its not even losing to the red sox thats gonna cost us..its these games right here...what a fucking choke job and a giveaway of a fucking game. Yea I feel you bettermanning :mad:
go white sox tonite?? dammit
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yea I know...we shouldn't even play the last 28 games, lol
seriously tho...lets say these guys do take 4 out of 6 from TB..just saying and all of a sudden theyre like what 5 back from the division lead? with still about 18 games left and a 4 game set with the Chisox and a season ending finale wth you guys
all I want is for that last series to be relevant and have wild card implications and I think we can get close enough to do that still
6 gb the WC with 28 left to go
its gonna be fun either way
The thing is if you take 4 of 6 from Tampa, you just make up 2 games in the standings.
Let's say the Red Sox go 14-14 the rest of the way (which considering they have 19 games at Fenway seems unlikely), after today's loss the Yanks would have to go 20-7 just to tie and hope that either the Twins or White Sox falter as well down the stretch.
I love reading your support, but the the Yanks have been done for a few weeks now.
The thing is if you take 4 of 6 from Tampa, you just make up 2 games in the standings.
Let's say the Red Sox go 14-14 the rest of the way (which considering they have 19 games at Fenway seems unlikely), after today's loss the Yanks would have to go 20-7 just to tie and hope that either the Twins or White Sox falter as well down the stretch.
I love reading your support, but the the Yanks have been done for a few weeks now.
damn :(
well since you put it that way and after a game like today it's pretty much a wrap. Esp if you guys win tonite. oh well..it's been fun (well..not the A-rod part..just the whole staying in the race kinda)
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The Yankees need to just finish up the season strong for next year. Then let things fall where they may.
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its not even losing to the red sox thats gonna cost us..its these games right here...what a fucking choke job and a giveaway of a fucking game. Yea I feel you bettermanning :mad:
did he? I kept track on yahoo gamechannel..wasnt able to watch todays game
going tomorrow tho to what could possible be my last visit to that stadium,
damn,its gonna be weird.
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did he? I kept track on yahoo gamechannel..wasnt able to watch todays game
going tomorrow tho to what could possible be my last visit to that stadium,
damn,its gonna be weird.
He flipped the ball low to Jeter on a DP grounder. That led to the Blue Jays getting it to 6-5. He had enough time to pivot and throw. I heard it on the radio first. Then saw the replay n YES later.
Hughes is listed as Monday's AAA starter. That's also the day the roster expands. He could be the started for the Detroit game. His last 2 starts against them weren't great. But I would like to see him back.
Hughes is listed as Monday's AAA starter. That's also the day the roster expands. He could be the started for the Detroit game. His last 2 starts against them weren't great. But I would like to see him back.
might as well
we need to start seeing why we kept him and didnt pull the trigger on the Santana deal
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might as well
we need to start seeing why we kept him and didnt pull the trigger on the Santana deal
I think they're going to send him, Joba and Kennedy to the Arizona Fall league to increase their innings. Otherwise it'll be the same next year with how many innings they're allowed.
I think they're going to send him, Joba and Kennedy to the Arizona Fall league to increase their innings. Otherwise it'll be the same next year with how many innings they're allowed.
interesting.
those rules still apply on how many pitches theyre allowed to pitch? I thought it was only for like their first yr.
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interesting.
those rules still apply on how many pitches theyre allowed to pitch? I thought it was only for like their first yr.
They pitch a certain amount of innings a year. I think they increase it by 40. Last year Joba was reaching his limit. That's wy he was brought up to complete those innings in the bullpen. This year he was going to be allowed to throw about 140ip. Which is why started out in the bullpen earlier this year. Then worked his way into the rotation. But since he won't make those innings this year. Then it's going to be the same next year. Unless he pitches in AFL.
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WOW! I never new things were that bad as far as A-Rod being clutch. It's horrid for the amount of money that's paid and guaranteed to him.
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Man I'm so glad the Sox didn't trade for him but then again if he had come to Beantown I think he wolud have played great. Maybe even a couple more WS but then again I would be hoping and a praying for that.
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Man I'm so glad the Sox didn't trade for him but then again if he had come to Beantown I think he wolud have played great. Maybe even a couple more WS but then again I would be hoping and a praying for that.
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In thinking of totally what if scenarios, I was thinking what if the Yankees kept Soriano at second, used some fill-in at third in 2004 while Boone was hurt and then traded Robinson Cano in a deal for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell. I guess they might have had to include Wang in that deal but back in 2005 with Soriano still on the team, that might be a smart deal.
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In thinking of totally what if scenarios, I was thinking what if the Yankees kept Soriano at second, used some fill-in at third in 2004 while Boone was hurt and then traded Robinson Cano in a deal for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell. I guess they might have had to include Wang in that deal but back in 2005 with Soriano still on the team, that might be a smart deal.
True, but could you have imagined the 3-4-5 for the Red Sox being Ortiz, A Rod and Magglio Ordonez from 04 to now. Because getting Ordonez was the second part of the A Rod trade for Boston.
True, but could you have imagined the 3-4-5 for the Red Sox being Ortiz, A Rod and Magglio Ordonez from 04 to now. Because getting Ordonez was the second part of the A Rod trade for Boston.
true, that'd be pretty impressive but what if the Yankees didn't jump in. would a-rod still have gone to Boston after the whole thing with the players association not wanting him to re-structure his contract.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
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Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
true, that'd be pretty impressive but what if the Yankees didn't jump in. would a-rod still have gone to Boston after the whole thing with the players association not wanting him to re-structure his contract.
The Yankees jumped in after the Red Sox trade was complete but rejected by the Player's union. A Rod was going to be a Red Sox if the player's association didn't step in December 03. The Yanks didn't trade for him until February 04.
I'd say that if the Yankees did not jump in and grab him, he would still be in Texas. remember, after the Boston deal fell thru, they had that pomp and circumstances ceremony naming him captain. They were all in tuxedos. I think that was Texas way of trying to patch things up, though I'm sure Boras had a hand in setting that up as well
The Yankees jumped in after the Red Sox trade was complete but rejected by the Player's union. A Rod was going to be a Red Sox if the player's association didn't step in December 03. The Yanks didn't trade for him until February 04.
That's what I meant. If I remember correctly, if the Yankees didn't jump in he was going back to Texas.
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Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
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A-rod just never existed....the whole WORLD would be a much better place
no drama, no wasting money, no mass media attention
I just wish I could go on the rest of my life without hearing that fucking name again. Unfortunately the sad reality is its never gonna happen. His name is gonna be as popular as any baseball legend for ...well....just about eternity :mad:
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A-rod just never existed....the whole WORLD would be a much better place
no drama, no wasting money, no mass media attention
I just wish I could go on the rest of my life without hearing that fucking name again. Unfortunately the sad reality is its never gonna happen. His name is gonna be as popular as any baseball legend for ...well....just about eternity :mad:
Yea he caused all wars. Bush getting elected. The stock markets to crash. Creed to become a band. Only two day weekends.
By the way he has 4 rbi's. But I guess it doesn't count cuz they have 11 runs. In an 11-8 lead.
A-Rod Sucks. He's the biggest jinx and most overrated player ever.
No. But I don't think it's fair that he's the only one being picked on. Don Mattingly is my favorite Yankee of all time. And everyone would say the same about him. Had he been playing now would you treat him the same way?
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it's not up to him to bunt on his own. If he did everyone would kill him.
go white sox tonite?? dammit
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honestly, i can't think of a comment that's sarcastic enough to post in response to this.
The thing is if you take 4 of 6 from Tampa, you just make up 2 games in the standings.
Let's say the Red Sox go 14-14 the rest of the way (which considering they have 19 games at Fenway seems unlikely), after today's loss the Yanks would have to go 20-7 just to tie and hope that either the Twins or White Sox falter as well down the stretch.
I love reading your support, but the the Yanks have been done for a few weeks now.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
well since you put it that way and after a game like today it's pretty much a wrap. Esp if you guys win tonite. oh well..it's been fun (well..not the A-rod part..just the whole staying in the race kinda)
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Didn't Cano make a costly error.
going tomorrow tho to what could possible be my last visit to that stadium,
damn,its gonna be weird.
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He flipped the ball low to Jeter on a DP grounder. That led to the Blue Jays getting it to 6-5. He had enough time to pivot and throw. I heard it on the radio first. Then saw the replay n YES later.
and man oh man :(
I didn't know about the A-rod ground out till tonight.
Bogus, guys. I can't believe it.
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It was a hard hit grounder. Sometimes you get a bloop hit. Other times you hit it hard and it's right at someone.
we need to start seeing why we kept him and didnt pull the trigger on the Santana deal
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I think they're going to send him, Joba and Kennedy to the Arizona Fall league to increase their innings. Otherwise it'll be the same next year with how many innings they're allowed.
those rules still apply on how many pitches theyre allowed to pitch? I thought it was only for like their first yr.
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They pitch a certain amount of innings a year. I think they increase it by 40. Last year Joba was reaching his limit. That's wy he was brought up to complete those innings in the bullpen. This year he was going to be allowed to throw about 140ip. Which is why started out in the bullpen earlier this year. Then worked his way into the rotation. But since he won't make those innings this year. Then it's going to be the same next year. Unless he pitches in AFL.
A-Rod is a $300-million migraine
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=Ak60s4bJ1q2MGKzs8aUe53oRvLYF?slug=jp-arod083108&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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WOW! I never new things were that bad as far as A-Rod being clutch. It's horrid for the amount of money that's paid and guaranteed to him.
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I told you all he sucks! Blech :(
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
In thinking of totally what if scenarios, I was thinking what if the Yankees kept Soriano at second, used some fill-in at third in 2004 while Boone was hurt and then traded Robinson Cano in a deal for Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell. I guess they might have had to include Wang in that deal but back in 2005 with Soriano still on the team, that might be a smart deal.
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Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
True, but could you have imagined the 3-4-5 for the Red Sox being Ortiz, A Rod and Magglio Ordonez from 04 to now. Because getting Ordonez was the second part of the A Rod trade for Boston.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
true, that'd be pretty impressive but what if the Yankees didn't jump in. would a-rod still have gone to Boston after the whole thing with the players association not wanting him to re-structure his contract.
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Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
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MSG 2024, MSG 2024
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"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
The Yankees jumped in after the Red Sox trade was complete but rejected by the Player's union. A Rod was going to be a Red Sox if the player's association didn't step in December 03. The Yanks didn't trade for him until February 04.
- 8/28/98
- 9/2/00
- 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
- 8/2/07, 8/5/07
- 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
- 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
- 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
That's what I meant. If I remember correctly, if the Yankees didn't jump in he was going back to Texas.
Albany 2006 Camden 2006 E. Rutherford 2, 2006 Inglewood 2006,
Chicago 2007
Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
Fenway 2, 2018
MSG 2022
St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
MSG 2024, MSG 2024
Philadelphia 2024
"I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
Things happen in the game. Nothing you
can do. I don't go and say,
"I'm gonna beat this guy up."
A-rod just never existed....the whole WORLD would be a much better place
no drama, no wasting money, no mass media attention
I just wish I could go on the rest of my life without hearing that fucking name again. Unfortunately the sad reality is its never gonna happen. His name is gonna be as popular as any baseball legend for ...well....just about eternity :mad:
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
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Yea he caused all wars. Bush getting elected. The stock markets to crash. Creed to become a band. Only two day weekends.
By the way he has 4 rbi's. But I guess it doesn't count cuz they have 11 runs. In an 11-8 lead.
What are you, the President of his fan club?
A-Rod Sucks. He's the biggest jinx and most overrated player ever.
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No. But I don't think it's fair that he's the only one being picked on. Don Mattingly is my favorite Yankee of all time. And everyone would say the same about him. Had he been playing now would you treat him the same way?