The 2008 New York Yankees

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  • Champagne Breakfast
    Champagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    More talk on Matsui to the SF Giants today. In the NY papers. No complaints out of me as I always thought Matsui was overrated. I'd take Damon in left 10 out of 10 times. Apparently he was asked to waive his no trade to go to SF. Now lets see what we get in return.
    Maybe Matsui just wanted to return to a team named the Giants. SF is closer to Japan as well.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Yankees sign latroy hawkins, pending physical

    per rotoworld:

    Hawkins made a lot more sense for an NL team. He was just in the AL East in 2006 and finished with a 4.48 ERA and 27 strikeouts in 60 1/3 innings for Baltimore. Last season, he fanned 29 in 55 1/3 innings for the Rockies. In his career, he has ERAs of 6.45 versus Baltimore, 5.79 versus Boston, 4.53 versus Toronto and 4.43 versus Tampa Bay. His best WHIP against any of the four teams is a 1.47 mark.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    yeah, he's not that good. I'd rather have seen them work some kids into the mix (Horne, Jackson, Ohlendorf) At least if they stink, they're stink at the league minimum. That said, i really am intrigued to see how Girardi treats his bullpen. If hawkins signed last year, with torre here, he'd have pitched in 100 games.
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    Anyone know when single tickets will go on sale?
    ... and the will to show I will always be better than before.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    good question. They used to go on sale before Xmas, which was smart. The last few years I think it's been Jan or Feb
  • meme
    meme Posts: 4,695
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    good question. They used to go on sale before Xmas, which was smart. The last few years I think it's been Jan or Feb

    Thanks, I'll keep my eyes open :)
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  • igotid88
    igotid88 Posts: 28,630
    Alex finalized his deal. And says Boras was the one who told him to opt out because the Yanks did not want him. And he didn't know it would be announced during the world series.
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  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    breakdown of a-rod's deal:

    Signing bonus - $10 mil
    2008 - $27 mil
    2009 - $32 mil
    2010 - $32 mil
    2011 - $31 mil
    2012 - $29 mil
    2013 - $28 mil
    2014 - $25 mil
    2015 - $21 mil
    2016 - $20 mil
    2017 - $20 mil
    Total - $275 mil

    Signing Bonus:
    Paid as follows: $2 million upon approval by commissioner's office; $1 million each Jan. 15 from 2009-13; and $3 million on Jan. 15, 2014.

    Historic Achievement:
    A-Rod could receive an additional $6 million each for five milestones that the team designates as historic achievements. They are contemplated to be tying the home run marks of Willie Mays (660), Babe Ruth (714), Hank Aaron (755) and Barry Bonds, and breaking Bonds' major league record.
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    c'mon, just admit it already. You're a closeted Yankee fan
  • JSBE
    JSBE Posts: 1,078
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    c'mon, just admit it already. You're a closeted Yankee fan

    me? no way. i just like to pass along information, that's all.

    hope the yanks enjoy paying a-rod $30mil+ (not including luxury tax) in 2009-2011.
  • intodeep
    intodeep Posts: 7,249
    JSBE wrote:
    me? no way. i just like to pass along information, that's all.

    hope the yanks enjoy paying a-rod $30mil+ (not including luxury tax) in 2009-2011.

    It is actually pretty smart i think. He should be performing at his peak during that time. The way the contract is set up being front loaded would make the possibility of a trade more feasable down the line if AROD decidedes he has had enough of NY
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    JSBE wrote:
    me? no way. i just like to pass along information, that's all.

    hope the yanks enjoy paying a-rod $30mil+ (not including luxury tax) in 2009-2011.

    I love how Boston fans hate him, but if that trade for Manny went thru, they'd all be slobbing his knob
  • Solat13
    Solat13 Posts: 6,996
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    I love how Boston fans hate him, but if that trade for Manny went thru, they'd all be slobbing his knob

    Well, we'd have the guys who finished 1,2, and 4 in the MVP voting this year. You'd have to admit a lineup of Ortiz, A Rod and Ordonez would be freaking scary.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    Solat13 wrote:
    Well, we'd have the guys who finished 1,2, and 4 in the MVP voting this year. You'd have to admit a lineup of Ortiz, A Rod and Ordonez would be freaking scary.

    i'd be scared of that. ortiz and ramirez is scary enough.
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  • Solat13
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    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    i'd be scared of that. ortiz and ramirez is scary enough.

    Yeah, people always forget the 2nd part of that trade was essentially Nomar to the White Sox for Mags.
    - Busted down the pretext
    - 8/28/98
    - 9/2/00
    - 4/28/03, 5/3/03, 7/3/03, 7/5/03, 7/6/03, 7/9/03, 7/11/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03
    - 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
    - 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
    - 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
    - 8/2/07, 8/5/07
    - 6/19/08, 6/20/08, 6/22/08, 6/24/08, 6/25/08, 6/27/08, 6/28/08, 6/30/08, 7/1/08
    - 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 9/21/09, 9/22/09, 10/27/09, 10/28/09, 10/30/09, 10/31/09
    - 5/15/10, 5/17/10, 5/18/10, 5/20/10, 5/21/10, 10/23/10, 10/24/10
    - 9/11/11, 9/12/11
    - 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    yeah, who knows what would have happened over the last 4 years if that deal had gone down
  • xavier mcdaniel
    xavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,435
    so essentially we traded hawkins for vizcaino. vizcaino just signed for two years with the rockies.
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  • Fighting Hellfish
    Fighting Hellfish Posts: 3,175
    I guess I'd rather have Viz for two years over Hawkins for 1, with the money being essentially the same. I think the only good thing you can say about the Hawkins signing is that it's just for 1 year. I hope some of the AAA kids are ready to step up for a relief role, or else The Yankees are in trouble with Farnsworth and Hawkins. Spring training should be fun. We'll see Horne, Jackson, Ohlendorf and a whole heap of others auditioning for gigs in the bullpen, which we almost never get as Yankee fans
  • BetterManningNYG
    BetterManningNYG Posts: 777
    JSBE wrote:
    hope the yanks enjoy paying a-rod $30mil+ (not including luxury tax) in 2009-2011.

    i'm not entirely sure how it works with new stadiums, but i'm under the impression that the yankees don't have to pay the luxury tax during those years.

    if that's true, it would explain the front-loaded contract.

    it wouldn't explain the ten years, but that's a different issue...
  • BetterManningNYG
    BetterManningNYG Posts: 777
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    so essentially we traded hawkins for vizcaino. vizcaino just signed for two years with the rockies.

    got a sandwich pick out of it too.

    of course, they could have kept darrell rasner on the roster if they hadn't signed hawkins. i'd take rasner over hawkins. i'd certainly take rasner over bruney (who was retained for 2008).

    i'm not saying that rasner is a great pitcher, but i expected him to eat a lot of those innings that hughes, kennedy, and joba wouldn't be able to throw.

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