I hope dunkman goes to a place that has automatic gratuity. Many places in Manhattan do, because there are so many tourists who are either cheap or "don't know to tip".
i'll just remove the automatic gratuity off the bill.. its not legal.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
if the employers paid their workers a decent wage in the first place we wouldnt have to tip.
absolutely!
quite honestly though, i think there may be a good # of waitstaff in the US who actually would prefer the status quo. why? b/c a 'decent' wage probably would not equate what they presently make in tips. however, you bet, i agree....they should get better pay, imo in line with retail staff as they are similar in being service industries and skills, no special training, no education requirements, etc. the abolition of tipping would be a great thing, no issues, no wondering, all built into the price of goods and services and a decent, set wage.
the abolition of tipping would be a great thing, no issues, no wondering, all built into the price of goods and services and a decent, set wage.
you just described the whole of Europe... we are such a civilised society are we not? here in the UK we even have our sales tax added into the price at all times... now you Americans might lead the way in things like gun deaths and eating, but us Euros lead the modern world when it comes to our pricing structures
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
quite honestly though, i think there may be a good # of waitstaff in the US who actually would prefer the status quo. why? b/c a 'decent' wage probably would not equate what they presently make in tips. however, you bet, i agree....they should get better pay, imo in line with retail staff as they are similar in being service industries and skills, no special training, no education requirements, etc. the abolition of tipping would be a great thing, no issues, no wondering, all built into the price of goods and services and a decent, set wage.
and don't forget taxes. How many servers do you think underreport their tips
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you just described the whole of Europe... we are such a civilised society are we not? here in the UK we even have our sales tax added into the price at all times... now you Americans might lead the way in things like gun deaths and eating, but us Euros lead the modern world when it comes to our pricing structures
do you have differing taxing levels on goods and services in different parts of the country? here in the US, taxes on good and services are determined at the county and state level. hell, i live in nassau, work in manhattan, and both have different tax levels. so while it may seem 'easier' to have taxes built into the prices, i DO understand why they are not....so that the TRUE cost of the goods/services are represented, and a customer can see what the tax level is, if any. some states don't have sales tax at all, many vary exactly what they do/don't tax, etc. so a national company wants to represent their prices across the board, and let the tax levels be completely transparent. i have ZERO issue with that.
in regards to tipping, whole other arguement. i have always agreed it is ridiculous, no idea how or why it truly came about into it's current form and you bet...would love to see it change. however, it is what it is right now...so i follow custom and sure, reward truly excellent, above par service. i would truly love to see change, but again in the scheme of things not really that an *important* an issue.
as to your comparisons, i couldn't care less. i feel no need to say what is better/worse, it doesn't even matter to me. i love where i live, warts and all. however, at least i have actually visited numerous countries in europe whereas you've never even stepped foot on american soil. how great it is to judge from afar.
btw - as far as i recall, tipping DOES exist in many european countries. it may not be as prevalent or 'expected' but it does still exist.
and don't forget taxes. How many servers do you think underreport their tips
of course!
and beyond that, it's simply not waitstaff, it's the whole tipping culture is out of hand imo. tip the girl who washes my hair in the salon, then tip the hairdresser, tip your manicurist, masseuse, doorman, valet, etc, etc....wherre does it end? who and when and where and how much do you tip? it gets ridiculous after awhile. tipping really SHOULD be for extra special, exemplary service, not an everyday, expected thing. people should all get a decent wage and it should be enough.
hey, i LOVEd working retail sales. it was work, but i so enjoyed it, the interactions, the various stores i worked for, etc. i was an excellent salesperson, visual designer, etc. however, unless you moved up into management or a full-time position (which are rare!)...no paid vacations, no health benefits, no 401Ks, etc.....and yea not great $$$. so although i so enjoyed the work...i moved on b/c i wanted/needed to make more $$$. and so it goes. obviously, the more education, skills, what have you...the more you make. beyond that, sure, some fields even with that will pay less or more depending on if you are in public service - such as education - or in private sector $$$making. low-skilled work only pays big $$$ if it is dangerous or considered rather undesirable. we all have to make choices. personally, i think waitstaff have it *made* in that they are one of the few jobs that DO get great tips, even though otherwise fit right in line with retail work and all. thus why i don't think waitstaff would ever fight for decent wages, they like the status quo.
do you have differing taxing levels on goods and services in different parts of the country? here in the US, taxes on good and services are determined at the county and state level. hell, i live in nassau, work in manhattan, and both have different tax levels. so while it may seem 'easier' to have taxes built into the prices, i DO understand why they are not....so that the TRUE cost of the goods/services are represented, and a customer can see what the tax level is, if any. some states don't have sales tax at all, many vary exactly what they do/don't tax, etc. so a national company wants to represent their prices across the board, and let the tax levels be completely transparent. i have ZERO issue with that.
17.5% straight across the board... VAT its called.
some stuff isnt vatable, and companies can claim VAT back on purchases... but for customers on the street VAT is already added and its a standard 17.5%
as to your comparisons, i couldn't care less. i feel no need to say what is better/worse, it doesn't even matter to me. i love where i live, warts and all. however, at least i have actually visited numerous countries in europe whereas you've never even stepped foot on american soil. how great it is to judge from afar.
i'm fond of these things i call 'jokes'.. you should try them sometime.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
17.5% straight across the board... VAT its called.
some stuff isnt vatable, and companies can claim VAT back on purchases... but for customers on the street VAT is already added and its a standard 17.5%
i'm fond of these things i call 'jokes'.. you should try them sometime.
yes, see....to me that makes a big difference. and as i said, due to how it can vary so greatly state to state, why i believe our taxes are not added in the purchase price. i think americans like to truly see the prices and taxes, seperately.
i'm fond of jokes too. when they are funny, i laugh.
btw - i guess you missed my ';)' at the end of that earlier statement, thus signifying a tongue-in-cheek comment.
second btw - 17.5% ?!
no wonder it's in the prices, who wants to see THAT!
nassau's sales tax is considered one of the highest in the nation, and we're at 8.65%.
yes, see....to me that makes a big difference. and as i said, due to how it can vary so greatly state to state, why i believe our taxes are not added in the purchase price. i think americans like to truly see the prices and taxes, seperately.
second btw - 17.5% ?!
no wonder it's in the prices, who wants to see THAT!
nassau's sales tax is considered one of the highest in the nation, and we're at 8.65%.
17.5 is nothing ... our gas/petrol prices are about 4 times your price or something ridiculous.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
17.5 is nothing ... our gas/petrol prices are about 4 times your price or something ridiculous.
THAT i knew, and it is ridiculous.....and sure, another topic.
thinking back, i do remember your sales tax was a lot higher as well but i am thinking back 20 years when i lived over there...so not too fresh in the memory. and last year for wembley, wasn't paying attnetion to ANYthing so mundane.
anyhoo....grasping at the topic here .......i DID tip in the UK, just not nearly as much nor as often as in the US, just following the custom. honestly, i cannot think of a country i've visited that i haven't tipped at all, just differently.
THAT i knew, and it is ridiculous.....and sure, another topic.
thinking back, i do remember your sales tax was a lot higher as well but i am thinking back 20 years when i lived over there...so not too fresh in the memory. and last year for wembley, wasn't paying attnetion to ANYthing so mundane.
anyhoo....grasping at the topic here .......i DID tip in the UK, just not nearly as much nor as often as in the US, just following the custom. honestly, i cannot think of a country i've visited that i haven't tipped at all, just differently.
I tipped a taxi driver in Cardiff last year...he was well chuffed and surprised!
I tipped a taxi driver in Cardiff last year...he was well chuffed and surprised!
I don't imagine he was really suprised JJJ, that's just how our gracious nature shows itself. Nothing is expected, yet most often he would be tipped, or at least told to 'keep the change'.
quite honestly though, i think there may be a good # of waitstaff in the US who actually would prefer the status quo. why? b/c a 'decent' wage probably would not equate what they presently make in tips. however, you bet, i agree....they should get better pay, imo in line with retail staff as they are similar in being service industries and skills, no special training, no education requirements, etc. the abolition of tipping would be a great thing, no issues, no wondering, all built into the price of goods and services and a decent, set wage.
and tis not as if i dont tip. i prefer to do so when it is warranted and not just out of duty.
a sure fire way to get a tip from me is to serve me a double when i didnt order one.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
bartenders
mailman at xmas
sanitation men at xmas ....
even the guy who shows me to my seat at the ballgame gets a buck or two ...just being considerate ...
i look as tipping as a necessary evil.
you know the scene at the beginning of the flick reservoir dogs? that is exactly my sentiment on tipping as well....
you mean this scene D2D:
The table laughs. The WAITRESS comes over to the table.
She has the check, and a pot of coffee.
WAITRESS
Can I get anybody more
coffee.
JOE
No, we're gonna be hittin it.
I'll take care of the check.
She hands the bill to him.
WAITRESS
Here ya go. Please pay at the
register, if you wouldn't mind.
JOE
Sure thing.
WAITRESS
You guys have a wonderful day.
They all mutter equivalents. She exits and Joe stands up.
JOE
I'll take care of this, you guys
leave the tip.
(to Mr. White)
And when I come back, I want my
book back.
MR. WHITE
Sorry, it's my book now.
JOE
Blonde, shoot this piece of shit,
will ya?
Mr. Blonde shoots Mr. White with his finger. Mr White
acts shot. Joe exits.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Okay, everybody cough up green for
the little lady.
Everybody whips out a buck, and throws it on the table.
Everybody, that is, except Mr. White.
NICE GUY EDDIE
C'mon, throw in a buck.
MR. WHITE
Uh-uh. I don't tip.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Whaddaya mean you don't tip?
MR. WHITE
I don't believe in it.
NICE GUY EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?
MR. PINK
(laughing)
I love this kid, he's a madman,
this guy.
MR. BLONDE
Do you have any idea what these
ladies make? They make shit.
MR. WHITE
Don't give me that. She don't
make enough money, she can quit.
Everybody laughs.
NICE GUY EDDIE
I don't even know a Jew who'd have
the balls to say that. So let's
get this straight. You never ever
tip?
MR. WHITE
I don't tip because society says I
gotta. I tip when somebody
deserves a tip. When somebody
really puts forth an effort, they
deserve a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically,
that shit's for the birds. As far
as I'm concerned, they're just
doin their job.
MR. BLUE
Our girl was nice.
MR. WHITE
Our girl was okay. She didn't do
anything special.
MR. BLONDE
What's something special, take ya
in the kitchen and suck your dick?
They all laugh.
NICE GUY EDDIE
I'd go over twelve percent for
that.
MR. WRITE
Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've
been here a long fuckin time, and
she's only filled my cup three
times. When I order coffee, I
want it filled six times.
MR. BLONDE
What if she's too busy?
MR. WHITE
The words "too busy" shouldn't be
in a waitress's vocabulary.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last
thing you need is another cup of
coffee.
They all laugh.
MR. WHITE
These ladies aren't starvin to
death. They make minimum wage.
When I worked for minimum wage, I
wasn't lucky enough to have a job
that society deemed tipworthy.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Ahh, now we're getting down to it.
It's not just that he's a cheap
bastard--
MR. ORANGE
--It is that too--
NICE GUY EDDIE
--It is that too. But it's also
he couldn't get a waiter job. You
talk like a pissed off dishwasher:
"Fuck those cunts and their
fucking tips."
MR. BLONDE
So you don't care that they're
counting on your tip to live?
Mr. White rubs two of his fingers together.
MR. WHITE
Do you know what this is? It's
the world's smallest violin,
playing just for the waitresses.
MR. BLONDE
You don't have any idea what
you're talking about. These
people bust their ass. This
is a hard job.
MR. WHITE
So's working at McDonald's, but
you don't feel the need to tip
them. They're servin ya food, you
should tip em. But no, society
says tip these guys over here, but
not those guys over there. That's
bullshit.
MR. ORANGE
They work harder than the kids at
McDonald's.
MR. WHITE
Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning
fryers.
MR. BROWN
These people are taxed on the tips
they make. When you stiff 'em,
you cost them money.
MR. BLONDE
Waitressing is the number one
occupation for female non-college
graduates in this country. It's
the one jab basically any woman
can get, and make a living on.
The reason is because of tips.
MR. WHITE
Fuck all that.
They all laugh.
MR. WHITE
Hey, I'm very sorry that the
government taxes their tips.
That's fucked up. But that ain't
my fault. it would appear that
waitresses are just one of the
many groups the government fucks
in the ass on a regular basis.
You show me a paper says the
government shouldn't do that, I'll
sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll
vote for it. But what I won't do
is play ball. And this non-
college bullshit you're telling
me, I got two words for that:
"Learn to fuckin type." Cause if
you're expecting me to help out
with the rent, you're in for a big
fuckin surprise.
MR. ORANGE
He's convinced me. Give me my
dollar back.
Everybody laughs. Joe's comes back to the table.
JOE
Okay ramblers, let's get to
rambling. Wait a minute, who
didn't throw in?
MR. ORANGE
Mr. White.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Mr. White?
(to Mr. White)
Why?
MR. ORANGE
He don't tip.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't tip?
(to Mr. White)
You don't tip? Why?
MR. ORANGE
He don't believe in it.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't believe in it?
(to Mr. White)
You don't believe in it?
MR. ORANGE
Nope.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Shut up!
(to Mr. White)
Cough up the buck, ya cheap
bastard, I paid for your goddamn
breakfast.
MR. WHITE
Because you paid for the
breakfast, I'm gonna tip.
Normally I wouldn't.
JOE
Whatever. Just throw in your
dollar, and let's move.
(to Mr. Blonde)
See what I'm dealing with here.
Infants. I'm fuckin dealin with
infants.
hear my name
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
it really is genius that scene... makes me want to watch the movie again... although i find Tim Roth's hamming to be difficult to watch!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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haha...
not that writing research essays isn't fun compared to it.... :rolleyes:
i'll just remove the automatic gratuity off the bill.. its not legal.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
absolutely!
quite honestly though, i think there may be a good # of waitstaff in the US who actually would prefer the status quo. why? b/c a 'decent' wage probably would not equate what they presently make in tips. however, you bet, i agree....they should get better pay, imo in line with retail staff as they are similar in being service industries and skills, no special training, no education requirements, etc. the abolition of tipping would be a great thing, no issues, no wondering, all built into the price of goods and services and a decent, set wage.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
you just described the whole of Europe... we are such a civilised society are we not? here in the UK we even have our sales tax added into the price at all times... now you Americans might lead the way in things like gun deaths and eating, but us Euros lead the modern world when it comes to our pricing structures
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
do you have differing taxing levels on goods and services in different parts of the country? here in the US, taxes on good and services are determined at the county and state level. hell, i live in nassau, work in manhattan, and both have different tax levels. so while it may seem 'easier' to have taxes built into the prices, i DO understand why they are not....so that the TRUE cost of the goods/services are represented, and a customer can see what the tax level is, if any. some states don't have sales tax at all, many vary exactly what they do/don't tax, etc. so a national company wants to represent their prices across the board, and let the tax levels be completely transparent. i have ZERO issue with that.
in regards to tipping, whole other arguement. i have always agreed it is ridiculous, no idea how or why it truly came about into it's current form and you bet...would love to see it change. however, it is what it is right now...so i follow custom and sure, reward truly excellent, above par service. i would truly love to see change, but again in the scheme of things not really that an *important* an issue.
as to your comparisons, i couldn't care less. i feel no need to say what is better/worse, it doesn't even matter to me. i love where i live, warts and all. however, at least i have actually visited numerous countries in europe whereas you've never even stepped foot on american soil. how great it is to judge from afar.
btw - as far as i recall, tipping DOES exist in many european countries. it may not be as prevalent or 'expected' but it does still exist.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
of course!
and beyond that, it's simply not waitstaff, it's the whole tipping culture is out of hand imo. tip the girl who washes my hair in the salon, then tip the hairdresser, tip your manicurist, masseuse, doorman, valet, etc, etc....wherre does it end? who and when and where and how much do you tip? it gets ridiculous after awhile. tipping really SHOULD be for extra special, exemplary service, not an everyday, expected thing. people should all get a decent wage and it should be enough.
hey, i LOVEd working retail sales. it was work, but i so enjoyed it, the interactions, the various stores i worked for, etc. i was an excellent salesperson, visual designer, etc. however, unless you moved up into management or a full-time position (which are rare!)...no paid vacations, no health benefits, no 401Ks, etc.....and yea not great $$$. so although i so enjoyed the work...i moved on b/c i wanted/needed to make more $$$. and so it goes. obviously, the more education, skills, what have you...the more you make. beyond that, sure, some fields even with that will pay less or more depending on if you are in public service - such as education - or in private sector $$$making. low-skilled work only pays big $$$ if it is dangerous or considered rather undesirable. we all have to make choices. personally, i think waitstaff have it *made* in that they are one of the few jobs that DO get great tips, even though otherwise fit right in line with retail work and all. thus why i don't think waitstaff would ever fight for decent wages, they like the status quo.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
17.5% straight across the board... VAT its called.
some stuff isnt vatable, and companies can claim VAT back on purchases... but for customers on the street VAT is already added and its a standard 17.5%
i'm fond of these things i call 'jokes'.. you should try them sometime.
yes, see....to me that makes a big difference. and as i said, due to how it can vary so greatly state to state, why i believe our taxes are not added in the purchase price. i think americans like to truly see the prices and taxes, seperately.
i'm fond of jokes too. when they are funny, i laugh.
btw - i guess you missed my ';)' at the end of that earlier statement, thus signifying a tongue-in-cheek comment.
second btw - 17.5% ?!
no wonder it's in the prices, who wants to see THAT!
nassau's sales tax is considered one of the highest in the nation, and we're at 8.65%.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
17.5 is nothing ... our gas/petrol prices are about 4 times your price or something ridiculous.
DAMN metric system conversions
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
you only pay 2.11 a gallon? :eek:
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
oh
THAT i knew, and it is ridiculous.....and sure, another topic.
thinking back, i do remember your sales tax was a lot higher as well but i am thinking back 20 years when i lived over there...so not too fresh in the memory. and last year for wembley, wasn't paying attnetion to ANYthing so mundane.
anyhoo....grasping at the topic here .......i DID tip in the UK, just not nearly as much nor as often as in the US, just following the custom. honestly, i cannot think of a country i've visited that i haven't tipped at all, just differently.
Let's just breathe...
I am myself like you somehow
I tipped a taxi driver in Cardiff last year...he was well chuffed and surprised!
I don't imagine he was really suprised JJJ, that's just how our gracious nature shows itself. Nothing is expected, yet most often he would be tipped, or at least told to 'keep the change'.
and tis not as if i dont tip. i prefer to do so when it is warranted and not just out of duty.
a sure fire way to get a tip from me is to serve me a double when i didnt order one.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
bartenders
mailman at xmas
sanitation men at xmas ....
even the guy who shows me to my seat at the ballgame gets a buck or two ...just being considerate ...
Some of us tip, and some don't
&
It is customary to tip in some countries, but not in others
agreed but even when i'm abroad i tip i'm so used to it that it comes naturally ..:eek:
you mean this scene D2D:
She has the check, and a pot of coffee.
WAITRESS
Can I get anybody more
coffee.
JOE
No, we're gonna be hittin it.
I'll take care of the check.
She hands the bill to him.
WAITRESS
Here ya go. Please pay at the
register, if you wouldn't mind.
JOE
Sure thing.
WAITRESS
You guys have a wonderful day.
They all mutter equivalents. She exits and Joe stands up.
JOE
I'll take care of this, you guys
leave the tip.
(to Mr. White)
And when I come back, I want my
book back.
MR. WHITE
Sorry, it's my book now.
JOE
Blonde, shoot this piece of shit,
will ya?
Mr. Blonde shoots Mr. White with his finger. Mr White
acts shot. Joe exits.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Okay, everybody cough up green for
the little lady.
Everybody whips out a buck, and throws it on the table.
Everybody, that is, except Mr. White.
NICE GUY EDDIE
C'mon, throw in a buck.
MR. WHITE
Uh-uh. I don't tip.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Whaddaya mean you don't tip?
MR. WHITE
I don't believe in it.
NICE GUY EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?
MR. PINK
(laughing)
I love this kid, he's a madman,
this guy.
MR. BLONDE
Do you have any idea what these
ladies make? They make shit.
MR. WHITE
Don't give me that. She don't
make enough money, she can quit.
Everybody laughs.
NICE GUY EDDIE
I don't even know a Jew who'd have
the balls to say that. So let's
get this straight. You never ever
tip?
MR. WHITE
I don't tip because society says I
gotta. I tip when somebody
deserves a tip. When somebody
really puts forth an effort, they
deserve a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically,
that shit's for the birds. As far
as I'm concerned, they're just
doin their job.
MR. BLUE
Our girl was nice.
MR. WHITE
Our girl was okay. She didn't do
anything special.
MR. BLONDE
What's something special, take ya
in the kitchen and suck your dick?
They all laugh.
NICE GUY EDDIE
I'd go over twelve percent for
that.
MR. WRITE
Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've
been here a long fuckin time, and
she's only filled my cup three
times. When I order coffee, I
want it filled six times.
MR. BLONDE
What if she's too busy?
MR. WHITE
The words "too busy" shouldn't be
in a waitress's vocabulary.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last
thing you need is another cup of
coffee.
They all laugh.
MR. WHITE
These ladies aren't starvin to
death. They make minimum wage.
When I worked for minimum wage, I
wasn't lucky enough to have a job
that society deemed tipworthy.
NICE GUY EDDIE
Ahh, now we're getting down to it.
It's not just that he's a cheap
bastard--
MR. ORANGE
--It is that too--
NICE GUY EDDIE
--It is that too. But it's also
he couldn't get a waiter job. You
talk like a pissed off dishwasher:
"Fuck those cunts and their
fucking tips."
MR. BLONDE
So you don't care that they're
counting on your tip to live?
Mr. White rubs two of his fingers together.
MR. WHITE
Do you know what this is? It's
the world's smallest violin,
playing just for the waitresses.
MR. BLONDE
You don't have any idea what
you're talking about. These
people bust their ass. This
is a hard job.
MR. WHITE
So's working at McDonald's, but
you don't feel the need to tip
them. They're servin ya food, you
should tip em. But no, society
says tip these guys over here, but
not those guys over there. That's
bullshit.
MR. ORANGE
They work harder than the kids at
McDonald's.
MR. WHITE
Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning
fryers.
MR. BROWN
These people are taxed on the tips
they make. When you stiff 'em,
you cost them money.
MR. BLONDE
Waitressing is the number one
occupation for female non-college
graduates in this country. It's
the one jab basically any woman
can get, and make a living on.
The reason is because of tips.
MR. WHITE
Fuck all that.
They all laugh.
MR. WHITE
Hey, I'm very sorry that the
government taxes their tips.
That's fucked up. But that ain't
my fault. it would appear that
waitresses are just one of the
many groups the government fucks
in the ass on a regular basis.
You show me a paper says the
government shouldn't do that, I'll
sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll
vote for it. But what I won't do
is play ball. And this non-
college bullshit you're telling
me, I got two words for that:
"Learn to fuckin type." Cause if
you're expecting me to help out
with the rent, you're in for a big
fuckin surprise.
MR. ORANGE
He's convinced me. Give me my
dollar back.
Everybody laughs. Joe's comes back to the table.
JOE
Okay ramblers, let's get to
rambling. Wait a minute, who
didn't throw in?
MR. ORANGE
Mr. White.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Mr. White?
(to Mr. White)
Why?
MR. ORANGE
He don't tip.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't tip?
(to Mr. White)
You don't tip? Why?
MR. ORANGE
He don't believe in it.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't believe in it?
(to Mr. White)
You don't believe in it?
MR. ORANGE
Nope.
JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Shut up!
(to Mr. White)
Cough up the buck, ya cheap
bastard, I paid for your goddamn
breakfast.
MR. WHITE
Because you paid for the
breakfast, I'm gonna tip.
Normally I wouldn't.
JOE
Whatever. Just throw in your
dollar, and let's move.
(to Mr. Blonde)
See what I'm dealing with here.
Infants. I'm fuckin dealin with
infants.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
yep indeed... tis tarantino at his best. before he started believing the hype.
ooh ooh im gonna listen to the soundtrack now.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say
Finally...someone w/ some sense. Now let this thread die cause alot of it totally pisses me off. :mad:
Finally got that "One for the Thumb"!!! Got the "Six Pack". Now we're on a "Stairway to Seven"
Some words when spoken...can't be taken back.
"Seeing a brick wall straight ahead and stepping on the gas." Eddie...Pittsburgh 6/23/06