1. Do I need to tip the bus driver on my way from Seattle to Vancouver airport?
2. Do I need to tip the guy at customs, or whatever it is that happens when I cross the border?
3. Do I need to tip the coffee cart guy at VAN airport?
I think the general rule appears to be: when in doubt... tip! If you're not sure and the person is still hanging around looking like they're waiting for something... tip! That seems to be how it goes over there :rolleyes:
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well he was just an ass... I've worked in pubs before and had American customers try to do that and I just find it funny and tell them it's not ready yet. Fuck I had a South African manager in an Irish pub who didn't KNOW how to pull a pint of guinness and pulled it like lager... serving it to Irish customers :eek: that was funny! Very few complaints though... they'd look at the pint and then look at me like 'what the fuck' so I'd pull them another one and just took him aside and had to explain.
I've always been quite amused at the way Guinness is pulled.
I think the general rule appears to be: when in doubt... tip! If you're not sure and the person is still hanging around looking like they're waiting for something... tip! That seems to be how it goes over there :rolleyes:
Nope lol. They are just waiting around to push you out so more customers can be seated lol.
Dunk my bank doesn't hold more on my debit card so maybe it depends on the bank or something. Just last week I noticed the available funds in my bank account was $16 less than the total amount in the account. I couldn't remember what the $16 was for so I checked my receipts and figured out it was for a dinner but the total of the receipt was $21 not $16. $16 was for dinner and $5 for the tip. They were only holding $16 and did not include the tip. Of course later that day they deducted the $21. I guess it depends on the bank.
"...believe in lies...to get by...it's divine...whoa...oh, you know what its like..."
I keep making these posts about tipping and how I'm totally opposed to this need to pay whatever above the listed price, but let's face it, I don't understand any of this shit, so when I'm there in 2 weeks time I'm just gonna let my local hosts take care of this shit while I twiddle my thumbs. Either that, Or I'll hand over a bank note that's wayyyyy more than what I really ought to be paying cos I'm used to a sane bank note system where each denomination has a different colour. That all your notes are green is another absurd thing I'll need to laugh at another day
The problem will be when I'm by myself. I'll ask whoever's 'serving' me anyway, but just in case someone tries to rort me...
My actual questions:
1. Do I need to tip the bus driver on my way from Seattle to Vancouver airport?
2. Do I need to tip the guy at customs, or whatever it is that happens when I cross the border?
3. Do I need to tip the coffee cart guy at VAN airport?
Bills are actually not all green now but they still look similar except for the BIG ass 100, 50, 20, 10 or 5 on them lol. You won't mix them up.
1. Yes definately
2. No, you don't tip customs in US and I don't think you tip them in Canada.
3. No, you don't have to but you can if you want.
"...believe in lies...to get by...it's divine...whoa...oh, you know what its like..."
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
I'm trying to imagine the face on a bus driver over here if you tried to tip him ... he'd look at you (a) like you had just disembarked from a spaceship and (b) like you might be trying to pull a fast one
So are we strangers now? Like rock and roll and the radio?
you've personally witnessed EVERY american who travels to scotland? shit, you've got a lot of free time on your hands.You HEAR about the ones that don't because they're the ones who are going to get noticed. No one's going to repeat a story or take notice when someone does something that is the NORM. Dude, I haven't been to scotland, but I've been to other countries where you don't tip, and I haven't tipped. Neither has anyone I've been with. And last I looked at my passport, it was american.
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WITH tips i didnt make $10 an hour waiting tables, nor did anyone i work with. i dont table at coffee or bagel shops either. they dont give you service, they give you a product. that tip is optional (and stupidly pointless in my estimation).
the supermarket is selling a product..the restaurant is providing a service (that's why it's called the service industry :rolleyes: )
well he was just an ass... I've worked in pubs before and had American customers try to do that and I just find it funny and tell them it's not ready yet. Fuck I had a South African manager in an Irish pub who didn't KNOW how to pull a pint of guinness and pulled it like lager... serving it to Irish customers :eek: that was funny! Very few complaints though... they'd look at the pint and then look at me like 'what the fuck' so I'd pull them another one and just took him aside and had to explain.
LOL.. I had to 'teach' (as a customer) that in some bars too..
I'm trying to imagine the face on a bus driver over here if you tried to tip him ... he'd look at you (a) like you had just disembarked from a spaceship and (b) like you might be trying to pull a fast one
I think she's pulling our leg about tipping the bus driver.. I hope anyway.. that would NEVER even cross my mind to..
I'm trying to imagine the face on a bus driver over here if you tried to tip him ... he'd look at you (a) like you had just disembarked from a spaceship and (b) like you might be trying to pull a fast one
lol...I was thinking the same...the bus driver would say to me "que mierda te pasa?" (what the kcuf is wrong with you?)
That is very true :cool: capitalism does NOT exist in a major city like London... the owners are very happy to make sure the customer is happy and just cover the cost and some extra little pocket money for themselves... London's a very happy place like that. Such genuine people, no care for profit! :rolleyes:
please darling, tell me. where did i say that? im dying to know. really. you totally just schooled me there, i've been so owned by your incomparable wit and intelligence. you totally devestated me by rebutting words i don't even remember saying! please helen, have mercy on my poor intellect, and show me where i said such a thing so that i may wallow in my humiliation at your hands even more.
it amazes me how even when we agree you feel the need to turn it into some sort of sarcastic argument. i make a point about how our system may be illogical, but it is a result of american capitalist greed. you then get all whiny and say "hey, we're greedy too!" and then repeat that the american system is absurd. what the fuck is your point?
please darling, tell me. where did i say that? im dying to know. really. you totally just schooled me there, i've been so owned by your incomparable wit and intelligence. you totally devestated me by rebutting words i don't even remember saying! please helen, have mercy on my poor intellect, and show me where i said such a thing so that i may wallow in my humiliation at your hands even more.
it amazes me how even when we agree you feel the need to turn it into some sort of sarcastic argument. i make a point about how our system may be illogical, but it is a result of american capitalist greed. you then get all whiny and say "hey, we're greedy too!" and then repeat that the american system is absurd. what the fuck is your point?
If you knew anything about me you'd know I believe capitalistic greed is a problem everywhere... not just the states. Your point was that the American system is BECAUSE of the American greed... but I'm saying restaurant owners are just as greedy in London and everywhere else.
That has nothing to do with why I think the system is crap... I simply think the system makes no sense.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
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What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
If you knew anything about me you'd know I believe capitalistic greed is a problem everywhere... not just the states. Your point was that the American system is BECAUSE of the American greed... but I'm saying restaurant owners are just as greedy in London and everywhere else.
That has nothing to do with why I think the system is crap... I simply think the system makes no sense.
welcome back darling!
my point was that american greed is in a league of its own. england has it, but they also have a decent amount of respect for labor rights, minimum wage, human rights, etc. sure, greed may be a problem. but it is not worshiped and protected like it is in the US. our labor laws are a joke compared to even the worst in europe. maybe joe shopkeeper in london as an individual is as greedy as joe shopkeeper in america. but the SYSTEMS are vastly different. england has greater checks on it than the US, which will never do anything to meddle with profits, EVER. there is no comparison. and i've studied the laws of both. the culture in america is peerless in its single-minded devotion to profit to the exclusion of all else, britain at least considers a few things like rights and whatnot. shit, they joined the EU. america will never do anything that would bind them. even nafta carves out exclusions that ensure american workers will never be able to get rights equal to those of canadian workers. there's no comparison. why do you think america is so reviled around the world? cos we're greedy, we don't care who gets hurt as we pursue our greed, and we tell the rest of you to go fuck yourselves if you dare question what we do or why. yeah, greed is a universal problem, but we've perfected it and admire it. britian at least seems to be trying to think of ways to check it. my statement is true. the american system is the way it is becos of our devotion to totally unrestrained capitalism. england has greed too. but they are willing to put more restraints on capitalism than we. that is a fact. period.
Hinny... I don't think the poster was serious..... Don't worry about it.. hand him your mullet!
he's not going to the south though... so the mullet mightn't be appreciated
The Astoria??? Orgazmic!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
american workers will never be able to get rights equal to those of canadian workers. .
American workers rights are shit. That is why I chose never to work in the US again (unless transferred to US by European firm, with European benefits, etc). America is the greediest of all. Greed is everywhere but the americans are the masters of it. In western europe, workers have fought long and hard for their rights (and the UK is one of the 'worst' countries I worked in regarding workers rights/benefits!). Americans should wake up. This whole tipping issue, where your tip is your 'salary' is just a example of how bad they are treated. I won't even go into illness, holidays, etc.
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American workers rights are shit. That is why I chose never to work in the US again (unless transferred to US by European firm, with European benefits, etc). America is the greediest of all. Greed is everywhere but the americans are the masters of it. In western europe, workers have fought long and hard for their rights (and the UK is one of the 'worst' countries I worked in regarding workers rights/benefits!). Americans should wake up. This whole tipping issue, where your tip is your 'salary' is just a example of how bad they are treated. I won't even go into illness, holidays, etc.
which was precisely my point. maybe this is what sounded so fishy to me... you made it sound like you working in america was a temporary thing, so i wondered if you were really here long enough to get a sense of how the economy works here. sounds like you just managed to escape, so kudos!
i notice helen got REAL quiet all of a sudden. plenty of fight when she thinks she can bs her way, then acting like it never happened when someone points out she's wrong.
which was precisely my point. maybe this is what sounded so fishy to me... you made it sound like you working in america was a temporary thing, so i wondered if you were really here long enough to get a sense of how the economy works here. sounds like you just managed to escape, so kudos!
i notice helen got REAL quiet all of a sudden. plenty of fight when she thinks she can bs her way, then acting like it never happened when someone points out she's wrong.
Nope.. as much as I loved California my life there and my lovely friends, etc., having already had worked in Europe before that, I saw what the difference was. Didn't take me long to make up my mind.
Nope.. as much as I loved California my life there and my lovely friends, etc., having already had worked in Europe before that, I saw what the difference was. Didn't take me long to make up my mind.
Helen has probably gone home now.
yeah, the differences are pretty stark. if you're a protected class and they mistreat you, you can sue your way into retirement, but other than that they can pretty much do whatever they damn well please to you.
she managed to respond to people posting after me. it's a pattern with her. but im not trying to draw you into this, just thinking out loud and mentally rolling my eyes at how unsurprised i am by it. didnt wanna make 2 posts for it.
i've never tipped a bus driver in my life. nor do i know anyone who has.
ignorant cheapskate bastard
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
they get paid real wages and get benefits too totally different from waiters.
here's a general rule of tipping in america. we basically tip out of guilt for our fat, lazy asses. we tip people for doing for us things we could do ourselves but would rather not becos it would demand effort. it is only when we are in personal contact with someone too. i'll illustrate contrasts for everyone.
food service:
fast food- it's an assembly line, they have no personal contact with us, we give them money, they hand over food. no need to tip.
restaurant- we are so fucking fat and lazy we not only can't fix our own food, we want you to carry it to us. if we could, we'd have you feed it to us. and we knw you know we are gluttonous pieces of shit, so here's a few dollars for the indignity of having to put up with our bullshit for an hour of your day.
transportation:
public bus/subway- they're people movers, the guy behind the bulletproof window hands you a ticket and the bus driver has no desire to speak to you. get on the bus, don't cause a problem, and get the fuck off. no relationship, no tip.
taxi- we know, it's unamerican not to have our own car and drive our own fat asses around. we know we're only going 3 blocks away but it's tough hauling this lard that far. so let us tumble into your car and haul us to it. if there were a human being capable of pulling a rickshaw with our weight in it, we'd do that too. so here's a few dollars for the indignity of having to haul our fat fucking asses around in close quarters and converse with us.
combo of greed and independence. americans aren't supposed to need anything from anyone. so any time we're asking for personal service or attention, we tip out of guilt for not being able to do that for ourselves like john wayne would have.
taxi- we know, it's unamerican not to have our own car and drive our own fat asses around. we know we're only going 3 blocks away but it's tough hauling this lard that far. so let us tumble into your car and haul us to it. if there were a human being capable of pulling a rickshaw with our weight in it, we'd do that too. so here's a few dollars for the indignity of having to haul our fat fucking asses around in close quarters and converse with us.
this isn't right. people really only take cabs in major cities, and in major cities it's pretty damn common not to have your own car. that's off, it's not the reason behind tipping cab drivers. it's more like because it's a one-on-one thing, and it's more of a luxury/higher level of service than taking the bus.
this isn't right. people really only take cabs in major cities, and in major cities it's pretty damn common not to have your own car. that's off, it's not the reason behind tipping cab drivers. it's more like because it's a one-on-one thing, and it's more of a luxury/higher level of service than taking the bus.
i know, i was trying to inject a bit of humor into it. but you nailed the point i was essentially trying to make... the tip comes into play whenever there is one-on-one luxury essentially. you tip a taxi, not a bus driver. a waiter, not a fast food worker.
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Nope lol. They are just waiting around to push you out so more customers can be seated lol.
Dunk my bank doesn't hold more on my debit card so maybe it depends on the bank or something. Just last week I noticed the available funds in my bank account was $16 less than the total amount in the account. I couldn't remember what the $16 was for so I checked my receipts and figured out it was for a dinner but the total of the receipt was $21 not $16. $16 was for dinner and $5 for the tip. They were only holding $16 and did not include the tip. Of course later that day they deducted the $21. I guess it depends on the bank.
Bills are actually not all green now but they still look similar except for the BIG ass 100, 50, 20, 10 or 5 on them lol. You won't mix them up.
1. Yes definately
2. No, you don't tip customs in US and I don't think you tip them in Canada.
3. No, you don't have to but you can if you want.
:eek: Really? Wow!
Definitely not... could be seen as a bribe :eek:
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Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
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I'm trying to imagine the face on a bus driver over here if you tried to tip him
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LOL.. I had to 'teach' (as a customer) that in some bars too..
I think she's pulling our leg about tipping the bus driver.. I hope anyway.. that would NEVER even cross my mind to..
please darling, tell me. where did i say that? im dying to know. really. you totally just schooled me there, i've been so owned by your incomparable wit and intelligence. you totally devestated me by rebutting words i don't even remember saying! please helen, have mercy on my poor intellect, and show me where i said such a thing so that i may wallow in my humiliation at your hands even more.
it amazes me how even when we agree you feel the need to turn it into some sort of sarcastic argument. i make a point about how our system may be illogical, but it is a result of american capitalist greed. you then get all whiny and say "hey, we're greedy too!" and then repeat that the american system is absurd. what the fuck is your point?
That has nothing to do with why I think the system is crap... I simply think the system makes no sense.
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Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
my point was that american greed is in a league of its own. england has it, but they also have a decent amount of respect for labor rights, minimum wage, human rights, etc. sure, greed may be a problem. but it is not worshiped and protected like it is in the US. our labor laws are a joke compared to even the worst in europe. maybe joe shopkeeper in london as an individual is as greedy as joe shopkeeper in america. but the SYSTEMS are vastly different. england has greater checks on it than the US, which will never do anything to meddle with profits, EVER. there is no comparison. and i've studied the laws of both. the culture in america is peerless in its single-minded devotion to profit to the exclusion of all else, britain at least considers a few things like rights and whatnot. shit, they joined the EU. america will never do anything that would bind them. even nafta carves out exclusions that ensure american workers will never be able to get rights equal to those of canadian workers. there's no comparison. why do you think america is so reviled around the world? cos we're greedy, we don't care who gets hurt as we pursue our greed, and we tell the rest of you to go fuck yourselves if you dare question what we do or why. yeah, greed is a universal problem, but we've perfected it and admire it. britian at least seems to be trying to think of ways to check it. my statement is true. the american system is the way it is becos of our devotion to totally unrestrained capitalism. england has greed too. but they are willing to put more restraints on capitalism than we. that is a fact. period.
i've never tipped a bus driver in my life. nor do i know anyone who has.
Hinny... I don't think the poster was serious..... Don't worry about it.. hand him your mullet!
Verona??? it's all surmountable
Dublin 23.08.06 "The beauty of Ireland, right there!"
Wembley? We all believe!
Copenhagen?? your light made us stars
Chicago 07? And love
What a different life
Had I not found this love with you
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Travel-g191-s606/United-States:Tipping.And.Etiquette.html
It'll be the QuickCoach between SEA and VAN airport.
which was precisely my point. maybe this is what sounded so fishy to me... you made it sound like you working in america was a temporary thing, so i wondered if you were really here long enough to get a sense of how the economy works here. sounds like you just managed to escape, so kudos!
i notice helen got REAL quiet all of a sudden. plenty of fight when she thinks she can bs her way, then acting like it never happened when someone points out she's wrong.
Nope.. as much as I loved California my life there and my lovely friends, etc., having already had worked in Europe before that, I saw what the difference was. Didn't take me long to make up my mind.
Helen has probably gone home now.
yeah, the differences are pretty stark. if you're a protected class and they mistreat you, you can sue your way into retirement, but other than that they can pretty much do whatever they damn well please to you.
she managed to respond to people posting after me. it's a pattern with her. but im not trying to draw you into this, just thinking out loud and mentally rolling my eyes at how unsurprised i am by it. didnt wanna make 2 posts for it.
ignorant cheapskate bastard
they get paid real wages and get benefits too
here's a general rule of tipping in america. we basically tip out of guilt for our fat, lazy asses. we tip people for doing for us things we could do ourselves but would rather not becos it would demand effort. it is only when we are in personal contact with someone too. i'll illustrate contrasts for everyone.
food service:
fast food- it's an assembly line, they have no personal contact with us, we give them money, they hand over food. no need to tip.
restaurant- we are so fucking fat and lazy we not only can't fix our own food, we want you to carry it to us. if we could, we'd have you feed it to us. and we knw you know we are gluttonous pieces of shit, so here's a few dollars for the indignity of having to put up with our bullshit for an hour of your day.
transportation:
public bus/subway- they're people movers, the guy behind the bulletproof window hands you a ticket and the bus driver has no desire to speak to you. get on the bus, don't cause a problem, and get the fuck off. no relationship, no tip.
taxi- we know, it's unamerican not to have our own car and drive our own fat asses around. we know we're only going 3 blocks away but it's tough hauling this lard that far. so let us tumble into your car and haul us to it. if there were a human being capable of pulling a rickshaw with our weight in it, we'd do that too. so here's a few dollars for the indignity of having to haul our fat fucking asses around in close quarters and converse with us.
combo of greed and independence. americans aren't supposed to need anything from anyone. so any time we're asking for personal service or attention, we tip out of guilt for not being able to do that for ourselves like john wayne would have.
this isn't right. people really only take cabs in major cities, and in major cities it's pretty damn common not to have your own car. that's off, it's not the reason behind tipping cab drivers. it's more like because it's a one-on-one thing, and it's more of a luxury/higher level of service than taking the bus.
they driver isn't getting that money though.
I think the given price is sort of like, paying the for the CAR RIDE, while the tip is like, covering the fact that a person had to give it to you.
i know, i was trying to inject a bit of humor into it. but you nailed the point i was essentially trying to make... the tip comes into play whenever there is one-on-one luxury essentially. you tip a taxi, not a bus driver. a waiter, not a fast food worker.