so will torre get canned ?? and i agree jeter stunk it up just as bad as wang ,so now i just put money on the INDIANS i could never root for the red sox fuck that .......
he better get fired ,, its over ,,,he sucks time to move on
the mets fans are satisfied that their rivals lose ,,its like they won something if the others lose
bad way to view things,, ya gotta win 1 bro ....
shit even the sux won a ring lol
the florida marlins have 2 lol
Yes, but since our team can't fucking win anything, we must find pleasure and some sense of satisfaction somehow. I know it's fucked up, but you're right, I kinda felt like I won something last night ..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
he better get fired ,, its over ,,,he sucks time to move on
but see this is the other side of the mentality you spoke of earlier. Yankee fans feel that it's their God given right to be in the World Series every fucking year. 13 years of consecutive postseason, 6 world series, 4 rings, and yet still not enough? Fire Torre? This is why the Yankees are hated along with their spoiled fans..I'd be happy with one fucking ring in my lifetime..
'I want to hurry home to you
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
but see this is the other side of the mentality you spoke of earlier. Yankee fans feel that it's their God given right to be in the World Series every fucking year. 13 years of consecutive postseason, 6 world series, 4 rings, and yet still not enough? Fire Torre? This is why the Yankees are hated along with their spoiled fans..I'd be happy with one fucking ring in my lifetime..
see what happens when u root for a teamthat loses all the time??
u are happy winning one/// why? u should always want to win thats what its all about
and yes torre has been overrated from the beginning
he just sits there and his decisions suck
mussina deserved a shot last night
3-0 in sept
and if somebody told him he has to pitch wang,,then he really needs to go , because a real manager would say screw u its my team i make the call
THE YANKEES, LOSE, THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES LOSE!
pitching finally caught up with you. cant win every game 10-8 like you did the last 50 or so.
Sox in 6
Fire Torre? h aha ha ha ha hah aha ha! get rid of the one winner you ahve on the team? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! the rest are losers....ha ha ha ha ha. 13 years in a row, 4 ws and fired? ha ha ha ha! he doesnt fucking play. fire cashman...
ha ha ha ha!
All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
he better get fired ,, its over ,,,he sucks time to move on
i can't name another that's better though go ahead name the one ,but i do agree it's time for new blood ......but sucks is not the correct word for torre , he has nothing but class ........13yrs in a row to make the playoffs 4 rings that is a hell of a resume he will be unemployed for about a week .......
see what happens when u root for a teamthat loses all the time??
u are happy winning one/// why? u should always want to win thats what its all about
and yes torre has been overrated from the beginning
he just sits there and his decisions suck
mussina deserved a shot last night
3-0 in sept
and if somebody told him he has to pitch wang,,then he really needs to go , because a real manager would say screw u its my team i make the call
I'm told there was some debate among the Yankee high command about starting Chien-Ming Wang last night. According to team sources, Joe Torre had wanted to start Mike Mussina while the rest of hierarchy, citing Moose's recent postseason flops and his second-half slump this season, were concerned about entrusting him with the season in a do-or-die game.
Torre, on the other hand, had concerns about pitching Wang on three days' rest. Before the game last night, the manager said, Wang's record at home (2.75 ERA, second-best in the AL, 21 wins at Yankee Stadium over the past two seasons) was "what tipped the scales."
As for the short rest, Torre conceded: "With the fact he's a sinkerballer, sometimes being a little tired isn't all that bad."
Ultimately, however, that wasn't the case and Torre got his way, removing Wang for Mussina nine batters into the game, with the bases loaded and nobody out in the second, after it was clear the 19-game winner had nothing. Meanwhile, there was no such debate on the Indians' side about resisting the temptation to "go for the kill" by pitching staff ace C.C. Sabathia on three days' last night instead of junkballing No.4 starter Paul Byrd. According to Tribe manager Eric Wedge, it was never even discussed.
"(Byrd) won 15 games for us and we wouldn't be here without him," Wedge said, adding: "Guys pitching on three days' rest generally don't do that well and he threw five hard innings (in Game 1). I'm not going to put anyone in harm's way."
THE YANKEES, LOSE, THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES LOSE!
pitching finally caught up with you. cant win every game 10-8 like you did the last 50 or so.
Sox in 6
Fire Torre? h aha ha ha ha hah aha ha! get rid of the one winner you ahve on the team? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! the rest are losers....ha ha ha ha ha. 13 years in a row, 4 ws and fired? ha ha ha ha! he doesnt fucking play. fire cashman...
i can't name another that's better though go ahead name the one ,but i do agree it's time for new blood ......but sucks is not the correct word for torre , he has nothing but class ........13yrs in a row to make the playoffs 4 rings that is a hell of a resume he will be unemployed for about a week .......
he stinks ,, i didnt say he wasnt classy ,,i just said his managing is overrated
I hope all the Yankee fans realize that Roger Clemens is a thief and just stole Steinbrenner's money. He shouldn't have come out of retirement. He looked so bad in Sunday's game is was laughable.
im not a baseball guru ,,so i dont know who is out there to choose from
but i would stay inside the organization and give giradi a shot
JOE GIRARDI.
Mattingly would lead to a 80's like slump for few years. They need an agressive manager who will let the young guys lead. If there's any constant with the Yanks losing the past few years its that they had no emotion and heart. Girardi won't stand for that.
PJ - 36
EV - 5
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JOE GIRARDI.
Mattingly would lead to a 80's like slump for few years. They need an agressive manager who will let the young guys lead. If there's any constant with the Yanks losing the past few years its that they had no emotion and heart. Girardi won't stand for that.
i would agree
give it a shot ..shit he was manager of the year on a horrible marlins team
if it doesnt work,,try again
Honestly, why would anyone want that job? If you were even considered for it, you would be qualified for any managing job in MLB, so why would you want that? Even if you win the World Series a couple times, they will still kick you to the curb. You have to win EVERY year in order to keep people happy, which isn't realistic. I'd much rather manage in Chicago, Philly, LA or even for the Mets where if you win a title you are praised for it. But having the Boss and the media down your neck after 12 straight playoff seasons it too much.
Honestly, why would anyone want that job? If you were even considered for it, you would be qualified for any managing job in MLB, so why would you want that? Even if you win the World Series a couple times, they will still kick you to the curb. You have to win EVERY year in order to keep people happy, which isn't realistic. I'd much rather manage in Chicago, Philly, LA or even for the Mets where if you win a title you are praised for it. But having the Boss and the media down your neck after 12 straight playoff seasons it too much.
I'm sure, but he's been fucking awful in October in recent years..
Anyway, I feel great today..The Yanks got spanked around like the little bitches that they are, and the Phills were swept ..
aaawww
you musta been like my poor roomamte
his piece of shit team held it down all yr..ALL YEAR LONG! and lost it in the end!
HAHAHAHAHHA
and he had to deal with me for 4 games SCREAMING, saying FUCK the INDIANS tWERE IN THE PLAYOFFS, I WANT ANOTHER RING!
I can understand where youre coming from... ur luckier tho
u didnt have to deal with the shit my poor DIEHARD met fan roomate
all he kept saying is that shoulda been my mets..HAHAHAHAHHA suckers!
next yr the mets are gonna be worse anyways
and hey Champ..when u have 26 rings, all the history and Im not gonna state the obvious cause non yankee fans know more it seems about the team than us diehards...u better believ its a some kinda God given right...either that or if there is a God there is NO DENYING who HE ..or SHE roots for..c'mon now
go vote on espn on how much yall hate the yankees so we can win in another category
It feels good to be the no.1 target, always
its like someone said tho b4..when u win so much all the time its hard to stay motivated every yr and its also expected in NY..comes witht the territory
we need to relite the fire and come back and win another 4 in 6 yrs so we can be hated some more
Aah, fuck it, I’m just gonna go home, turn on the fuckin’ TV...
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
************************************
JOE GIRARDI.
Mattingly would lead to a 80's like slump for few years. They need an agressive manager who will let the young guys lead. If there's any constant with the Yanks losing the past few years its that they had no emotion and heart. Girardi won't stand for that.
its GONNA be Girardi
hes too familiar with most of the faces in the dugout already so the transition will be much easier. Besides I think hes the only one that can motivate them and someone else like torre they would play hard for. The Marlins fucked up on that
Aah, fuck it, I’m just gonna go home, turn on the fuckin’ TV...
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
************************************
I hope all the Yankee fans realize that Roger Clemens is a thief and just stole Steinbrenner's money. He shouldn't have come out of retirement. He looked so bad in Sunday's game is was laughable.
True.
....only reason why I think Roger was worth it. Actually 2 reasons.
But the most important was the Yanks had some young future stars that got to spend a season with one of the best pitchers and competitors of all time.
Having Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, etc etc be around Clemens for a year as basically a player coach was priceless.
Clemens also provided at least somewhat of a firery spark and aggressiveness that the team had negative off. I beleive without Clemens attitude, aura, and knowledge this 07 team would not have made the playoffs.
PJ - 36
EV - 5
(**Letterman'02, Irving Plaza, Storytellers, Beacon, ACL, Spectrum 3&4, Bridge School '10**)
"Constant recoil,..sometimes life don't leave you alone."
Let's connect on twitter - @Jeffgorra
True.
....only reason why I think Roger was worth it. Actually 2 reasons.
But the most important was the Yanks had some young future stars that got to spend a season with one of the best pitchers and competitors of all time.
Having Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, etc etc be around Clemens for a year as basically a player coach was priceless.
Clemens also provided at least somewhat of a firery spark and aggressiveness that the team had negative off. I beleive without Clemens attitude, aura, and knowledge this 07 team would not have made the playoffs.
i would just add that with out AROD the yanks don't even sniff the playoffs .....
If Georgie fires Torre, he is finally 100% senile.
The man is a winner. When I, a Red Sox fan, think of the Yankees, the first thing that comes to mind is how much I hate them, and then Joe Torre. The man is all class. His guys are Posada, Rivera, Jeter, Pettitte. All class individuals.
He just handles things well. Shit, you and I know to bring Jaba in the 8th and Rivera in the 9th. We know how to play lefty righty matchups. Thats not his skill. Its keeping his team chugging along and not getting worried or excited. The fucking team was 15 games out a playoff spot with a couple months left and ran away with the wild card.
The guy knows when his pitchers are in trouble. That is his #1 skill if you ask me. He sees them getting in trouble and pulls them before teams can break a game open or make it close again.
That said, fire the fucker. No sweat off my balls. Bring in Donnie Boy so we can win the division 20 years in a row.
All that's sacred, comes from youth....dedications, naive and true.
after reading the article (which i personally wouldn't call good, other than the fact that it went position by position)...
if a-rod wants to sign an extension, obviously the yanks will bring him back.
melky in a package for johan santana? yeah sure - if the package includes melky, and either joba, hughes, kennedy, etc. and another top prospect. and why would the twins want to trade away nathan when he's not a free agent, and why to the yankees? the twins may not be super rich, but they're not dumb (except for letting big papi get away).
unless the yanks can move melky or do a sign/trade with abreu (much like sheff) i don't see them signing either torii hunter or rowand - and even then you have a log jam at dh/lf/1st with damon, matsui, giambi, duncan, etc.
signing posada to a long term (3-4) deal is a huge risk since he's 36. if the yanks do, have fun paying a 39-40 year old catcher $12mil+ a season.
a starting rotation of pettitte, wang, hughes, joba and kennedy sounds great, but pettitte has to want to come back. and yeah, roger is not under contract, but mussina is at $11mil. the yanks will have to pay some $$$ to get rid of him. same with igawa and no one would take pavano unless it was for something dirt cheap like a nothing prospect and half his remaining salary.
they have to bring back rivera, but same thing applies to him as it does for posada. any long range contract for $10+ mil a year will bite them eventually where he is 39.
"Finally the deadweight must be cut. Some how some way the Yankees have to shed the bad karma and equally bad contracts of Carl Pavano, Kei Igawa, Jason Giambi, Mike Mussina and Kyle Farnsworth."
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he better get fired ,, its over ,,,he sucks time to move on
Yes, but since our team can't fucking win anything, we must find pleasure and some sense of satisfaction somehow. I know it's fucked up, but you're right, I kinda felt like I won something last night
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
but see this is the other side of the mentality you spoke of earlier. Yankee fans feel that it's their God given right to be in the World Series every fucking year. 13 years of consecutive postseason, 6 world series, 4 rings, and yet still not enough? Fire Torre? This is why the Yankees are hated along with their spoiled fans..I'd be happy with one fucking ring in my lifetime..
put on a slow, dumb show for you
and crack you up
so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
god I'm very, very frightening
and I'll overdo it'
Why would he get fired? His contract expired. You can't fire someone who isn't under contract.
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- 9/11/11, 9/12/11
- 10/18/13, 10/21/13, 10/22/13, 11/30/13, 12/4/13
see what happens when u root for a teamthat loses all the time??
u are happy winning one/// why? u should always want to win thats what its all about
and yes torre has been overrated from the beginning
he just sits there and his decisions suck
mussina deserved a shot last night
3-0 in sept
and if somebody told him he has to pitch wang,,then he really needs to go , because a real manager would say screw u its my team i make the call
let go , fired , non renewed whatever just outta town
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
hahaha!
ha!
C - YA LOSERS!
THE YANKEES, LOSE, THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE YANKEES LOSE!
pitching finally caught up with you. cant win every game 10-8 like you did the last 50 or so.
Sox in 6
Fire Torre? h aha ha ha ha hah aha ha! get rid of the one winner you ahve on the team? ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! the rest are losers....ha ha ha ha ha. 13 years in a row, 4 ws and fired? ha ha ha ha! he doesnt fucking play. fire cashman...
ha ha ha ha!
i can't name another that's better though go ahead name the one ,but i do agree it's time for new blood ......but sucks is not the correct word for torre , he has nothing but class ........13yrs in a row to make the playoffs 4 rings that is a hell of a resume he will be unemployed for about a week .......
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball/yankees/2007/10/09/2007-10-09_wang_on_3_days_rest_spurs_a_brass_debate.html
Wang on 3 days' rest spurs a brass debate
I'm told there was some debate among the Yankee high command about starting Chien-Ming Wang last night. According to team sources, Joe Torre had wanted to start Mike Mussina while the rest of hierarchy, citing Moose's recent postseason flops and his second-half slump this season, were concerned about entrusting him with the season in a do-or-die game.
Torre, on the other hand, had concerns about pitching Wang on three days' rest. Before the game last night, the manager said, Wang's record at home (2.75 ERA, second-best in the AL, 21 wins at Yankee Stadium over the past two seasons) was "what tipped the scales."
As for the short rest, Torre conceded: "With the fact he's a sinkerballer, sometimes being a little tired isn't all that bad."
Ultimately, however, that wasn't the case and Torre got his way, removing Wang for Mussina nine batters into the game, with the bases loaded and nobody out in the second, after it was clear the 19-game winner had nothing. Meanwhile, there was no such debate on the Indians' side about resisting the temptation to "go for the kill" by pitching staff ace C.C. Sabathia on three days' last night instead of junkballing No.4 starter Paul Byrd. According to Tribe manager Eric Wedge, it was never even discussed.
"(Byrd) won 15 games for us and we wouldn't be here without him," Wedge said, adding: "Guys pitching on three days' rest generally don't do that well and he threw five hard innings (in Game 1). I'm not going to put anyone in harm's way."
Bill Madden
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agreed fire cashman ,go INDIANS ........
he stinks ,, i didnt say he wasnt classy ,,i just said his managing is overrated
ok so name the one that could lead this team ......
Sammi: Wanna just break up?
def not
im not a baseball guru ,,so i dont know who is out there to choose from
but i would stay inside the organization and give giradi a shot
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Mattingly would lead to a 80's like slump for few years. They need an agressive manager who will let the young guys lead. If there's any constant with the Yanks losing the past few years its that they had no emotion and heart. Girardi won't stand for that.
EV - 5
(**Letterman'02, Irving Plaza, Storytellers, Beacon, ACL, Spectrum 3&4, Bridge School '10**)
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i would agree
give it a shot ..shit he was manager of the year on a horrible marlins team
if it doesnt work,,try again
lol why? nyc and its the best place to win
you musta been like my poor roomamte
his piece of shit team held it down all yr..ALL YEAR LONG! and lost it in the end!
HAHAHAHAHHA
and he had to deal with me for 4 games SCREAMING, saying FUCK the INDIANS tWERE IN THE PLAYOFFS, I WANT ANOTHER RING!
I can understand where youre coming from... ur luckier tho
u didnt have to deal with the shit my poor DIEHARD met fan roomate
all he kept saying is that shoulda been my mets..HAHAHAHAHHA suckers!
next yr the mets are gonna be worse anyways
and hey Champ..when u have 26 rings, all the history and Im not gonna state the obvious cause non yankee fans know more it seems about the team than us diehards...u better believ its a some kinda God given right...either that or if there is a God there is NO DENYING who HE ..or SHE roots for..c'mon now
go vote on espn on how much yall hate the yankees so we can win in another category
It feels good to be the no.1 target, always
its like someone said tho b4..when u win so much all the time its hard to stay motivated every yr and its also expected in NY..comes witht the territory
we need to relite the fire and come back and win another 4 in 6 yrs so we can be hated some more
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
************************************
hes too familiar with most of the faces in the dugout already so the transition will be much easier. Besides I think hes the only one that can motivate them and someone else like torre they would play hard for. The Marlins fucked up on that
Watch the nightly news and drink a beer...
Like I could even change the world, yeah right...
************************************
....only reason why I think Roger was worth it. Actually 2 reasons.
But the most important was the Yanks had some young future stars that got to spend a season with one of the best pitchers and competitors of all time.
Having Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, etc etc be around Clemens for a year as basically a player coach was priceless.
Clemens also provided at least somewhat of a firery spark and aggressiveness that the team had negative off. I beleive without Clemens attitude, aura, and knowledge this 07 team would not have made the playoffs.
EV - 5
(**Letterman'02, Irving Plaza, Storytellers, Beacon, ACL, Spectrum 3&4, Bridge School '10**)
"Constant recoil,..sometimes life don't leave you alone."
Let's connect on twitter - @Jeffgorra
Sizemore rounding third . . .
Here's Damon's throw to the plate . . .
Bounce bounce bounce bounce bounce
he was the only guy who showed up .....
i would just add that with out AROD the yanks don't even sniff the playoffs .....
The man is a winner. When I, a Red Sox fan, think of the Yankees, the first thing that comes to mind is how much I hate them, and then Joe Torre. The man is all class. His guys are Posada, Rivera, Jeter, Pettitte. All class individuals.
He just handles things well. Shit, you and I know to bring Jaba in the 8th and Rivera in the 9th. We know how to play lefty righty matchups. Thats not his skill. Its keeping his team chugging along and not getting worried or excited. The fucking team was 15 games out a playoff spot with a couple months left and ran away with the wild card.
The guy knows when his pitchers are in trouble. That is his #1 skill if you ask me. He sees them getting in trouble and pulls them before teams can break a game open or make it close again.
That said, fire the fucker. No sweat off my balls. Bring in Donnie Boy so we can win the division 20 years in a row.
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- 9/28/04, 9/29/04, 10/1/04, 10/2/04
- 9/11/05, 9/12/05, 9/13/05, 9/30/05, 10/1/05, 10/3/05
- 5/12/06, 5/13/06, 5/27/06, 5/28/06, 5/30/06, 6/1/06, 6/3/06, 6/23/06, 7/22/06, 7/23/06, 12/2/06, 12/9/06
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after reading the article (which i personally wouldn't call good, other than the fact that it went position by position)...
if a-rod wants to sign an extension, obviously the yanks will bring him back.
melky in a package for johan santana? yeah sure - if the package includes melky, and either joba, hughes, kennedy, etc. and another top prospect. and why would the twins want to trade away nathan when he's not a free agent, and why to the yankees? the twins may not be super rich, but they're not dumb (except for letting big papi get away).
unless the yanks can move melky or do a sign/trade with abreu (much like sheff) i don't see them signing either torii hunter or rowand - and even then you have a log jam at dh/lf/1st with damon, matsui, giambi, duncan, etc.
signing posada to a long term (3-4) deal is a huge risk since he's 36. if the yanks do, have fun paying a 39-40 year old catcher $12mil+ a season.
a starting rotation of pettitte, wang, hughes, joba and kennedy sounds great, but pettitte has to want to come back. and yeah, roger is not under contract, but mussina is at $11mil. the yanks will have to pay some $$$ to get rid of him. same with igawa and no one would take pavano unless it was for something dirt cheap like a nothing prospect and half his remaining salary.
they have to bring back rivera, but same thing applies to him as it does for posada. any long range contract for $10+ mil a year will bite them eventually where he is 39.
"Finally the deadweight must be cut. Some how some way the Yankees have to shed the bad karma and equally bad contracts of Carl Pavano, Kei Igawa, Jason Giambi, Mike Mussina and Kyle Farnsworth."
well duh and good luck in that brian cashman.
he's getting close to 100%, but torre's contract is up, so technically he wouldn't be fired.