Cigarette Littering!!

even flow?

jamie uk wrote:

So, how about non smokers who have to put up with your acrid stench indoors? Do you not think they get frustrated? Bars in the UK are much more pleasant places to be these days believe me. The silent majority have won in the end

Funny thing is I don't smoke ciggies. But unlike bars who just don't seem to know how to air out their space. I have no problem in the warmer weather letting my friends smoke in my house. And in the winter when I invite the smokers from the bars to come to my place and purchase inflated beer and spirits to be allowed to smoke indoors............well I make a killing.

Just make sure all you children crying about smokers in bars aren't abusing the legal substance alcoolhal and only having your two to three drinks before you are legally intoxicated. You know that law. Don't you!

NY PJ1

chadwick wrote:

you are hilarious
g d that is fuckin funny
good work

i wasnt trying to be funny

just saying when people butt in (no pun intended) to other people's business,,thats when they potentialy get their face smashed in
if i was in the car,i would have picked it up and threw it at the op

but thats just me

chadwick

NY PJ1 wrote:

i wasnt trying to be funny

just saying when people butt in (no pun intended) to other people's business,,thats when they potentialy get their face smashed in
if i was in the car,i would have picked it up and threw it at the op

but thats just me

oh you are hilarious
no doubt about it dude

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

Ok, I get why you don't like cigarette littering... but why ESPECIALLY? they're part of the problem... but it's a fucking HUGE problem... and there are plenty of contributors... and not all of them smokers. Do you react in the same way when you see a cloud of smoke come from some kinda industrial place? Do you drive? Ever fly? You want to pick on ONE group of people, I want you to tell ME what makes you so special as to cast the first stone, eh? What do you do to make the world a much better place?

Maybe cause this particular thread is about smokers
And technically it can be viewed as retaliation, not the first stone.
Carry on.

NY PJ1

chadwick wrote:

oh you are hilarious
no doubt about it dude

thanx "the chad"

TrixieCat

Rygar wrote:

Maybe cause this particular thread is about smokers
And technically it can be viewed as retaliation, not the first stone.
Carry on.

Always keeping it real Rygar.
I think you are one of the only people that genuinely tries to stay on topic.
Sure, all trashy messy people stink. But this is about cigarette smokers.
I just really don't like when my child is making a sand castle and is unearthing or walking around cigarette butts.

Rygar

TrixieCat wrote:

Always keeping it real Rygar.
I think you are one of the only people that genuinely tries to stay on topic.
Sure, all trashy messy people stink. But this is about cigarette smokers.
I just really don't like when my child is making a sand castle and is unearthing or walking around cigarette butts.

I'm usually a chronic derailer

I think the basic argument here is that some people don't consider cigarette butts litter and some do.

chadwick

NY PJ1 wrote:

thanx "the chad"

you're welcome

Heineken Helen

even flow? wrote:

Funny thing is I don't smoke ciggies. But unlike bars who just don't seem to know how to air out their space. I have no problem in the warmer weather letting my friends smoke in my house. And in the winter when I invite the smokers from the bars to come to my place and purchase inflated beer and spirits to be allowed to smoke indoors............well I make a killing.

Just make sure all you children crying about smokers in bars aren't abusing the legal substance alcoolhal and only having your two to three drinks before you are legally intoxicated. You know that law. Don't you!

I find it extremely ironic that people go on about the smell in bars . Like I said I'm a smoker IN FAVOUR of the ban... HOWEVER, since they banned smoking, now you can smell EVERYTHING... all the mouldy beer... any stench from the toilet... smoke used to cover all that up. Ideally fabreeze would be better but I just thought I'd point out the irony... carry on!

NY PJ1

Heineken Helen wrote:

I find it extremely ironic that people go on about the smell in bars . Like I said I'm a smoker IN FAVOUR of the ban... HOWEVER, since they banned smoking, now you can smell EVERYTHING... all the mouldy beer... any stench from the toilet... smoke used to cover all that up. Ideally fabreeze would be better but I just thought I'd point out the irony... carry on!

very very very ironic

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

I'm usually a chronic derailer

I think the basic argument here is that some people don't consider cigarette butts litter and some do.

but I was responding to the post where the OP said she hates all littering 'ESPECIALLY' cigarette butts and like I said, I see where people are coming from with this... BUT to insinuate that cigarette butts are the worst of the worst and that ALL smokers are dirty rotten littering bastards it's all part of the grander scheme of things to belittle smokers and the government gets everyone to agree. It's actually the governments who go out at night and plant loadsa cigarette butts all over the place to get us in trouble . I get your point about staying on topic... and this is FAR from derailing as you and I both know

TrixieCat

AmentsChick wrote:

Why oh why do people just toss their cigarette butts on the ground? So rude and disgusting. I *HATE* it.

No, this was the original statement.

chadwick

Heineken Helen wrote:

I find it extremely ironic that people go on about the smell in bars . Like I said I'm a smoker IN FAVOUR of the ban... HOWEVER, since they banned smoking, now you can smell EVERYTHING... all the mouldy beer... any stench from the toilet... smoke used to cover all that up. Ideally fabreeze would be better but I just thought I'd point out the irony... carry on!

alot of bars stink like shit with cigarette smoke in them
and they stink like shit without cigarette smoke in them

however, the smell from all the whiskeys blended with some cigar or pipe tabacco smells pritty good to me but the bar where this is @ is like an old man's type bar scene and it is kinda uneventful but very, very chilled out or even boring.

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

but I was responding to the post where the OP said she hates all littering 'ESPECIALLY' cigarette butts and like I said, I see where people are coming from with this... BUT to insinuate that cigarette butts are the worst of the worst and that ALL smokers are dirty rotten littering bastards it's all part of the grander scheme of things to belittle smokers and the government gets everyone to agree. It's actually the governments who go out at night and plant loadsa cigarette butts all over the place to get us in trouble . I get your point about staying on topic... and this is FAR from derailing as you and I both know

Nevermind, Trix posted the original statement.

Heineken Helen

TrixieCat wrote:

No, this was the original statement.

and I'm replying that it's hardly the end of the world... my response in COMPARING IT to other kinds of littering is as far from derailing as you, me or Rygar have been in months :rolleyes:

Heineken Helen

chadwick wrote:

alot of bars stink like shit with cigarette smoke in them
and they stink like shit without cigarette smoke in them

True and true. I worked in 2 bars in London, one had fantastic air conditioning and I never once smelled smoke at all... the 2nd had pretty much NO airconditioning... I had to keep opening the door... sometimes my eyes were watering so much I couldn't even see the customer. So really I completely empathise with non-smokers!... til they start bitching j/k

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

and I'm replying that it's hardly the end of the world... my response in COMPARING IT to other kinds of littering is as far from derailing as you, me or Rygar have been in months :rolleyes:

So what's your point with the comparison?

in_hiding79

Heineken Helen wrote:

huh? should the governments also ban non organic foods? Alcohol? sausages? Plenty of things CAN lead to bad health... smoking is but one of them... you wanna crack down on us... you're opening a whole new wormhole for yourself.

Sausages???!!! :eek:

They better not ban those...

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

So what's your point with the comparison?

the TITLE is cigarette littering... I'm just wondering what makes it DIFFERENT OR WORSE to any other kinda littering? Do non smokers think they can stand on some kinda non smoking pedestal whilst they drop their crisp packets, cans or drive their big SUV's or fly all around the world or whatever? Just cos they don't smoke don't make them a better person No littering is worse than any other... it's a pretty simple point and I don't see what the problem with it is.

Heineken Helen

in_hiding79 wrote:

Sausages???!!! :eek:

They better not ban those...

well watch out I read the other day that now they're saying a sausage a day leads to cancer. I can't continue this post without pointing out NOW that I do NOT mean any double entendres by ANY of this you dirty minded fuckers . What they fail to point out is that somebody who eats a sausage every day probably does not lead the healthiest lifestyle otherwise so how the fuck can they limit it to that one sausage they had for breakfast? :eek: BLASPHEMOUS!

Rygar

Heineken Helen wrote:

the TITLE is cigarette littering... I'm just wondering what makes it DIFFERENT OR WORSE to any other kinda littering? Do non smokers think they can stand on some kinda non smoking pedestal whilst they drop their crisp packets, cans or drive their big SUV's or fly all around the world or whatever? Just cos they don't smoke don't make them a better person No littering is worse than any other... it's a pretty simple point and I don't see what the problem with it is.

Well of course not, but you're making the assumption that the OP is driving an H3 everywhere and dropping styrofoam Mcdonald's wrappers out the window at every opportunity.
Litter is litter, smokers shouldn't be exempt from that. And of course people in glass houses....

AmentsChick

Heineken Helen wrote:

Ok, I get why you don't like cigarette littering... but why ESPECIALLY? they're part of the problem... but it's a fucking HUGE problem... and there are plenty of contributors... and not all of them smokers. Do you react in the same way when you see a cloud of smoke come from some kinda industrial place? Do you drive? Ever fly? You want to pick on ONE group of people, I want you to tell ME what makes you so special as to cast the first stone, eh? What do you do to make the world a much better place?

I feel like you deliberately challenge everything I post. Jesus Christ... :rolleyes:

AmentsChick

TrixieCat wrote:

Always keeping it real Rygar.
I think you are one of the only people that genuinely tries to stay on topic.
Sure, all trashy messy people stink. But this is about cigarette smokers.
I just really don't like when my child is making a sand castle and is unearthing or walking around cigarette butts.

Well said, TC.

Heineken Helen

Rygar wrote:

Well of course not, but you're making the assumption that the OP is driving an H3 everywhere and dropping styrofoam Mcdonald's wrappers out the window at every opportunity.
Litter is litter, smokers shouldn't be exempt from that. And of course people in glass houses....

No, I'm not assuming anything... but unless one lives an entirely environmentally friendly lifestyle, well they don't get to bunch one group of litterers into the 'worst' of the worst. I'm not saying smokers SHOULD be exempt... but there's been a LOT of extreme talk on this thread... although I suppose I shouldn't be surprised really.

AmentsChick

Heineken Helen wrote:

that ALL smokers are dirty rotten littering bastards

Don't put words in my mouth. Thank you.

AmentsChick

Heineken Helen wrote:

No, I'm not assuming anything... but unless one lives an entirely environmentally friendly lifestyle, well they don't get to bunch one group of litterers into the 'worst' of the worst. I'm not saying smokers SHOULD be exempt... but there's been a LOT of extreme talk on this thread... although I suppose I shouldn't be surprised really.

Where did I ever say "worst of the worst"?????????????????????? UGH...I quit this thread. Goodbye.

Heineken Helen

AmentsChick wrote:

I feel like you deliberately challenge everything I post. Jesus Christ... :rolleyes:

why do you take everything i say so personally? I apologise if I disagree with some of what you say but trust me, if I agree with somebody I agree with them, if I disagree I disagree... I don't go following any one person picking faults with what they're saying. I'm a smoker and I get a little tired with all the generalisations about smokers that can go on. I'm sorry if THAT bothers you :rolleyes:

If you REALLY think I'm out to get you put me on ignore, but I can guarantee you I'm not. I've said MUCH worse to some good friends of mine on here... and I don't see them constantly getting offended. I don't reply to the PERSON but to the post.

NY PJ1

my 2 favorite girls going at it ... lol

im going to smoke

Heineken Helen

AmentsChick wrote:

Don't put words in my mouth. Thank you.

there was a wink after that... I was doing a little bit of exaggerating with a little bit of sarcasm :rolleyes: but I wasn't the first in this thread in fairness. Learn to argue properly instead of storming off in a huff at the first sign of somebody disagreeing... what did you expect with a thread like this? It's been done before.

NY PJ1

AmentsChick wrote:

I feel like you deliberately challenge everything I post. Jesus Christ... :rolleyes:

wahhhhhhhhhhhh