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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    Rygar wrote:
    Nah, I'm just kidding. McCabe doesn't make too many mistakes, but when he does they're doozies :p
    He does log a ton of game time. Sounds like he's headed to Florida to join his buddy Wade anyway.

    yeah I saw...oh well..just hope we dont land Shannahan...the man is ancient..like. Chelios
    Shows:
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    petrocs wrote:
    yeah I saw...oh well..just hope we dont land Shannahan...the man is ancient..like. Chelios
    He may be old, but he's still effective.
    I think Shanny only wants to play for the Rags anyway, who I think are only 1 or 2 mil under their cap?
  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    Rygar wrote:
    He may be old, but he's still effective.
    I think Shanny only wants to play for the Rags anyway, who I think are only 1 or 2 mil under their cap?

    we are above the cap...until Hatcher decides to not play...ugh he's killing em...his knees cant take another season
    Shows:
    9/24/96 MD. 9/28/96 Randalls. 8/28-29/98 Camden. 9/8/98 NJ. 9/18/98 MD. 9/1-2/00 Camden. 9/4/00 MD. 4/28/03 Philly. 7/5-6/03 Camden. 9/30/05 AC.
    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,919
    Just realized you said preseason also !

    I should have noticed that just by the date

    Thats sucks

    has to be pre-season as the Flyers have too many season tickets in the wachovia center to accommodate them all in the Spctrum. Sixers don't have that problem so they are playing a regular season game there.
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    petrocs wrote:
    we are above the cap...until Hatcher decides to not play...ugh he's killing em...his knees cant take another season
    Still time to get under yet.
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    pjhawks wrote:
    has to be pre-season as the Flyers have too many season tickets in the wachovia center to accommodate them all in the Spctrum. Sixers don't have that problem so they are playing a regular season game there.

    its not the season tickets, its the club box and suites. There are not enough of those ementities to accomidate everyone. So the suite and club box owners are making exceptions and taking similar seats for the preseason game... bottomline, less tickets for the general public and more on StubHub, EBay, and the Flyers resale site.
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  • Phantom Pain
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    petrocs wrote:
    Mats Sundin's agent, J.P. Barry has been in constant communication with the Rangers because of the free agent center's interest in joining the team, according to the New York Post.
    No numbers have been exchanged, according to the Post, which said Sundin's second choice is Philadelphia.

    Barry downplayed the rumor, saying there have not been increased discussions with the Rangers, according to TSN.ca.

    "Everybody has been calling regularly trying to get an idea of when his timetable is. Mainly I have just told them we have talked about everything and right now it's just for him to decide," Barry told TSN.ca.

    The Rangers have only around $2M in cap space and would have to shed some salary to pay Sundin in the $5M-$7M range. The Flyers are already above the salary cap.

    According to the Toronto Sun, a reporter for Canada's Sportsnet channel caught up with Sundin on a golf course in Sweden and asked him when he expects to decide between retirement and returning to the NHL.

    "I haven't decided yet," Sundin told Sportsnet last week, according to the Sun. "I think sometime in August I hope to come to a conclusion on what I'm going to do ... if I'm going to play or not this year."

    Sundin also addressed whether the delay might affect his fitness for the coming season.

    "I stay in shape. I work out all the time so I'm not worried about the conditioning part," Sundin told Sportsnet, according to the Sun.

    Sundin, 37, had been expected to announce Aug. 1 whether he intended to play or retire, but Barry changed that to mean sometime in August. As a result, many believe the long time to make a decision means Sundin is leaning toward retirement.

    "He's avoiding a [Brett] Favre-like mistake by taking his time," Barry told TSN.

    Barry previously said six teams are vying for Sundin's services. Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver are confirmed to be pursuing him, with the Canucks' two-year, $20M offer the richest of any offer.

    "He is extremely flattered by the interest, and the ongoing interest in Vancouver and Montreal in particular, but the key is making that personal decision on playing," Barry told the Vancouver Sun.

    I just read this today...not sure I like it

    I would hate to get rid a young core player to make cap space
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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    I just read this today...not sure I like it

    I would hate to get rid a young core player to make cap space


    Yeah well I just read that they'd probably have to trade Briere or Carter to do it....GET OUT OF HERE!
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    petrocs wrote:
    Yeah well I just read that they'd probably have to trade Briere or Carter to do it....GET OUT OF HERE!

    That sounds like an old Clarkie move

    Get a wiley veteran at the expense of a young guy

    Definitely wouldn't do that !
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  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    I like this guys blog...he's usually dead on

    http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?blogger_id=45


    The impression I get of the Flyers' reported interest in Mats Sundin is that Paul Holmgren has done his due diligence on the veteran star, but the odds of him signing in Philadelphia remain low.

    The only way I could see the Flyers being able to get Sundin under the cap would be if they made a series of roster moves to create the space to sign him.

    The only way Jeff Carter would be traded is if the club got another established young player in return (such as Jay Bouwmeester), whom they would sign to a long-term contract that kicks for the 2009-10 season. But even if such a move were made, the 2008-09 salaries for Bouwmeester and Carter would more or less be a wash, leaving no room for Sundin.

    The Flyers could deal Mike Knuble (an impending UFA who doesn't have a no-trade clause in his contract), but that still wouldn't get them into Sundin's likely salary range. Daniel Briere has a no-trade clause in his contract and carries a hefty $6.5 million cap hit per season through 2012-13. It would be very hard to trade him under those circumstances, even if the Flyers were inclined to do so.

    A final option could be dealing Scott Hartnell ($4.2 million cap hit through 2012-13, does not have an NTC). That would free up considerable cap space but would leave the club rather soft on the wing unless someone like Arron Asham or Steve Downie steps into his role. While Hartnell isn't a natural scorer by any means, he's a proven 20-goal guy on top of his physical play and agitation.

    Hartnell is perhaps a bit overpaid for the role he plays, but he neverthless provides a lot of the intangibles that helped the club make the strides it took last season. Subtracting Hartnell to add Sundin wouldn't necessarily get the Flyers any closer to the Stanley Cup Finals than they got last year. The more pressing need still seems to be the one for another bonafide top-three defenseman. You can win in the playoffs with Scott Hartnell as a winger on the first, second or third line. You probably won't win with Randy Jones as your default number three defenseman (which isn't a knock on Jones).

    The bottom line is that I don't see a fit between Sundin and the Flyers. At least not in the salary cap age.

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  • petrocs
    petrocs Posts: 4,342
    Fine with me...I'd rather a big time lineman anyways
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    10/3/05 Philly. 5/27-28/06 Camden. 6/23/06 Pitt. 6/19-20/08 Camden. 6/24/08 MSG. 8/7/08 EV Newark, NJ. 6/11-12/09 EV Philly, PA. 10/27-28-30-31/09 Philly, PA., 5/15/10 Hartford,5/17/10 Boston, 5/18/10 Newark, 5/20-21/10 MSG
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    My drinking team has a hockey problem

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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Nasty. They need to piss off with this shit and just keep the same sets for back to back years for a change.
  • Phantom Pain
    Phantom Pain Posts: 9,876
    Rygar wrote:
    Nasty. They need to piss off with this shit and just keep the same sets for back to back years for a change.

    Some are brutal, eh?

    I'm a sucker I'll probably buy the Flyers one

    :o
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    Some are brutal, eh?

    I'm a sucker I'll probably buy the Flyers one

    :o
    I need one of the new Reebok jersey's, and I have a nice Koivu CCM jersey, and that'll do for me ;)
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    I hope the Flyers don't get Sundin or even try.... that said, the article skipped another possiblity to free up cap space. Dumping both Knuble and Upshall would free up about $7mill in cap... probably not enough for Sundin but a possibility nonetheless.
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  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    chromiam wrote:
    I hope the Flyers don't get Sundin or even try.... that said, the article skipped another possiblity to free up cap space. Dumping both Knuble and Upshall would free up about $7mill in cap... probably not enough for Sundin but a possibility nonetheless.
    Depends on whether or not you believe Sundin. If you do, $7 million is enough.
  • chromiam
    chromiam Posts: 4,114
    Rygar wrote:
    Depends on whether or not you believe Sundin. If you do, $7 million is enough.

    Honestly, I like the makeup of the Flyers right now and don't wanna screw with it unless it is to get a solid D-man. To me, bringing in Sundin would be like bringing back Forsberg and we all saw how well that worked out for the Flyers.
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  • NY PJ1
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    chromiam wrote:
    Honestly, I like the makeup of the Flyers right now and don't wanna screw with it unless it is to get a solid D-man. To me, bringing in Sundin would be like bringing back Forsberg and we all saw how well that worked out for the Flyers.


    yea but forsberg was hurt

    if sundin is healthy ,,the man can play
  • Rygar
    Rygar Posts: 8,711
    chromiam wrote:
    Honestly, I like the makeup of the Flyers right now and don't wanna screw with it unless it is to get a solid D-man. To me, bringing in Sundin would be like bringing back Forsberg and we all saw how well that worked out for the Flyers.
    That's true.
    I'm hoping Montreal lands him, because we wouldn't have to give up much of worth to fit him in. I expect Sundin to end up in Vancouver or Toronto though. Maybe NYR.
    And NY PJ1 is right - Sundin can indeed play.