    Go have some more french fried pertaters.

    Hamhuis shipped to Pittsburgh for a 2011 3rd round draft pick. Ahhhh, sunrise, sunset.

    Now go dip something in mayo!
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    edited June 2010
    What I wanna know is how you can trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent before getting a season out of the player. Tell your sport to get its shit together.

    agreed. the winter sports are inferior. let's trade guys who don't have contracts...or guys with expiring contracts. stupid.

    the winter sports are a bridge between football and baseball. and in jearlpams' case, soccer.. haha
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    so they traded parent for nabokov...and acquired a 3rd round pick.

    pens lose gonchar and replace him with hamhuis. gotta think that's a win. carcillo/hartnell will have homer's back...hamhuis is a dead man

    I don't love the moves...but if the dude didn't want to play here you can't make him. pussy is now public enemy number 3...after cindy and shrek.

    parent was terrible in playoffs. I still think he's gonna be solid. sucks jeff carter and his frosted tips are still here.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    The Fixer wrote:
    What I wanna know is how you can trade for a guy who is going to be a free agent before getting a season out of the player. Tell your sport to get its shit together.

    agreed. the winter sports are inferior. let's trade guys who don't have contracts...or guys with expiring contracts. stupid.

    the winter sports are a bridge between football and baseball. and in jearlpams' case, soccer.. haha

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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    The Fixer wrote:
    so they traded parent for nabokov...and acquired a 3rd round pick.

    pens lose gonchar and replace him with hamhuis. gotta think that's a win. carcillo/hartnell will have homer's back...hamhuis is a dead man

    I don't love the moves...but if the dude didn't want to play here you can't make him. pussy is now public enemy number 3...after cindy and shrek.

    parent was terrible in playoffs. I still think he's gonna be solid. sucks jeff carter and his frosted tips are still here.

    Can you really blame Hamhuis (if he didn't want to sign there)? He's not going to get top pair minutes in Philly... Not sure what Homer was thinking bringing him in the first place... You trade a young roster player (even with a bit of a rough time, he's a 23 year old first round pick d-man), for negotiating rights for someone that doesn't even fit as a top need for the team.
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  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    Rygar wrote:

    Without consent of knowing whether he'll sign? They do that shit in other sports, but the trade doesn't go through until the player agrees to the contract. You poutine eatin' bastid.
    They often know beforehand, and a lot of the the time they'll make that a condition of the trade (i.e. trade a conditional draft pick for the player's rights, and if he doesn't sign it's a shitty draft pick and if he does it is a slightly less shitty draft pick).

    Go have some more french fried pertaters.

    Hamhuis shipped to Pittsburgh for a 2011 3rd round draft pick. Ahhhh, sunrise, sunset.

    Now go dip something in mayo!
    Like I told you, although unlike Philadelphia, Pittsburgh probably knew something before the trade ;)
    Now, isn't there an apple pie on ma's windowsill that you should be scheming to steal?
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    The Fixer wrote:
    so they traded parent for nabokov...and acquired a 3rd round pick.

    pens lose gonchar and replace him with hamhuis. gotta think that's a win. carcillo/hartnell will have homer's back...hamhuis is a dead man

    I don't love the moves...but if the dude didn't want to play here you can't make him. pussy is now public enemy number 3...after cindy and shrek.

    parent was terrible in playoffs. I still think he's gonna be solid. sucks jeff carter and his frosted tips are still here.

    Can you really blame Hamhuis (if he didn't want to sign there)? He's not going to get top pair minutes in Philly... Not sure what Homer was thinking bringing him in the first place... You trade a young roster player (even with a bit of a rough time, he's a 23 year old first round pick d-man), for negotiating rights for someone that doesn't even fit as a top need for the team.

    I'm a little surprised Homer traded for the guy if the guy wants to test the market..but Parent was not going to get ice time here he's too soft and turnover prone

    I'd rather see the Flyers go after Volchenkov if they free up the money

    Last I heard on Hambone was he wants to go to the West Coast so I doubt he signs with the Pens
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    Rygar wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    They often know beforehand, and a lot of the the time they'll make that a condition of the trade (i.e. trade a conditional draft pick for the player's rights, and if he doesn't sign it's a shitty draft pick and if he does it is a slightly less shitty draft pick).

    Go have some more french fried pertaters.

    Hamhuis shipped to Pittsburgh for a 2011 3rd round draft pick. Ahhhh, sunrise, sunset.

    Now go dip something in mayo!
    Like I told you, although unlike Philadelphia, Pittsburgh probably knew something before the trade ;)
    Now, isn't there an apple pie on ma's windowsill that you should be scheming to steal?

    Wait, so Pittsburgh - in all their research - waited for the Flyers(or whoever it would be) to make the trade first, and then trade with them for his rights giving up more than the Flyers did? :?

    Shouldn't you be spending your time writing all of this in English and French Canadian?
  • RygarRygar Posts: 8,685
    Rygar wrote:
    Like I told you, although unlike Philadelphia, Pittsburgh probably knew something before the trade ;)
    Now, isn't there an apple pie on ma's windowsill that you should be scheming to steal?

    Wait, so Pittsburgh - in all their research - waited for the Flyers(or whoever it would be) to make the trade first, and then trade with them for his rights giving up more than the Flyers did? :?

    Shouldn't you be spending your time writing all of this in English and French Canadian?
    They gave up less than the Flyers did - a draft pick, whereas the Flyers traded an NHL established player (regardless of you fans disliking him).

    Shouldn't you be out on the porch shooting antique cans with your many guns?
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Rygar wrote:
    Rygar wrote:
    They often know beforehand, and a lot of the the time they'll make that a condition of the trade (i.e. trade a conditional draft pick for the player's rights, and if he doesn't sign it's a shitty draft pick and if he does it is a slightly less shitty draft pick).

    Go have some more french fried pertaters.

    Hamhuis shipped to Pittsburgh for a 2011 3rd round draft pick. Ahhhh, sunrise, sunset.

    Now go dip something in mayo!
    Like I told you, although unlike Philadelphia, Pittsburgh probably knew something before the trade ;)
    Now, isn't there an apple pie on ma's windowsill that you should be scheming to steal?

    Ray Shero was the Asst GM in Nashville when Hamhuis was drafted and broke into the league there... hopefully there is some sort of relationship there, and Shero thinks he has a pretty good shot at signing him. We'll see this week how it all works out...
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    According to league sources, the Flyers have a verbal agreement in place with the San Jose Sharks to fork over a seventh-round pick next season if they can sign San Jose's Evgeni Nabokov before July 1, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

    Don Meehan, the agent who represents Nabokov, told CSNPhilly.com earlier that his client's no-trade clause is not an issue. San Jose obviously has given the Flyers permission to get a deal done and Meehan is willing to engage the Flyers ahead of July 1.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    The Fixer wrote:
    so they traded parent for nabokov...and acquired a 3rd round pick.

    pens lose gonchar and replace him with hamhuis. gotta think that's a win. carcillo/hartnell will have homer's back...hamhuis is a dead man

    I don't love the moves...but if the dude didn't want to play here you can't make him. pussy is now public enemy number 3...after cindy and shrek.

    parent was terrible in playoffs. I still think he's gonna be solid. sucks jeff carter and his frosted tips are still here.

    Can you really blame Hamhuis (if he didn't want to sign there)? He's not going to get top pair minutes in Philly... Not sure what Homer was thinking bringing him in the first place... You trade a young roster player (even with a bit of a rough time, he's a 23 year old first round pick d-man), for negotiating rights for someone that doesn't even fit as a top need for the team.


    nashville's GM didn't give holmgren the right to negotiate a contract with hamhuis before the trade (another stupid NHL rule).

    hamhuis is a bitch...so he would have played 20 minutes instead of 24 a game. whatever. Holmgren made same type of deal to get hartnell and timonen from nashville. and he signed both guys within 2 days.
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    81 wrote:
    According to league sources, the Flyers have a verbal agreement in place with the San Jose Sharks to fork over a seventh-round pick next season if they can sign San Jose's Evgeni Nabokov before July 1, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent.

    Don Meehan, the agent who represents Nabokov, told CSNPhilly.com earlier that his client's no-trade clause is not an issue. San Jose obviously has given the Flyers permission to get a deal done and Meehan is willing to engage the Flyers ahead of July 1.

    apparently this turd wants to be a free agent too. no one wants to play for the flyers. what's up with that?

    I'm indifferent about the nabokov thing. beezer reincarnated. awesome
  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    i can understand why he wnats to be a free agent. i'm guessing i would do the same thing unless i really wanted to play for a team. it's going to be his last contract, max it out and then get the best team to match it.
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  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    81 wrote:
    i can understand why he wnats to be a free agent. i'm guessing i would do the same thing unless i really wanted to play for a team. it's going to be his last contract, max it out and then get the best team to match it.

    Yeah..I dont think its as much as guys not wanting to play here but more of them wanting to test the market

    With that said...I'm getting more convinced that Leighton will be our number 1 goalie
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I know the offseason is far from over, so it's not fair to judge yet. this offseason has not gone too well so far though.

    gave parent away for a 3rd rounder (weakening the defense and possibly helping the pens in the process)
    haven't acquired a goalie not named leighton
    carter still on the roster

    hopefully holmgren has some tricks up his sleeve

    EDIT -- now they're going after turco. ugh
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Leighton signed for 2 years.

    I think amaro has been running the flyers for the last month. Just horrible moves have been made
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Just as I said earlier Leighton would be back

    Hopefully they go after Volchenkov
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  • 8181 Posts: 58,276
    there is still the trade deadline.
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Just as I said earlier Leighton would be back

    Hopefully they go after Volchenkov

    yeah man, unfortunately you were right. can't say I'm surprised.

    looks like dan ellis is the next target. I actually don't mind that...I'd prefer him to turco
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    flyers traded a 2nd rounder for Meszaros. also signed coburn to a 2 year deal. D gonna be sick if they don't make any trades.

    this pretty much caps out their spending. looks like holmgren is sticking with the pu pu platter in net. again
  • Phantom PainPhantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I think they had about 9mil to work with 4m a year to Meszaros for the next 3-4yrs I heard ? Also heard he's coming off shoulder surgery :sigh:

    I like keeping Coburn but Goaltending is still shaky

    If they limit the chances I guess Leighton can be good
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  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    I think they had about 9mil to work with 4m a year to Meszaros for the next 3-4yrs I heard ? Also heard he's coming off shoulder surgery :sigh:

    I like keeping Coburn but Goaltending is still shaky

    If they limit the chances I guess Leighton can be good

    I'm still holding out hope for a carter trade. If they move him for a goalie and winger this team is stacked
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Posts: 17,042
    Who the fuck is Meszaros?
  • The FixerThe Fixer Posts: 12,837
    Who the fuck is Meszaros?

    any time you can trade for a guy whose first name ends with a 'J' you have to do it.
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