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  • Pearl Juli
    Pearl Juli Posts: 1,213
    karma defect wrote:
    Hahahahaha. So it is not exactly the Champions league hey. Not that the Champions league is the actual league of champions.:D


    :confused: huh?

    :D lol. Wow...that right there sounds more confusing than the Libertadores deal :p hahaha :D


    mmmm....how many international club championships are in Europe? Would the UEFA be the equivalent of the Copa Libertadores or the Copa Sudamericana? (btw, the winners of the Copa Libertadores and the Copa Sudamericana DO play a final match to determine the winner of the "Recopa")

    Oh no...I think this gets even more confusing :o
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    Pearl_Juli wrote:
    :confused: huh?

    :D lol. Wow...that right there sounds more confusing than the Libertadores deal :p hahaha :D


    mmmm....how many international club championships are in Europe? Would the UEFA be the equivalent of the Copa Libertadores or the Copa Sudamericana? (btw, the winners of the Copa Libertadores and the Copa Sudamericana DO play a final match to determine the winner of the "Recopa")

    Oh no...I think this gets even more confusing :o


    I meant that not only the champions play champions league. Depending one how high a country is listed on the UEFA table they can enter 4,3,2 or only just the champion. If you are really low you have to play qualifying matches even as the champion. for instance England have two clubs that qualify directly (the numbers 1 and 2 of last season) and two clubs that have to play qualifying matches (the numbers 3 and 4)

    Again the position on the UEFA table determines how many clubs of a country can play UEFA cup.
    Holland has PSV (directly) and Ajax (qualifying) playing champions league and Feyenoord, SC Heerenveen, AZ and FC Groningen playing UEFA cup.

    The match between the winners is at the start of the new season and isn't that important. Kind of like the world cup for club teams, it is nice if you win, but if you lose….. oh well.
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  • Pearl Juli
    Pearl Juli Posts: 1,213
    karma defect wrote:
    I meant that not only the champions play champions league. Depending one how high a country is listed on the UEFA table they can enter 4,3,2 or only just the champion. If you are really low you have to play qualifying matches even as the champion. for instance England have two clubs that qualify directly (the numbers 1 and 2 of last season) and two clubs that have to play qualifying matches (the numbers 3 and 4)

    Again the position on the UEFA table determines how many clubs of a country can play UEFA cup.
    Holland has PSV (directly) and Ajax (qualifying) playing champions league and Feyenoord, SC Heerenveen, AZ and FC Groningen playing UEFA cup.

    The match between the winners is at the start of the new season and isn't that important. Kind of like the world cup for club teams, it is nice if you win, but if you lose….. oh well.

    That's pretty much how the Copa Sudamericana works as well. I suppose that would be the equivalent of the UEFA then.

    I still would like to solve the "Libertadores" mystery :D hahaha.
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    Pearl_Juli wrote:
    That's pretty much how the Copa Sudamericana works as well. I suppose that would be the equivalent of the UEFA then.

    I still would like to solve the "Libertadores" mystery :D hahaha.


    BRHF9 is active, he is from Brazil maybe he can help.
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    How about it BRHF9 do you have the answer to this mystery?
    « One man's glory is another man's hell.
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  • brhf9
    brhf9 Posts: 1,475
    karma defect wrote:
    BRHF9 is active, he is from Brazil maybe he can help.

    hola chica, i'm here to help you...

    as long as i know, this year the teams from ARGHentina were:

    Newell's Old Boys - Torneio Apertura 2004/2005
    Vélez Sarsfield - Torneio Clausura 2004/2005
    Estudiantes de La Plata - Most points in the 2004/2005 season
    Rosario Central - 2nd best " "
    River Plate - 3rd best " "

    so for next year you can expect Boca to join the fun again... ;)

    edit: i was forgetting, 2 back-to-back Brazil-only finals. you guys need to step-up again...
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    brhf9 wrote:
    hola chica, i'm here to help you...

    as long as i know, this year the teams from ARGHentina were:

    Newell's Old Boys - Torneio Apertura 2004/2005
    Vélez Sarsfield - Torneio Clausura 2004/2005
    Estudiantes de La Plata - Most points in the 2004/2005 season
    Rosario Central - 2nd best " "
    River Plate - 3rd best " "

    so for next year you can expect Boca to join the fun again... ;)

    edit: i was forgetting, 2 back-to-back Brazil-only finals. you guys need to step-up again...

    So there is a gap of one year, is that right?
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    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
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  • Pearl Juli
    Pearl Juli Posts: 1,213
    brhf9 wrote:
    hola chica, i'm here to help you...

    as long as i know, this year the teams from ARGHentina were:

    Newell's Old Boys - Torneio Apertura 2004/2005
    Vélez Sarsfield - Torneio Clausura 2004/2005
    Estudiantes de La Plata - Most points in the 2004/2005 season
    Rosario Central - 2nd best " "
    River Plate - 3rd best " "

    so for next year you can expect Boca to join the fun again... ;)

    edit: i was forgetting, 2 back-to-back Brazil-only finals. you guys need to step-up again...

    THANK YOU! :D now it all makes sense. So it's determined by the top teams from the previous year, right? Thanks for solving "the mystery" lol.

    Yeah, that's true. But that's because Boca didn't play... ;) we'll get 'em next yeat :D haha. Either way, I'd rather see a Brazilian team win, than RIVER PLATE! :p


    And to Karma: apparently, and according to a CONMEBOL article, there IS a match between the Apertura and Clausura winners to decide who is the champion of the whole season. (that's news to me, I never heard about it before :eek: )
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  • brhf9
    brhf9 Posts: 1,475
    karma defect wrote:
    So there is a gap of one year, is that right?

    i don't know when the 'clausura' tournament ends, but i believe they have a little gap. 6 months/a year as you said.

    but she doesn't need to wory. unlike our national squad, our teams are rulling the continen, pretty easily...t
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    brhf9 wrote:
    i don't know when the 'clausura' tournament ends, but i believe they have a little gap. 6 months/a year as you said.

    but she doesn't need to wory. unlike our national squad, our teams are rulling the continen, pretty easily...t


    Nono I meant a gap between one year of ending high in the league and playing Copa. If the teams that did well in'04/'05 play now that means they play in '06/'07, what happend to the year in between?
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    You’re on the outside, never bound by such a spell.
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  • brhf9
    brhf9 Posts: 1,475
    Pearl_Juli wrote:
    THANK YOU! :D now it all makes sense. So it's determined by the top teams from the previous year, right? Thanks for solving "the mystery" lol.

    Yeah, that's true. But that's because Boca didn't play... ;) we'll get 'em next yeat :D haha. Either way, I'd rather see a Brazilian team win, than RIVER PLATE! :p


    And to Karma: apparently, and according to a CONMEBOL article, there IS a match between the Apertura and Clausura winners to decide who is the champion of the whole season. (that's news to me, I never heard about it before :eek: )

    no problema. mi casa, su casa...

    but can i get a kiss with this 'thank you'? just kiding...

    anyway, what is Boca's first team this season?

    any new player we should pay more atention?
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    Pearl_Juli wrote:
    THANK YOU! :D now it all makes sense. So it's determined by the top teams from the previous year, right? Thanks for solving "the mystery" lol.

    Yeah, that's true. But that's because Boca didn't play... ;) we'll get 'em next yeat :D haha. Either way, I'd rather see a Brazilian team win, than RIVER PLATE! :p


    And to Karma: apparently, and according to a CONMEBOL article, there IS a match between the Apertura and Clausura winners to decide who is the champion of the whole season. (that's news to me, I never heard about it before :eek: )

    OK that does make more sence. Thanks.
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    Together in the darkness, alone in the light.
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  • brhf9
    brhf9 Posts: 1,475
    karma defect wrote:
    Nono I meant a gap between one year of ending high in the league and playing Copa. If the teams that did well in'04/'05 play now that means they play in '06/'07, what happend to the year in between?

    libertadores is played in only one year, at the lenght of 6 months. the finals are on the next 2 weeks, and after that only at 2007.

    i believe Argentina runs their national championships just like Europe. starting on the 2nd semester of one year and ending that on the late 1st semester.
    in Brazil all the tournaments starts and ends on the same year.
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  • karma defect
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    brhf9 wrote:
    libertadores is played in only one year, at the lenght of 6 months. the finals are on the next 2 weeks, and after that only at 2007.

    i believe Argentina runs their national championships just like Europe. starting on the 2nd semester of one year and ending that on the late 1st semester.
    in Brazil all the tournaments starts and ends on the same year.

    Aha, that clears things up.:D
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  • Pearl Juli
    Pearl Juli Posts: 1,213
    brhf9 wrote:
    anyway, what is Boca's first team this season?

    Today was Boca's first game. We won 3-0 against Banfield. The team played great today. Next game is against Rosario Central.
    brhf9 wrote:
    any new player we should pay more atention?

    Maybe Guillermo Marino. He transfered from Newells I believe, and he's here to replace Federico Insua, a midfielder, who was transfered to a German club. He has potential.

    And just like last season, Rodrigo Palacio. He's a great playmaker and scores a lot of goals. I would say he's our best player.

    We don't have many new players, just the goalkeeper Aldo Bobadilla in for Abbondanzieri, Marino in for Insua, and a guy who used to play for Banfield, I don't remember his name, but he couldn't play today because of an article outlined in his contract about playing against Banfield. Apparently Banfield owns 50% of his pass, or something like that.

    And as always, the old legends Palermo and "Guillermo" lol :D the dynamic duo.


    Also, we're looking for a new coach, since Basile is going to leave Boca after the Recopa in September to become the National Team's coach.
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  • brhf9
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    Pearl_Juli wrote:

    And as always, the old legends Palermo and "Guillermo" lol :D the dynamic duo.

    schelotto? is he still playing?

    anyway, good luck!!!
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  • Pearl Juli
    Pearl Juli Posts: 1,213
    brhf9 wrote:
    schelotto? is he still playing?

    Yep. He'll probably retire in Boca. And he's made his place as a legend in the club. In the last minutes of a game, or whenever things get sticky, la doce and every Boca fan start chanting his name and asking the coach to let him in, lol. He always solves the "problem."

    brhf9 wrote:
    anyway, good luck!!!

    Thanks!!! :D
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  • amentvedder
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  • karma defect
    karma defect Posts: 5,483
    amentvedder wrote:
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    At first I thought oh dear here we go again, but with that 2-2 you actually won one point on Celtic. Good job:D
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  • Brain of K.
    Brain of K. Posts: 1
    I'm not up on Liverpool's current roster for upcoming season but I will wait for Bobbie M. on FSC to give me the low down. I hope Cisse recovers from that nasty break pre -WC since he is an exciting player to watch.

    What did anyone think about MLS Allstars B team beating Chelsea? I know the game was meaningless but I was shocked at how off Chelsea looked ... even during pre-season. I expected the Blues to win or tie at minimum. You have to admit that Dwayne De Rosario's goal was sweet and should be highly rated on goals of the week.I'm sure Jose is not too worried about his boys since he has proven can get the job done and they are loaded with talent.

    I predict Bruce Arena will be able to make NY Red Bulls respectable too and make US Soccer regret letting him go. And I can't stand Eric Wynalda and I almost threw my beer through my tv on SAT having to listen to that fool do the Chelsea game. At least I'm increasing my spanish comprehension but switching to univison or telemundo.

    Cheers

    Kip

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