From what I can gather SS every relationship has highs and lows.
And some people do find themselves in that situation that you described but I don't think it's solely the domain of people over 40.
Fact is you either hit a rough patch and make some changes and are able to continue on with your partner or you make some changes and decide to go seperate ways. I know that there are people that will stay with each other miserable, and making each other miserable for years and years but they need to take a long hard look in the mirror I suspect.
im one of those people. there was a great quote in the departed that about sums it up for so many people i know (me in particular). he says something about how she has to leave becos he's irish and he will live miserably with something wrong rather than fix it.
Would anyone contest that a Dominatrix is misandrous? No, because she is facilitating the submissive's fantasy and her own at the same time. The role might be reversed when people make fake rape porn or something, but ultimately it has nothing to do with oppression of women, it has to do with supply and demand. There are over 50 identified paraphilias of which the porn industry tries to satisfy.
News flash, women look at porn. I don't remember the exact stat, but it was upwards of 8 million women who view porn each day.
I said that there is an aspect to some of the porn. This cannot be refuted. I could say there is an aspect to having a bear use a honey douche on you as you are tied to a redwood to SOME porn and still not be refuted...I am a female. I can see the appeal of porn. I have used it. I am also a dominatrix. um, I am not entirely sure what the news flash was regarding.
I was trying to better understand Harmless's reluctance to "own" that aspect of his sexuality.
and in the process made generalized statements trying to assist him in pinpointing something as a result of his statements...
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i dont remember, it just seemed like there were 5 different entries about sex with kids. how is that one different?
They are presumably the consequence of sexual development terminating at different critical phases.
There are only 3 that I'm aware of.
Nepiophilia (also infantophilia): sexual attraction to children three years old or younger
Pedophilia: sexual attraction to prepubescent children (British spelling: paedophilia)
Ephebophilia (also hebephilia): sexual attraction towards adolescents.
I've read a few papers on different theories as to their causes and they are distinctly different in terms of the theories. The general public wouldn't have a clue, to them it's all Pedophilia, unless the perpetrator is a woman.
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I said that there is an aspect to some of the porn. This cannot be refuted. I could say there is an aspect to having a bear use a honey douche on you as you are tied to a redwood to SOME porn and still not be refuted...I am a female. I can see the appeal of porn. I have used it. I am also a dominatrix. um, I am not entirely sure what the news flash was regarding.
I was trying to better understand Harmless's reluctance to "own" that aspect of his sexuality.
and in the process made generalized statements trying to assist him in pinpointing something as a result of his statements...
Well, I've just known women who got into porn and were quite satisfied with the lifestyle. So I didn't see at all as misogynistic. It seems to be a catch-phrase of the last 20+ years.
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im one of those people. there was a great quote in the departed that about sums it up for so many people i know (me in particular). he says something about how she has to leave becos he's irish and he will live miserably with something wrong rather than fix it.
Yeah, I'm one of those people too.
We do get stuck in things some times. But ultimately most of us get the hang of it and move on. Only to get stuck again.
They are presumably the consequence of sexual development terminating at different critical phases.
There are only 3 that I'm aware of.
Nepiophilia (also infantophilia): sexual attraction to children three years old or younger
Pedophilia: sexual attraction to prepubescent children (British spelling: paedophilia)
Ephebophilia (also hebephilia): sexual attraction towards adolescents.
I've read a few papers on different theories as to their causes and they are distinctly different in terms of the theories. The general public wouldn't have a clue, to them it's all Pedophilia, unless the perpetrator is a woman.
you're right, i didn't have a clue. i think scrolling down the list i didn't catch that they referred to different phases. though im not entirely sure what the difference is between the latter two.
you're right, i didn't have a clue. i think scrolling down the list i didn't catch that they referred to different phases. though im not entirely sure what the difference is between the latter two.
Well. I remember one paper on it that described the anatomical differences, but I can't recall them now. But if you read the Pedophilia article at wikipedia, it cites a study which has results that are representative of Ephebophelia instead.
The rates for Pedophilia are higher than for Nepiophilia and Ephebophilia is more common still. Many would not even consider Ephebophilia as remotely the same things as Pedophilia.
For example, I would think, most 25 year old guys would react to a hot 17 year old girl. I should point out too that pedophilia or ephebophilia refers to arousal and not action. I'm pretty sure most 25 year old guys would be aroused by a naked 17 year old girl, thus making them Ephibophiles.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Well. I remember one paper on it that described the anatomical differences, but I can't recall them now. But if you read the Pedophilia article at wikipedia, it cites a study which has results that are representative of Ephebophelia instead.
The rates for Pedophilia are higher than for Nepiophilia and Ephebophilia is more common still. Many would not even consider Ephebophilia as remotely the same things as Pedophilia.
For example, I would think, most 25 year old guys would react to a hot 17 year old girl. I should point out too that pedophilia or ephebophilia refers to arousal and not action. I'm pretty sure most 25 year old guys would be aroused by a naked 17 year old girl, thus making them Ephibophiles.
i think that makes 75% of the males in america technically pedophiles. i think that's slightly ridiculous though, that one day it's a paraphilia and the next she has a birthday and it's just normal attraction to a hottie?
im one of those people. there was a great quote in the departed that about sums it up for so many people i know (me in particular). he says something about how she has to leave becos he's irish and he will live miserably with something wrong rather than fix it.
F****** hell soulsinging. Thanks for that. God you've made me feel really miserable.
it depends on who's being cheated on. most guys are far more concerned about her physically cheating. i'd not care at all if my gal was sharing all her feelings with another guy and swooning over him as long as she's not fucking him and still putting out for me. this is becos biologically speaking, the man needs to worry more about expending his resources to care for another man's offspring.
to women, the emotional fidelity is what's key. they need that bond and when their man seeks it elsewhere, it seems to hurt them badly. they seem to worry less about their guy banging his intern when they see him come home happy to see her and loving her. it's when he gets distant and withdrawn and shares his emotions elsewhere that women start to get upset. biolgogically and evolutionarily speaking, they are more concerned about being able to count on his support in raising the children they have than him getting his casual jollies off elsewhere now and again.
i've known plenty of jealous guys too who aren't happy with their girlfriend even saying hello to somebody else :(
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well what are wives if not hired long term prostitutes/housekeepers?
add therapist, babysitter, accountant and a few others to that list.
What are husbands if not long term hired DIY men and spider killers?
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So you'd let your boyfriend fuck other girls as long as he doesn't get emotionally involved? Wow, I wish my girl was this open minded and/or have low enough self-esteem to take my cheating ass back afterwards....Unfortunately in my case, it is CLEARLY a deal breaker..
me too... if I EVER caught a man cheating :mad:
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add therapist, babysitter, accountant and a few others to that list.
What are husbands if not long term hired DIY men and spider killers?
My lounge light went out this morning and I'm not able to change the light bulb. And I always put spiders out the window. No wonder it all went wrong.
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That's exactly what I'm talking about. ^
Whenever I've been cheated on it's the lying and deception that's gone on to "hide" the cheating that has been more hurtful to me than any actual act itself. I mean sure yes, it hurts to know that someone you love screwed someone else, BUT that they lied about it repeatedly to cover it up (and I really have NO IDEA why you'd bother :rolleyes: ) well that is the the thing that made me completely reassess the relationship. Not the cheating.
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while I don't agree with the 'not the cheating' part... I agree with the rest. I know mistakes happen and I've been in situations before that I've instantly regretted too... so if he was open with me straight away and I could see he was guilty over it, that would be one LESS part of the whole horrible thing to have to deal with... at least there'd be no lies involved. However, if I found out months down the line that he couldn't trust me enough to be open and was therefore deceptive the entire time, that would definitely make it worse
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tell her if she'd wear a schoolgirl costume with a skirt that doesnt even cover her ass you wouldnt HAVE to look at porn. maybe i should just leave some around this week while she's gone. i've tried dropping every other hint i can, as well as outright talking. maybe if she thinks im going to cheat it will push to fucking do something about it.
yep, that will help her insecurities. I think it sounds like you really need to leave her cos it's not going anywhere.
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while I don't agree with the 'not the cheating' part... I agree with the rest. I know mistakes happen and I've been in situations before that I've instantly regretted too... so if he was open with me straight away and I could see he was guilty over it, that would be one LESS part of the whole horrible thing to have to deal with... at least there'd be no lies involved. However, if I found out months down the line that he couldn't trust me enough to be open and was therefore deceptive the entire time, that would definitely make it worse
Oh I was thinking of a specific relationship Hels. One in which the extent of the cheating was so bad but the lying to cover it up even worse that in the end it was the lying that I had the biggest problem with. Not because the cheating was less, but because I really couldn't understand WHY, if you were gonna screw THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE you'd even bother lying about it. I really couldn't understand WHY I needed to be lied to. Surely if he'd wanted to screw around he should have just done that and set me free to get on with my life. But it was the repeated denials to my questions over a period of years and the hideous way he kept making me feel bad for questioning him AND not trusting him that really caused the biggest problem for me. Basically here I was asking questions based on my instincts that he was up to something and then had the whole guilt trip laid on me for being suspicious of him. :rolleyes: The whole time he knew I was on the right track and he just kept lying and telling me I was paranoid and unfair to him. So yeah, the cheating sucked but the head fuck was way worse.
My lounge light went out this morning and I'm not able to change the light bulb. And I always put spiders out the window. No wonder it all went wrong.
ok, well I can change a lightbulb but I know if something happens the washing machine or the television or a fuse... my housemate knows exactly what to do, almost instinctively . He also puts the spiders out the window I'm not actually a big fan of killing them either
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i hesitate to join this little discussion but then i figured humans are so fascinating i just cant help myself, so here goes.
if i am in a relationship and for whatever reason my partner can not/ will not or chooses not to give me what it is i need despite my asking repeatedly for it, then i am going to seek it elsewhere. but i will tell my partner what i am doing. if he can't deal with that then he will have to decide what action he is going to take. if it ahppeens that i cannot for whetever reason give my partner what it is he needs then i am not going to forbid him to seek it elsewhere. this does not mean that i do not love my partner any less. this does not mean that i am willling to put my relationship at risk for my own selfish reasons. what this means is that i can acknowledge that during the course of relationships people go through all kinds of emotions and this may be why they 'turn off' or 'tune out'. but thats no reason to end it. and i don't see seeking temporary satisfaction as a reason to blow a realtionship youve invested so much time and heart and energy into if you truly love that person.
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Oh I was thinking of a specific relationship Hels. One in which the extent of the cheating was so bad but the lying to cover it up even worse that in the end it was the lying that I had the biggest problem with. Not because the cheating was less, but because I really couldn't understand WHY, if you were gonna screw THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE you'd even bother lying about it. I really couldn't understand WHY I needed to be lied to. Surely if he'd wanted to screw around he should have just done that and set me free to get on with my life. But it was the repeated denials to my questions over a period of years and the hideous way he kept making me feel bad for questioning him AND not trusting him that really caused the biggest problem for me. Basically here I was asking questions based on my instincts that he was up to something and then had the whole guilt trip laid on me for being suspicious of him. :rolleyes: The whole time he knew I was on the right track and he just kept lying and telling me I was paranoid and unfair to him. So yeah, the cheating sucked but the head fuck was way worse.
:eek: fucking hell! Well disregarding emotional vs physical cheating for a second... I've seen how emotional abuse can do as much if not more harm than physical abuse. That's ridiculous... once you cover something up, you're living a lie... and for me, honesty and trust is a HUGE thing so for someone to cover something up for months... yep, that would be that!
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Cheating is Cheating. Period. When you are with someone, you are WITH someone, physically and emotionally. And if you can't commit then get out.
I would be equally devastated should my hubby have an emotional affair OR a physical one. I'd kick his sorry ass to the curb - no excuses, no second chances. Marriage is a commitment and a forever one at that. I'd rather he come tell me he was unhappy and us split than him find something on the side.
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: eek: fucking hell! Well disregarding emotional vs physical cheating for a second... I've seen how emotional abuse can do as much if not more harm than physical abuse. That's ridiculous... once you cover something up, you're living a lie... and for me, honesty and trust is a HUGE thing so for someone to cover something up for months... yep, that would be that!
And it was! To be honest, I'm kinda glad in a way that I found out and didn't marry him as planned. I think he was expecting, once the truth of it all came out, that somehow I would forgive him and we'd be married anyway. :eek: Yeah, right! :rolleyes:
It sure has taught me the value of trusting my instincts though, so perhaps I shouldn't be too hasty to slam the lying, cheating prick?
You know what really gets my goat? I repeatedly told him that if he was screwing around that he needed to tell me. That it would be ok, as long as I knew the truth. Standard response was, "You really have issues girl, to keep accusing me of this all the time. It's not fair on me that you doubt me so much" WTF??????
So here's my take. If you cheat, say so. I'd prefer you didn't BUT I might be able to get past you doing it once if I know about it and can see that you're genuinely sorry and still working toward your relationship with me. But lie to me repeatedly and as soon as I know the truth your sorry arse is gone! And you won't see me for dust! So it'd wanna be a bloody good root is all I can say!
Oh I was thinking of a specific relationship Hels. One in which the extent of the cheating was so bad but the lying to cover it up even worse that in the end it was the lying that I had the biggest problem with. Not because the cheating was less, but because I really couldn't understand WHY, if you were gonna screw THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE you'd even bother lying about it. I really couldn't understand WHY I needed to be lied to. Surely if he'd wanted to screw around he should have just done that and set me free to get on with my life. But it was the repeated denials to my questions over a period of years and the hideous way he kept making me feel bad for questioning him AND not trusting him that really caused the biggest problem for me. Basically here I was asking questions based on my instincts that he was up to something and then had the whole guilt trip laid on me for being suspicious of him. :rolleyes: The whole time he knew I was on the right track and he just kept lying and telling me I was paranoid and unfair to him. So yeah, the cheating sucked but the head fuck was way worse.
only a woman would think this is strange behavior, becos only a woman would look back and revise history to say well, if he'd have just told me it would've been fine." fuck that. we know better. if we were honest with you about the shit we're thinking and doing, we'd be dealing pms x10. fuck that. we lie to you becos we know we have to. it's why bill clinton lied about lewinsky. and why every man in the history of cheating has lied when asked about it. that is a cardinal rule. there are 2 rules for me: you don't rat on friends, and you never admit to cheating. period. why the fuck would he admit to it? so you can flip out? so he has to deal with you crying? why?
This one is divided between genders .......most woman will be more hurt by a violation of their trust and love via a partner having a strong emotional connection with someone ......... where as most guys will have a real problem with somebody playing hide the salami with their princess!
awesome! and good to know this about guys. because i have a boyfriend who calls his female friend his sister.....because he says they are very good friends and there is emotional connection between. which fine by me.
I have this guy friend who i prefer to talk to more than to my boyfriend, and my guy friend is much more fun.
And i think is for the best for me, because if i ever break up with my boyfriend it's not going to be as painful. i would actually like to keep things like this forever, you know for example to have someone that i feel really close to emotionally be it male or female, but also have a boyfriend with whom i'm also close emotionally and physically.
and i don't know whether it's cheating or not.....i agree with guys, if i don't have sex then i'm not cheating!
You know what really gets my goat? I repeatedly told him that if he was screwing around that he needed to tell me. That it would be ok, as long as I knew the truth.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
if he had told you after this, you DEFINITELY should not have married him. becos he'd have to dumber than a ton of shit to believe that steaming pile of bullshit.
only a woman would think this is strange behavior, becos only a woman would look back and revise history to say well, if he'd have just told me it would've been fine." fuck that. we know better. if we were honest with you about the shit we're thinking and doing, we'd be dealing pms x10. fuck that. we lie to you becos we know we have to. it's why bill clinton lied about lewinsky. and why every man in the history of cheating has lied when asked about it. that is a cardinal rule. there are 2 rules for me: you don't rat on friends, and you never admit to cheating. period. why the fuck would he admit to it? so you can flip out? so he has to deal with you crying? why?
okay then just so long as you men dont freak out when we admit to having cheated, knowing youve done the same thing but dont have the balls enough to be honest about it.
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i dont remember, it just seemed like there were 5 different entries about sex with kids. how is that one different?
im one of those people. there was a great quote in the departed that about sums it up for so many people i know (me in particular). he says something about how she has to leave becos he's irish and he will live miserably with something wrong rather than fix it.
I said that there is an aspect to some of the porn. This cannot be refuted. I could say there is an aspect to having a bear use a honey douche on you as you are tied to a redwood to SOME porn and still not be refuted...I am a female. I can see the appeal of porn. I have used it. I am also a dominatrix. um, I am not entirely sure what the news flash was regarding.
I was trying to better understand Harmless's reluctance to "own" that aspect of his sexuality.
and in the process made generalized statements trying to assist him in pinpointing something as a result of his statements...
They are presumably the consequence of sexual development terminating at different critical phases.
There are only 3 that I'm aware of.
Nepiophilia (also infantophilia): sexual attraction to children three years old or younger
Pedophilia: sexual attraction to prepubescent children (British spelling: paedophilia)
Ephebophilia (also hebephilia): sexual attraction towards adolescents.
I've read a few papers on different theories as to their causes and they are distinctly different in terms of the theories. The general public wouldn't have a clue, to them it's all Pedophilia, unless the perpetrator is a woman.
Well, I've just known women who got into porn and were quite satisfied with the lifestyle. So I didn't see at all as misogynistic. It seems to be a catch-phrase of the last 20+ years.
Yeah, I'm one of those people too.
We do get stuck in things some times. But ultimately most of us get the hang of it and move on. Only to get stuck again.
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you're right, i didn't have a clue. i think scrolling down the list i didn't catch that they referred to different phases. though im not entirely sure what the difference is between the latter two.
Well. I remember one paper on it that described the anatomical differences, but I can't recall them now. But if you read the Pedophilia article at wikipedia, it cites a study which has results that are representative of Ephebophelia instead.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia#Extent_of_occurrence
The rates for Pedophilia are higher than for Nepiophilia and Ephebophilia is more common still. Many would not even consider Ephebophilia as remotely the same things as Pedophilia.
For example, I would think, most 25 year old guys would react to a hot 17 year old girl. I should point out too that pedophilia or ephebophilia refers to arousal and not action. I'm pretty sure most 25 year old guys would be aroused by a naked 17 year old girl, thus making them Ephibophiles.
i think that makes 75% of the males in america technically pedophiles. i think that's slightly ridiculous though, that one day it's a paraphilia and the next she has a birthday and it's just normal attraction to a hottie?
F****** hell soulsinging. Thanks for that. God you've made me feel really miserable.
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Oh I was thinking of a specific relationship Hels. One in which the extent of the cheating was so bad but the lying to cover it up even worse that in the end it was the lying that I had the biggest problem with. Not because the cheating was less, but because I really couldn't understand WHY, if you were gonna screw THAT MANY OTHER PEOPLE you'd even bother lying about it. I really couldn't understand WHY I needed to be lied to. Surely if he'd wanted to screw around he should have just done that and set me free to get on with my life. But it was the repeated denials to my questions over a period of years and the hideous way he kept making me feel bad for questioning him AND not trusting him that really caused the biggest problem for me. Basically here I was asking questions based on my instincts that he was up to something and then had the whole guilt trip laid on me for being suspicious of him. :rolleyes: The whole time he knew I was on the right track and he just kept lying and telling me I was paranoid and unfair to him. So yeah, the cheating sucked but the head fuck was way worse.
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if i am in a relationship and for whatever reason my partner can not/ will not or chooses not to give me what it is i need despite my asking repeatedly for it, then i am going to seek it elsewhere. but i will tell my partner what i am doing. if he can't deal with that then he will have to decide what action he is going to take. if it ahppeens that i cannot for whetever reason give my partner what it is he needs then i am not going to forbid him to seek it elsewhere. this does not mean that i do not love my partner any less. this does not mean that i am willling to put my relationship at risk for my own selfish reasons. what this means is that i can acknowledge that during the course of relationships people go through all kinds of emotions and this may be why they 'turn off' or 'tune out'. but thats no reason to end it. and i don't see seeking temporary satisfaction as a reason to blow a realtionship youve invested so much time and heart and energy into if you truly love that person.
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Cheating is Cheating. Period. When you are with someone, you are WITH someone, physically and emotionally. And if you can't commit then get out.
I would be equally devastated should my hubby have an emotional affair OR a physical one. I'd kick his sorry ass to the curb - no excuses, no second chances. Marriage is a commitment and a forever one at that. I'd rather he come tell me he was unhappy and us split than him find something on the side.
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It sure has taught me the value of trusting my instincts though, so perhaps I shouldn't be too hasty to slam the lying, cheating prick?
You know what really gets my goat? I repeatedly told him that if he was screwing around that he needed to tell me. That it would be ok, as long as I knew the truth. Standard response was, "You really have issues girl, to keep accusing me of this all the time. It's not fair on me that you doubt me so much" WTF??????
So here's my take. If you cheat, say so. I'd prefer you didn't BUT I might be able to get past you doing it once if I know about it and can see that you're genuinely sorry and still working toward your relationship with me. But lie to me repeatedly and as soon as I know the truth your sorry arse is gone! And you won't see me for dust! So it'd wanna be a bloody good root is all I can say!
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hey, it's not so bad. once you expect nothing but misery and people being assholes all the time, the only surprises you'll get will be pleasant
becos they're insecure and afraid she'll fuck them. not becos he's afraid she'll start sgaring her feelings with them.
I used to live by that theory but I'm growing out of it a bit.
only a woman would think this is strange behavior, becos only a woman would look back and revise history to say well, if he'd have just told me it would've been fine." fuck that. we know better. if we were honest with you about the shit we're thinking and doing, we'd be dealing pms x10. fuck that. we lie to you becos we know we have to. it's why bill clinton lied about lewinsky. and why every man in the history of cheating has lied when asked about it. that is a cardinal rule. there are 2 rules for me: you don't rat on friends, and you never admit to cheating. period. why the fuck would he admit to it? so you can flip out? so he has to deal with you crying? why?
awesome! and good to know this about guys. because i have a boyfriend who calls his female friend his sister.....because he says they are very good friends and there is emotional connection between. which fine by me.
I have this guy friend who i prefer to talk to more than to my boyfriend, and my guy friend is much more fun.
And i think is for the best for me, because if i ever break up with my boyfriend it's not going to be as painful. i would actually like to keep things like this forever, you know for example to have someone that i feel really close to emotionally be it male or female, but also have a boyfriend with whom i'm also close emotionally and physically.
and i don't know whether it's cheating or not.....i agree with guys, if i don't have sex then i'm not cheating!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
if he had told you after this, you DEFINITELY should not have married him. becos he'd have to dumber than a ton of shit to believe that steaming pile of bullshit.
and i respect that
okay then just so long as you men dont freak out when we admit to having cheated, knowing youve done the same thing but dont have the balls enough to be honest about it.
take a good look
this could be the day
hold my hand
lie beside me
i just need to say