keep in mind, that we still need to earn a living, even in California. Somebody has to wait tables. Somebody has to support the family. $8/hour x 40 hours = $320. That's less than $1300 a month. A lot of people who wait tables do it because those hours work well with their family schedule/routine or because they are single parents, etc. Rent is $1300/month and up in California. So if you stop tipping, you are screwing all of us over and there will be no reason to wait tables anymore. Service will be shitty from then on.
Or, you are treating them like anyone else who doesn't get tipped that makes min. wage.
Hey, serve me well, and I will tip.
But don't expect to be tipped 'Just Cause".
Ok, late comer to this conversation. anyway here's my viewpoint.
Tipping is evil. If someone who serves me puts in a little extra effort in improving my experience, and y'know, DESERVE a tip, then they will get one. Otherwise they won't. Call me cheap if ya want, but I'm paying for the service already in the hiked up menu prices. That's at home. When I was in the states, I begrudgingly paid the 15% almost every time because it's the custom over there. But if the service was bad I didn't.
The bars is where the whole tipping culture REALLY pissed me off though. Some of you guys say you don't mind paying a couple of dollars extra f it means getting served quicker next time. That makes sense in theory, but fucking EVERYONE tips the barman so it makes no difference at all. Thank god it isn't expected over here.
And I also totally agree with the Reservoir Dogs speech. "Society says tip these guys over here, but don't tip these guys over there". I work in an off licence. I serve people booze (much cheaper than in bars might I add) like a barman does. The only difference is I don't open the bottles for them. I help customers carry stuff to their cars when they have big orders just like a waiter brings your food to you. Should I get a tip? NO! I don't expect it, and neither should barmen. FUCK OFF TIPPING!
Hey, we tipped in Bellingham even when my pasta was watery!
We're slaves to society
Hey, we tipped in Bellingham even when my pasta was watery!
We're slaves to society
Not really the server's fault the pasta was watery
Tipping just for the sake of tipping well that is no good but yeah I was a server for years so I pretty much always tip. As for the previous argument if you can afford a meal out, you can afford to tip.
As for tipping at say Tim Horton's well no hardly warranted and it seems to have gotten a bit of hand these days. Back home I worked in a very nice restaurant... almost as upscale as PEI gets and I was good at it and I do think I enhanced people's experience. I would have people ask for me and a couple that came up from Boston every summer and would only come in on nights I worked.
Oh yeah. :( but she took it off the bill so it works out
With the price of things as they are in Dublin HH, I'm suprised anyone has a beer at all, never mind tip the barman :eek:
I pretty much always tip a waiter (ess), but never a barman, it's just not the done thing here I guess.
I will not tip if I feel I've been ripped off, or if the service has been poor, otherwise I would usually leave something.
when i'm in the states next year i fully intend not to tip. I dont care that the service might be shitty next time i'm in there as i wont be in the same place twice. if staff 'feel hurt' that they only got 15% then wait till they get fuck all from me... then they'll know what real hurt is.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
when i'm in the states next year i fully intend not to tip. I dont care that the service might be shitty next time i'm in there as i wont be in the same place twice. if staff 'feel hurt' that they only got 15% then wait till they get fuck all from me... then they'll know what real hurt is.
when i'm in the states next year i fully intend not to tip. I dont care that the service might be shitty next time i'm in there as i wont be in the same place twice. if staff 'feel hurt' that they only got 15% then wait till they get fuck all from me... then they'll know what real hurt is.
A rebel without a cause
My drinking team has a hockey problem
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
the cause is to highlight a completely flawed and unfair system.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
when i'm in the states next year i fully intend not to tip. I dont care that the service might be shitty next time i'm in there as i wont be in the same place twice. if staff 'feel hurt' that they only got 15% then wait till they get fuck all from me... then they'll know what real hurt is.
When I get a 15% tip, my feelings are actually hurt. I wonder what I did wrong. Last night, I had a table give me $25 on $155. And it affected the rest of my night. I felt terrible. What could I have done to have given them a better time? But then I remembered it's Sunday and only weirdos go out to eat on Sunday...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
Foreigners are exempt from hurting my feelings. I still give 5 star service, but expect nothing as far as a tip... I realize they are ignorant.
you should always give 5 star service. its your job. as for the ignorant part, quite funny considering i could probably give 98% of your tip heavy american customers a map of just Scotland and ask them to point to Scotland and they still wouldnt have a clue... thats proper ignorance
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
it sorta presumes i'm a regular customer who doesnt tip... i've just said i'll only be at each food place once... or do all the places send photos of bad tippers to each other
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
you should always give 5 star service. its your job. as for the ignorant part, quite funny considering i could probably give 98% of your tip heavy american customers a map of just Scotland and ask them to point to Scotland and they still wouldnt have a clue... thats proper ignorance
very true! Most of my tip-heavy customers are dreadlocked hippies that grow and sell marijuana and they eat, drink and spend very well... all cash, of course.
Here in the Sierra Nevadas, we grow the best pot, so we also smoke the best (myself not included) and therefore have no clue how to read a map.
By not tipping in the states, you're not proving anything. I've seen servers actually walk out of the restaurant with 15-20 dollars less than what they had when they walked in because they had a streak of horrible tippers.
dunkman, do not eat anything that is frozen and creamy when coming here for vacation.
yeti sperm? i'll pass thanks.
my father-in-law didnt tip on his last holiday in one place and the owner went mental at him.. shouting and everything... it was one of those $10 chinese buffet places.. self service.
why would he tip?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
very true! Most of my tip-heavy customers are dreadlocked hippies that grow and sell marijuana and they eat, drink and spend very well... all cash, of course.
Here in the Sierra Nevadas, we grow the best pot, so we also smoke the best (myself not included) and therefore have no clue how to read a map.
easy does it on your claim to the bestest weed grown.
the pacific northwest might just have some super-duper intergalactic
purifier type smoke that might just make all else seem to be ditch weed, yes/no?
By not tipping in the states, you're not proving anything. I've seen servers actually walk out of the restaurant with 15-20 dollars less than what they had when they walked in because they had a streak of horrible tippers.
honestly, i'll live with the guilt of it.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
when i'm in the states next year i fully intend not to tip. I dont care that the service might be shitty next time i'm in there as i wont be in the same place twice. if staff 'feel hurt' that they only got 15% then wait till they get fuck all from me... then they'll know what real hurt is.
I used to be a server, and whenever I got foreigners like dunkman:p.. who I assumed might not be accustomed to tip... I would sometimes just add on 18% by writing it on the bill with my pen (even though it was against my restaurant's policy). I would only do this if they racked up a bill above $250 and it was a good portion of my nightly sales. If I got caught I could have been fired for doing that... but I wasn't about to let someone not tip me.:D It was mainly for people from Japan who didn't really speak english.. because I've been over there and know that they don't tip.
So be on the lookout when you come to the states dunkman.. they can sneak that tip in on you.;)
Whoa, chill bro... you know you can't raise your voice like that when the lion's here.
my father-in-law didnt tip on his last holiday in one place and the owner went mental at him.. shouting and everything... it was one of those $10 chinese buffet places.. self service.
why would he tip?
yeti sperm, good one.
that is funny.
at a self serve chinese buffet place i will (not every time) leave a couple extra bucks either on the table or at the register.
reason being is this.
i just ate like a hog, the food was great, and it only cost me 10 bucks.
hence the common courtesy i try to spread.
it is not required but i feel it is a good thing to do for myself and the restaurant just cause i'm a good fuckin guy.
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Hey, serve me well, and I will tip.
But don't expect to be tipped 'Just Cause".
I think this is the argument that we're making.
Hey, we tipped in Bellingham even when my pasta was watery!
We're slaves to society
And deserved a tip
Not really the server's fault the pasta was watery
Tipping just for the sake of tipping well that is no good but yeah I was a server for years so I pretty much always tip. As for the previous argument if you can afford a meal out, you can afford to tip.
As for tipping at say Tim Horton's well no hardly warranted and it seems to have gotten a bit of hand these days. Back home I worked in a very nice restaurant... almost as upscale as PEI gets
With the price of things as they are in Dublin HH, I'm suprised anyone has a beer at all, never mind tip the barman :eek:
I pretty much always tip a waiter (ess), but never a barman, it's just not the done thing here I guess.
I will not tip if I feel I've been ripped off, or if the service has been poor, otherwise I would usually leave something.
Nor should you.
Congratulations...
A rebel without a cause
The ONLY thing better than a glass of beer is tea with Miss McGill
A protuberance of flesh above the waistband of a tight pair of trousers
the cause is to highlight a completely flawed and unfair system.
Who's been saying that?
Foreigners are exempt from hurting my feelings. I still give 5 star service, but expect nothing as far as a tip... I realize they are ignorant.
mary crazy
whatever you do
do not pee in dunk's coffee when serving him, ok
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
I'll just take a shit in his ice cream.
you should always give 5 star service. its your job.
fairly easy to notice that as i only eat vanilla
it sorta presumes i'm a regular customer who doesnt tip... i've just said i'll only be at each food place once... or do all the places send photos of bad tippers to each other
dunkman, do not eat anything that is frozen and creamy when coming here for vacation.
for some strange reason it might taste like crap
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
very true! Most of my tip-heavy customers are dreadlocked hippies that grow and sell marijuana and they eat, drink and spend very well... all cash, of course.
Here in the Sierra Nevadas, we grow the best pot, so we also smoke the best (myself not included) and therefore have no clue how to read a map.
yeti sperm? i'll pass thanks.
my father-in-law didnt tip on his last holiday in one place and the owner went mental at him.. shouting and everything... it was one of those $10 chinese buffet places.. self service.
why would he tip?
easy does it on your claim to the bestest weed grown.
the pacific northwest might just have some super-duper intergalactic
purifier type smoke that might just make all else seem to be ditch weed, yes/no?
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
honestly, i'll live with the guilt of it.
Pfft. He needs to worry about Australia.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=307184
I used to be a server, and whenever I got foreigners like dunkman:p.. who I assumed might not be accustomed to tip... I would sometimes just add on 18% by writing it on the bill with my pen (even though it was against my restaurant's policy). I would only do this if they racked up a bill above $250 and it was a good portion of my nightly sales. If I got caught I could have been fired for doing that... but I wasn't about to let someone not tip me.:D It was mainly for people from Japan who didn't really speak english.. because I've been over there and know that they don't tip.
So be on the lookout when you come to the states dunkman.. they can sneak that tip in on you.;)
yeti sperm, good one.
that is funny.
at a self serve chinese buffet place i will (not every time) leave a couple extra bucks either on the table or at the register.
reason being is this.
i just ate like a hog, the food was great, and it only cost me 10 bucks.
hence the common courtesy i try to spread.
it is not required but i feel it is a good thing to do for myself and the restaurant just cause i'm a good fuckin guy.
to each their own.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
They refill my drinks and take away the dirty plates, so I always leave 2-3 bucks.
no, the cause is that you're tighter than a ducks arse