The 2008 New York Yankees

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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    jimed14 wrote:
    Letting Orlando Cabrera go for Edgar Rentaria, who shit the bed.

    Sending Rentaria to Atlanta and paying the majority of his salary only to see him be an all star there.

    While we got Bay, we WAY over paid for him ... we're paying a majority of Manny's salary while he's in LA (granted, the sox were kind of forced into that one.)

    signing Lugo

    overpaying Drew.

    signing B.H. Kim

    Crisp for Shoppach and Marte ... Shoppach will be the best player of that deal, just when we need someone to take over for Varitek

    Gagne, Gagne, Gagne ....

    the sox have certianly had their share of fuckups.

    Don't forget signing Matt Clement and Javy Lopez and trading for Wily Mo Pena.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    jimed14 wrote:
    Letting Orlando Cabrera go for Edgar Rentaria, who shit the bed.

    Sending Rentaria to Atlanta and paying the majority of his salary only to see him be an all star there.

    While we got Bay, we WAY over paid for him ... we're paying a majority of Manny's salary while he's in LA (granted, the sox were kind of forced into that one.)

    signing Lugo

    overpaying Drew.

    signing B.H. Kim

    Crisp for Shoppach and Marte ... Shoppach will be the best player of that deal, just when we need someone to take over for Varitek

    Gagne, Gagne, Gagne ....

    the sox have certianly had their share of f-ups.
    LOL
    long time no see! How's San Fran?
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  • jimed14 wrote:
    Letting Orlando Cabrera go for Edgar Rentaria, who shit the bed.

    Sending Rentaria to Atlanta and paying the majority of his salary only to see him be an all star there.

    While we got Bay, we WAY over paid for him ... we're paying a majority of Manny's salary while he's in LA (granted, the sox were kind of forced into that one.)

    signing Lugo

    overpaying Drew.

    signing B.H. Kim

    Crisp for Shoppach and Marte ... Shoppach will be the best player of that deal, just when we need someone to take over for Varitek

    Gagne, Gagne, Gagne ....

    the sox have certianly had their share of fuckups.

    yeah, but you guys still get it done. it amazes me how many times the sox have been down in games only to come back in the 7th, 8th, or 9th to win it. anyone that's beating boston in the last 3 innings and starts to relax ends up getting bit on the ass. it's the complete opposite in the bronx. they get down by a run or two and that's it. it's kind of like the entire team folds. it's sickening.

    i wish paul o'neill was still playing. we need someone with his passion in that dugout and on the field.

    hey, does anyone know what the pay schedule is with ball players? my wife was asking how often do they get paid and i didn't have an answer for her. i mean, do they get a weekly check? monthly?
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  • NOCODE#1NOCODE#1 Posts: 1,477
    ok, i can't take it anymore. i seriously think nocode's wife is posting with his username.

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  • jimed14jimed14 Posts: 9,488
    Allie wrote:
    LOL
    long time no see! How's San Fran?

    as long as I stay out of the yankees thread ... it's good. :D

    yeah, but you guys still get it done. it amazes me how many times the sox have been down in games only to come back in the 7th, 8th, or 9th to win it. anyone that's beating boston in the last 3 innings and starts to relax ends up getting bit on the ass.

    well, that's character in the clubhouse ... Varitek, Youkilis, Ortiz, Lowell ... on down the line ... fire, tenacity ... it's why Youkilis got in a scuffle with Manny and why Manny was dealt ... laziness, give up ... doesn't play in that club house ... ask Nomar. :D
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,067
    I think Hughes should be called up for the next turn. I'm not sure if he should take Rasner or Ponson's spot yet.
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  • smarcheesmarchee Windsor, Ontario Posts: 14,539
    and lurking around the corner are the mighty Jays :D
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    smarchee wrote:
    and lurking around the corner are the mighty Jays :D
    as are the Twins and White Sox depending on who takes the division so the Sux arent a lock for the WC yet

    gonna have to root Toronto since I was born there if it comes down to it in the end..fuck it..but by that point I'll be so into my Giants and Rangers I'l be hoping Spring training doesnt come around too soon :)
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    stickboy wrote:
    as are the Twins and White Sox depending on who takes the division so the Sux arent a lock for the WC yet

    gonna have to root Toronto since I was born there if it comes down to it in the end..but by that point I'll be so into my Giants and Rangers I'l be hoping Spring training doesnt come around too soon :)
    I can't believe the Yanks likely might not make the playoffs. :(
    that is so bogus!

    you know what I think, I hate to say it but I think it's Tampa Bay's year. Every other team that's never won or hasn't won in eons got their shot (ie: the White Sox, the Red Sox)...it's Tampa Bay this year and then Speedy's Cubbies are going to get a shot.

    And we are NEVER going to get to or win a WS as long as A-Rod is on the team. I've said it before in here and I believe he is a jinx on the entire team.
    The year he leaves=next time we win WS

    And Girardi is so fired.

    And somewhere in L.A. I bet Torre is laughing at this :/
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    firing Girardi would be such a wrong move ause seriously..who do they bring in?? He deserves at least one more yr with a full healthy and better lineup

    and I really dont see Torre laughing..I think he might actually be feeling bad for his boys like Jete and Mo Jorge, etc for haviing to deal with this bullshit Torre always been and always be a class act

    I wouldnt mind seeing the Cubbies finally ending their jinx tho..thatd be pretty exciting to witness as a part of history
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,463

    hey, does anyone know what the pay schedule is with ball players? my wife was asking how often do they get paid and i didn't have an answer for her. i mean, do they get a weekly check? monthly?

    Bi-weekly. A-rod's pay stub is about $2 million, twice a month. :eek:
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    stickboy wrote:
    firing Girardi would be such a wrong move ause seriously..who do they bring in?? He deserves at least one more yr with a full healthy and better lineup

    and I really dont see Torre laughing..I think he might actually be feeling bad for his boys like Jete and Mo Jorge, etc for haviing to deal with this bullshit Torre always been and always be a class act

    I wouldnt mind seeing the Cubbies finally ending their jinx tho..thatd be pretty exciting to witness as a part of history


    you don't think the Steinbrenner's aren't going to fire Girardi? That's classic. They have to blame someone. I don't think it's all his fault but I think it's a possiblity. Last year's team had injuries too and they eeked into the playoffs.

    I don't think Torre would laugh in public. In private I think he's smirking a little bit :)
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  • stickboystickboy Posts: 2,981
    Allie wrote:
    you don't think the Steinbrenner's aren't going to fire Girardi? That's classic. They have to blame someone. I don't think it's all his fault but I think it's a possiblity. Last year's team had injuries too and they eeked into the playoffs.

    I don't think Torre would laugh in public. In private I think he's smirking a little bit :)
    man I hope not..Joe G's one of the few who have actually showed that they care this yr

    prolly right about Torre too tho..maybe deep inside how they treated him he's actually happy :(

    the ownership should blame themselves for the Arod fiasco and bullshit trades Not Girardi
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    stickboy wrote:
    man I hope not..Joe G's one of the few who have actually showed that they care this yr

    prolly right about Torre too tho..maybe deep inside how they treated him he's actually happy :(

    the ownership should blame themselves for the Arod fiasco,
    Not Girardi

    agreed! I am no A-Rod fan.

    Plus the Dodgers are 3 games back in the NL west. I don't know where they are in the wild card
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,067
    someone posted this on another site.

    2007 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
    Bases empty- .296 AVG, 18 HR, 18 RBI
    Runners on- .329 AVG, 36 HR, 138 RBI
    RISP- .333 AVG, 18 HR, 98 RBI
    RISP w/2 outs- .318 AVG, 12 HR, 46 RBI
    Bases Loaded- .500 AVG, 3 HR, 25 RBI

    2006 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
    Bases empty- .288 AVG, 16 HR, 16 RBI
    Runners on- .293 AVG, 19 HR, 105 RBI
    RISP- .302 AVG, 10 HR, 85 RBI
    RISP w/2 outs- .313 AVG, 4 HR 33 RBI
    Bases loaded- .474 AVG, 2 HR, 25 RBI

    2005 Situational stats for Alex Rodriguez:
    Bases empty- .337 AVG, 27 HR, 27 RBI
    Runners on- .305 AVG, 21 HR, 103 RBI
    RISP- .290, 9 HR, 77 RBI
    RISP w/2 outs- .302 AVG, 5 HR, 38 RBI
    Bases loaded- .438 AVG, 1 HR, 20 RBI
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  • jimed14 wrote:
    Letting Orlando Cabrera go for Edgar Rentaria, who shit the bed.

    Sending Rentaria to Atlanta and paying the majority of his salary only to see him be an all star there.

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    what may hurt even more is that Atlanta flipped Renteria for two very good young players, SP Jair Jurrjens and SS Yunel Escobar. Terrible move by Detroit
  • Is it me,...or has basically every move cashman made the past 4-5 years failed??? Except Abreu and I do think Girardi is the man. Other than that every other move did not live up to expectations. & pretty much every move boston made worked out favorably to them. Even this year. Bay has had great games vs. the Yanks already and hit pretty clutch. Pudge? 0 for 85

    I was thinking about that after my post...maybe Cashman shouldn't be back. he gets all the credit for the 98,99, and 00 championships, but he won them with Gene Michael and Buck Showalters team. and Bob Watson. Maybe it's time for a change. Buck Showalter for GM?
  • igotid88 wrote:
    I think Hughes should be called up for the next turn. I'm not sure if he should take Rasner or Ponson's spot yet.

    couldn't agree more. I'd so much rather take a shot with him, and even Kennedy who's become a bit of a pariah, than Ponson and Rasner. Speaking of Cashman, the main reason for him to go is that he's been stockpiling pitchers for years, and yet Ponson and Rasner are making 40% of this teams starts. I know that's because Joba and Wang are hurt, but still....He should have a much more reliable Plan B, C, D, E, F and G.
  • Allie wrote:
    you don't think the Steinbrenner's aren't going to fire Girardi? That's classic. They have to blame someone. I don't think it's all his fault but I think it's a possiblity. Last year's team had injuries too and they eeked into the playoffs.

    I don't think Torre would laugh in public. In private I think he's smirking a little bit :)

    no chance Girarid gets fired. Hank has already thrown in the towel on this season, and absolved Girardi of any blame. Not that Hank's word means anything after the "if he opts out, he's not coming back" fiasco.
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,067
    couldn't agree more. I'd so much rather take a shot with him, and even Kennedy who's become a bit of a pariah, than Ponson and Rasner. Speaking of Cashman, the main reason for him to go is that he's been stockpiling pitchers for years, and yet Ponson and Rasner are making 40% of this teams starts. I know that's because Joba and Wang are hurt, but still....He should have a much more reliable Plan B, C, D, E, F and G.

    I think cause most of the young pitchers have either come out of major surgery or have been injured. I don't know why they haven't given Chase Wright another shot. They still can't be punishing him for giving 4 homers back to back in Boston.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    no chance Girarid gets fired. Hank has already thrown in the towel on this season, and absolved Girardi of any blame. Not that Hank's word means anything after the "if he opts out, he's not coming back" fiasco.
    I don't think that means anything, esp if they really dont' make the playoffs for the first time, since...when? mid 90's? I think Joe has a shot of getting canned. they have to 'blame' someone, it's the 'Steinbrenner way' I don't think they should do that at all, he can only do so much with an injured and aged pitching staff, but I think it is a possibility.

    I just hope they go after more quality pitchers in the off season and not focus on the star hitters SO much. We have enough hitters, we need more quality/reliable pitching.

    blech.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,067
    Allie wrote:
    I don't think that means anything, esp if they really dont' make the playoffs for the first time, since...when? mid 90's? I think Joe has a shot of getting canned. they have to 'blame' someone, it's the 'Steinbrenner way' I don't think they should do that at all, he can only do so much with an injured and aged pitching staff, but I think it is a possibility.

    I just hope they go after more quality pitchers in the off season and not focus on the star hitters SO much. We have enough hitters, we need more quality/reliable pitching.

    blech.

    They also came into this season with the possibility of not going into the playoffs. Because of starting the season with 2 rookies pitchers. Then moving Joba in there later. Not knowing if Mussina will pitch any better than last year.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    igotid88 wrote:
    They also came into this season with the possibility of not going into the playoffs. Because of starting the season with 2 rookies pitchers. Then moving Joba in there later. Not knowing if Mussina will pitch any better than last year.
    true, good points.

    I don't know, I think Joe will get a bad rap for all of this. He had big ginormous shoes to fill. It's just a feeling I have.
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,067
    Allie wrote:
    true, good points.

    I don't know, I think Joe will get a bad rap for all of this. He had big ginormous shoes to fill. It's just a feeling I have.

    Although you could argue the offense should have been doing more than what they have been.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    igotid88 wrote:
    Although you could argue the offense should have been doing more than what they have been.
    also true. It's a bad combination of poor offense, poor pitching and injuries. And then this freak Tampa Bay thing! Who would have thought that they are probably going to claim the AL East title?!
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  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,067
    Allie wrote:
    also true. It's a bad combination of poor offense, poor pitching and injuries. And then this freak Tampa Bay thing! Who would have thought that they are probably going to claim the AL East title?!

    I had a feeling they were going to compete this year. Especially the way they were playing late last year. But 1st place is a surprise. The fact that they're still there is even more surprising.
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  • Solat13Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    wow, now that's predictable. a Sox win, and you're back. 4.34 ERA, over 20+ starts. And Byrd was only good lasy year cause he was on HGH. Off the HGH, he's a joke. Have fun watching that.

    I did have fun watching Byrd last night. ;)

    Sorry, I know it's a rough stretch for you guys, but I couldn't resist.
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    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Bottom line is.....

    They need this year to end and then start over a bit.
    Joe Girardi is the man. I beleive he did not properly get to use his baseball smarts this year with this team. He needs a Girardi team, not a cashman torre team.

    Girardi needs guiys like him that show emotion and bust their ass to win games. That being said i'm not sure cashman is the man to provide the yanks with that sort of team. I say that only based on what he has provided.
    ie,....giambi, kevin brown, jaret wright, damon, arod, pudge, pavano, on and on and on

    At the end of this year Girardi and the beginning of next, the yankee staff need to let these guys know this high paid celebrity in NY type baseball is over. I'd take 9 Scott Brosious over 9 Damon, Arods, Giambi's ANYDAY!

    btw....2 more K's for Arod today. 1st inning was a rally killer.
    As for 2008 --- Lets go CUBS!
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,308
    Bottom line is.....

    They need this year to end and then start over a bit.
    Joe Girardi is the man. I beleive he did not properly get to use his baseball smarts this year with this team. He needs a Girardi team, not a cashman torre team.

    Girardi needs guiys like him that show emotion and bust their ass to win games. That being said i'm not sure cashman is the man to provide the yanks with that sort of team. I say that only based on what he has provided.
    ie,....giambi, kevin brown, jaret wright, damon, arod, pudge, pavano, on and on and on

    At the end of this year Girardi and the beginning of next, the yankee staff need to let these guys know this high paid celebrity in NY type baseball is over. I'd take 9 Scott Brosious over 9 Damon, Arods, Giambi's ANYDAY!

    btw....2 more K's for Arod today. 1st inning was a rally killer.
    As for 2008 --- Lets go CUBS!

    I'd exclude Damon. He's old but he still busts it consistently, age is his problem, but agree with the rest.
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  • I'd exclude Damon. He's old but he still busts it consistently, age is his problem, but agree with the rest.

    why doesn't Pedroia head back to the dugout, then maybe grab some popcorn with the Bleacher Creatures on his way to 3rd.

    Seriously though, can't blame a guy for trying, but what are the umps watching? And these guys complained about instant replay?
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