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  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    Allie wrote:
    I like Sweeney
    but A-rod is a jinx
    he comes over and look what happens? That pesky matter with the Red Sox of which will shall not speak ;)

    and bupkus since-we lost to Anaheim, and Detroit! DETROIT! (sorry SS)

    Well, if this continues, and they go out quickly, and embarassingly again, then I really think it's time for Joe to go. I thought so last year too. I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope they peel off an 11 game winning streak starting tomorrow. But if somehow they end up losing this series ( I said a few days ago that this series would be the toughest series the Yanks would have this year, as I think the Indians are better than the Angels, Sox, and anyone from the NL) then Joe has to go. That would be 4 straight postseason embarrasments
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Well, if this continues, and they go out quickly, and embarassingly again, then I really think it's time for Joe to go. I thought so last year too. I hope it doesn't come to that. I hope they peel off an 11 game winning streak starting tomorrow. But if somehow they end up losing this series ( I said a few days ago that this series would be the toughest series the Yanks would have this year, as I think the Indians are better than the Angels, Sox, and anyone from the NL) then Joe has to go. That would be 4 straight postseason embarrasments

    i disagree. you said it yourself the indians are the best team in baseball. so losing to the best team is an embarrassment? that being said, i think they win this series.
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  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    i disagree. you said it yourself the indians are the best team in baseball. so losing to the best team is an embarrassment? that being said, i think they win this series.

    maybe not an embarrassment this year. but the last 3 years were, and this year would be a failure at least.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    maybe not an embarrassment this year. but the last 3 years were, and this year would be a failure at least.


    well they did win game one the last two years and we saw how that turned out. plus pettitte is on the mound tommorow.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    i disagree. you said it yourself the indians are the best team in baseball. so losing to the best team is an embarrassment? that being said, i think they win this series.
    You think who wins, the Yanks or the Indians?

    I think Joe is done regardless of the outcome of the playoffs. The man needs a nap

    What did you think of bringing in Ohlendorf tonight?
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  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    Just to clarify, by no means am I giving up on this series. I'm just pissed at Joe and the whole team right now. They need 2004 Pettitte tomorrow, the man who won 3 straight game 2's, all while down 0-1
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Allie wrote:
    You think who wins, the Yanks or the Indians?

    I think Joe is done regardless of the outcome of the playoffs. The man needs a nap

    What did you think of bringing in Ohlendorf tonight?


    whoops, i meant the yankees. that surprised me but i guess he was relying on the never seen him factor.

    why does torre need a nap? and who do you propose they bring in?
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    whoops, i meant the yankees. that surprised me but i guess he was relying on the never seen him factor.

    why does torre need a nap? and who do you propose they bring in?

    I guess but it backfired
    they were still close before they brought him in

    Joe always looks tired to me. I think he's wiped out

    who should they bring in? How about Mattingly or Girardi?
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Just to clarify, by no means am I giving up on this series. I'm just pissed at Joe and the whole team right now. They need 2004 Pettitte tomorrow, the man who won 3 straight game 2's, all while down 0-1

    it'll be ok

    I have faith in Andy.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Allie wrote:
    I guess but it backfired
    they were still close before they brought him in

    Joe always looks tired to me. I think he's wiped out

    who should they bring in? How about Mattingly or Girardi?

    maybe from afar he does, but i think he's truly enjoying himself, especially these last few months.

    actually i'd love to see torre manage through 2009 the first year of the new stadium and then turn it over to mattingly.
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  • AllieAllie Posts: 2,908
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    maybe from afar he does, but i think he's truly enjoying himself, especially these last few months.

    actually i'd love to see torre manage through 2009 the first year of the new stadium and then turn it over to mattingly.

    interesting..

    I think it depends on how things go and what George says

    if we do lose again in the 1st round that doesn't bode well
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Allie wrote:
    interesting..

    I think it depends on how things go and what George says

    if we do lose again in the 1st round that doesn't bode well

    it's more what his sons say and feel these days. but let's bring that aspect of the discussion back to the forefront if that does happen and hopefully it won't.

    i'm looking forward to seeing andy pettitte pitch another big game two and not having to stay up to midnight to watch it.
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    whoops, i meant the yankees. that surprised me but i guess he was relying on the never seen him factor.

    why does torre need a nap? and who do you propose they bring in?

    i liked bringing in Ohlendorf there, but I thought he needed a quicker hook. He shouldn't have pitched to Lofton. And that's not a second guess, I wanted him pulled after the double, that was 2 straight balls that were hit hard. When he hit Garko, I started screaming at the TV.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    i liked bringing in Ohlendorf there, but I thought he needed a quicker hook. He shouldn't have pitched to Lofton. And that's not a second guess, I wanted him pulled after the double, that was 2 straight balls that were hit hard. When he hit Garko, I started screaming at the TV.

    was anyone warming up at that point or scrambling to get loose? i was at the ranger game so i didn't see any of the game.
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Fighting HellfishFighting Hellfish Posts: 3,170
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    was anyone warming up at that point or scrambling to get loose? i was at the ranger game so i didn't see any of the game.

    they showed the bullpen from afar, and it looked like Veras was just starting to warm up.
  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    they showed the bullpen from afar, and it looked like Veras was just starting to warm up.

    oh, maybe phil hughes could have come in for that spot?
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • igotid88igotid88 Posts: 28,168
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    oh, maybe phil hughes could have come in for that spot?

    it would've been better if he came right after Wang.
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  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    torre is a sucka he stinks

    get rid of him like ive been saying
  • Champagne BreakfastChampagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    Must win tonight. Agreed on the weird calls by Torre...
    Why waste Hughes that many innings?? Why not put in Farnsworth?
    They keep playing that flat and we'll be packing up Sunday.

    Oh and...MATSUI is a DOG. Most overrrated, NEVER comes through with 2 outs, Never gets a big hit and is always in a position too.
    Bench his ass. Duncan at DH. At least he'll bring some fire and energy to the lineup.
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,353
    Fighting Hellfish wrote:
    Whoa, 2 guys in 5 years.

    That whole "I could win with a $200 mil payroll" argument is just about the stupidest argument in all of sports. It's not like the yankees start with a payroll of 0 and $200 million to spend, then cherrypick who they want on their team.

    As for the homegrown agrument, I'd say the Yankees have more homegrown players than 1/2 of the league off the top of my head.
    Yeah thats right the Yanks have only grabbed 2 guys from other organizations over the past 5 years.

    Of course that means we just don't mention Randy Johnson, Pavano, Clemens redux, Pettitte redux, Abreu, Lidle (R.I.P.), Matsui, Farnsworthless, Betemit, Vizcaino, Molina and a host of others.

    The $200Mil payroll allows the Yanks to cover up their mistakes like Unit and Pavano with band aids like Clemens, something most other teams can't do.
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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    Champagne Breakfast wrote:
    Oh and...MATSUI is a DOG. Most overrrated, NEVER comes through with 2 outs, Never gets a big hit and is always in a position too.
    Bench his ass. Duncan at DH. At least he'll bring some fire and energy to the lineup.


    gotta agree here.

    i dont know how many times i see him, bases loaded, 2 out situation.
    ( even if not 2 outs same outcome ) , he dogs it
    godzilla my ass.

    :rolleyes:
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  • rearviewmirorrearviewmiror Posts: 894
    Champagne Breakfast wrote:
    Must win tonight. Agreed on the weird calls by Torre...
    Why waste Hughes that many innings?? Why not put in Farnsworth?
    They keep playing that flat and we'll be packing up Sunday.

    Oh and...MATSUI is a DOG. Most overrrated, NEVER comes through with 2 outs, Never gets a big hit and is always in a position too.
    Bench his ass. Duncan at DH. At least he'll bring some fire and energy to the lineup.
    You never make the 03 series without Matsui. Big hit off of Pedro in your last decent run. Short memories in NYC.
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  • Bathgate66Bathgate66 Posts: 15,813
    rearviewmiror wrote:
    You never make the 03 series without Matsui. Big hit off of Pedro in your last decent run. Short memories in NYC.

    4 years ago

    too long to hold onto.
    we are in cleveland now
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  • rearviewmirorrearviewmiror Posts: 894
    True, but it can't be said he never got a big hit. He's older and perhaps your GM always holds onto older players too long.
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    in the last two postseasons matsui is 8-for-36 with one home run and four RBI

    in the 2004 and 2003 postseasons he was 39 for 115 with five home runs and 24 RBI.
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    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
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    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
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    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
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    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Champagne BreakfastChampagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    Ever since Matsui broke his wrist in 06 has NOT been the same.
    I really think Duncan needs to be the DH. Keep Damon in left. Duncan will at least provide energy and another right handed bat. Matsui is a hole.
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  • THCTHC Posts: 525
    they should have pulled Wang after 3. He's "sinker" was letter high through the strike zone. recipe for disaster...

    need a big Andy Pettite post season start tonight....
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  • Champagne BreakfastChampagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    Tonights lineup posted anywhere???
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  • xavier mcdanielxavier mcdaniel Somewhere in NYC Posts: 9,337
    not yet but i hope it includes giambi.
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    Chicago 2007
    Camden 2008 MSG 2008 MSG 2008 Hartford 2008.
    Seattle 2009 Seattle 2009 Philadelphia 2009,Philadelphia 2009 Philadelphia 2009
    Hartford 2010 MSG 2010 MSG 2010
    Toronto 2011,Toronto 2011
    Wrigley Field 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Brooklyn 2013 Philadelphia 2, 2013
    Philadelphia 1, 2016 Philadelphia 2 2016 New York 2016 New York 2016 Fenway 1, 2016
    Fenway 2, 2018
    MSG 2022
    St. Paul, 1, St. Paul 2 2023
    MSG 2024, MSG 2024
    Philadelphia 2024
    "I play good, hard-nosed basketball.
    Things happen in the game. Nothing you
    can do. I don't go and say,
    "I'm gonna beat this guy up."
  • Champagne BreakfastChampagne Breakfast Posts: 1,526
    xavier mcdaniel wrote:
    not yet but i hope it includes giambi.
    I'm thinking it will. Or maybe Duncan at DH???
    My ideal lineup for tonight would be:
    Damon lf
    Jeter ss
    Abreu rf
    Arod 3b
    Posada c
    Cano 2b
    Duncan dh
    Mentikeiwieic/Giambi 1b
    Melky cf

    *no matsui
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    EV - 5
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