my older brother wants to get engaged ..

NY PJ1

and he wants me to beat around the bush to his gf about what types of rings she likes,,, which i have no problem with

but dont u think she would tell me something other than what she likes in fear that i would get the ring for my gf ?

this is gonna be tricky

thoughts?

urbanhippie

Does she get on with your g/f?

Maybe she could sound her out for some ideas...Girls talk to each other, y'know what I mean?

MattCameronKicksButt

urbanhippie wrote:

Does she get on with your g/f?

Maybe she could sound her out for some ideas...Girls talk to each other, y'know what I mean?

That's better than what I was going to say. I was going to ask why he wouldn't just ask his girlfriend what she'd like but I guess that's not very romantic.

GreenTeaDisease

this is something I don't get- if you're gonna marry someone, shouldn't you have an idea what their tastes are?

If a guy doesn't know that I hate diamonds and hate gold and really don't like the idea of engagement rings, I don't think I'd want him proposing.

South of Seattle

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

this is something I don't get- if you're gonna marry someone, shouldn't you have an idea what their tastes are?

If a guy doesn't know that I hate diamonds and hate gold and really don't like the idea of engagement rings, I don't think I'd want him proposing.

Some girls say that, even if that's not what they mean. I mean if someone is going to ask to marry you, I'd think they'd buy you a ring even if you didn't want one. It's tradition

Brain of J.Lo

I think she's going to know something is up if you start talking engagement rings with her. (I'm just assuming that you're not the kind of guy who typically talks about women's jewelry. )

Have him put one of her friends on the case...

NY PJ1

urbanhippie wrote:

Does she get on with your g/f?

Maybe she could sound her out for some ideas...Girls talk to each other, y'know what I mean?

yea but i dont want my gf involved because she is kinda looking forone also ,,and im not ready

NY PJ1

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

this is something I don't get- if you're gonna marry someone, shouldn't you have an idea what their tastes are?

If a guy doesn't know that I hate diamonds and hate gold and really don't like the idea of engagement rings, I don't think I'd want him proposing.

he just wants an idea on what type of diamond cut

he knows what her tastes are ,,but not with engagement rings lol

GreenTeaDisease

South of Seattle wrote:

Some girls say that, even if that's not what they mean. I mean if someone is going to ask to marry you, I'd think they'd buy you a ring even if you didn't want one. It's tradition

it's actually not a tradition. it was a marketing campaign started by DeBeers in the 1940s. And diamonds are not a traditional wedding stone, saphires are.

I dunno, I wouldn't want to walk around with that. it's a symbol that the woman is "taken" but men don't have to wear something when they're engaged. I don't like that. Plus it's kinda tacky. Plus diamonds are kinda sketchy, who knows whose hands were cut off or what little kid was forced into slavery to get them? And they're way over-priced. diamonds aren't rare, the supply is just held back.

but anyways, I digress from the topic.

NY PJ1

Brain of J.Lo wrote:

I think she's going to know something is up if you start talking engagement rings with her. (I'm just assuming that you're not the kind of guy who typically talks about women's jewelry. )

Have him put one of her friends on the case...

hopefully not

i talk about personal issues with my bro's gf...were cool like that
so she wouldnt think its for her ...i dont think

dunkman

NY PJ1 wrote:

and he wants me to beat around the bush to his gf about what types of rings she likes,,, which i have no problem with

but dont u think she would tell me something other than what she likes in fear that i would get the ring for my gf ?

this is gonna be tricky

thoughts?

i'm more confused than Metsfan trying to lace his own shoes...

NY PJ1

dunkman wrote:

i'm more confused than Metsfan trying to lace his own shoes...

thats a surprise ,, carry on dunk

Heineken Helen

GreenTeaDisease wrote:

it's actually not a tradition. it was a marketing campaign started by DeBeers in the 1940s. And diamonds are not a traditional wedding stone, saphires are.

I dunno, I wouldn't want to walk around with that. it's a symbol that the woman is "taken" but men don't have to wear something when they're engaged. I don't like that. Plus it's kinda tacky. Plus diamonds are kinda sketchy, who knows whose hands were cut off or what little kid was forced into slavery to get them? And they're way over-priced. diamonds aren't rare, the supply is just held back.

but anyways, I digress from the topic.

It IS a tradition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claddagh_ring

and seriously... you're saying the man of your dreams gives you a diamond ring tomorrow and you'd give him that little speech? :eek: WOW!

Heineken Helen

Yeh, maybe the best way is to say you're looking for something for your gf... show her some kinda catalogue... you'll know within seconds which one she likes No woman could look at a catalogue of shiny stuff and not point out which one THEY'D like

dunkman

Heineken Helen wrote:

It IS a tradition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claddagh_ring

and seriously... you're saying the man of your dreams gives you a diamond ring tomorrow and you'd give him that little speech? :eek: WOW!

its actually even earlier than your stupid irish ring


The inception of the engagement ring itself can be tied to the Fourth Lateran Council presided over by Pope Innocent III in 1215

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

its actually even earlier than your stupid irish ring


The inception of the engagement ring itself can be tied to the Fourth Lateran Council presided over by Pope Innocent III in 1215

:rolleyes: blah blah blah... that was just to prove my point. Claddagh is about all I know about wedding ring histories... it was just to prove that they at least were around before 1940 :rolleyes:

GreenTeaDisease

Heineken Helen wrote:

It IS a tradition:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claddagh_ring

and seriously... you're saying the man of your dreams gives you a diamond ring tomorrow and you'd give him that little speech? :eek: WOW!

claddaghs are for weddings though are they not? Actually, if I got married, I'd really like to go to gallway to pick out nice claddagh wedding rings.

I know that wedding rings are tradition, but the diamond engagement ring as we do it today is not. See 'One Perfect Day' by Rebecca Mead.

Heineken Helen

ah I'm getting confused with wedding and engagement rings... I know nothing about engagement ring history.

I'm still not gonna say no if somebody gave me one (well depending on the question :eek: ) and yeh, I don't agree with a lot of the traditions... but the current 'tradition' has nothing to do with ownership.

TrixieCat

NY PJ1 wrote:

and he wants me to beat around the bush to his gf about what types of rings she likes,,, which i have no problem with

but dont u think she would tell me something other than what she likes in fear that i would get the ring for my gf ?

this is gonna be tricky

thoughts?

Tell him to go with the classic Tiffany setting, white gold.
http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?subCategoryid=1001

If she is a little more flashy, have the band set with channel stones.
http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?sku=22135856

Round stone is the most popular with the brides I work with.

He can always go to the diamond district, pick the diamond and then get it set.
For me, I would go for quality of the diamond of quantity of the carats.
Cut, color and clarity are the most important, imo.

Do NOT have Snoop Dogg find out. You are just looking for trouble.

dunkman

Heineken Helen wrote:

:rolleyes: blah blah blah... that was just to prove my point. Claddagh is about all I know about wedding ring histories... it was just to prove that they at least were around before 1940 :rolleyes:

well its diamond engagement rings that is the topic of discussion not pre-war silver wedding rings... keep up dear

edvedder913

he should ask one of her friends, not you, to find out that info.

my ex husband took one of my best friends w/him to look for the ring so he was sure i would like it. smart idea

Heineken Helen

Also if she already has jewellery it would say a lot as to what kinda jewellery she would like. Is it gold or white gold, understated, overstated, classy, tacky?

Most women would not turn away the classy white gold solitaire.

NY PJ1

plans in action,, my head is spinnig she is rattling things off to me lol

her opinion , she likes round because u can do more with it when u get a wedding band

but she likes emerald with more stones around the main one

i think she likes emerald better

its tough becuae my gf is very tiny where as bro's gf is alittle more full especially in the fingers

so this is crazy lol


and yes trix,,thats alll im thinking about wait till we get the call from hawaii that he did it and my gf hears that will be fun

NY PJ1

edvedder913 wrote:

he should ask one of her friends, not you, to find out that info.

my ex husband took one of my best friends w/him to look for the ring so he was sure i would like it. smart idea

yea but u girls chit chat to each other so hes gotta go w/ his blood....me lol

Heineken Helen

NY PJ1 wrote:

plans in action,, my head is spinnig she is rattling things off to me lol

her opinion , she likes round because u can do more with it when u get a wedding band

but she likes emerald with more stones around the main one

i think she likes emerald better

its tough becuae my gf is very tiny where as bro's gf is alittle more full especially in the fingers

so this is crazy lol


and yes trix,,thats alll im thinking about wait till we get the call from hawaii that he did it and my gf hears that will be fun

your brothers girlfriend told you all that? :eek: that's impressive!

NY PJ1

Heineken Helen wrote:

your brothers girlfriend told you all that? :eek: that's impressive!

the best is she is going crazy right now looking at a million different things,,,little does she know its for her

Heineken Helen

NY PJ1 wrote:

the best is she is going crazy right now looking at a million different things,,,little does she know its for her

you said it was for your gf? I told ya that showing her pictures of them would be enough who said women are complicated?

TrixieCat

So this?
http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?sku=18965755

I prefer round.
And I like the channel set around the band.

NY PJ1

Heineken Helen wrote:

you said it was for your gf? I told ya that showing her pictures of them would be enough who said women are complicated?

no no its for my brothers gf,,he asked me to make believe it was for my gf to get her opinion on what she likes

The Champ

So I got my girl something like this: http://www.zales.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2675413&cp=2071133.2135901&fbx=0&cp=2071133&fbn=Stone+Shape%7CPrincess&f=PAD%2FRing+Style%2FSolitaire&f=PAD%2FStone+Shape%2FPrincess&fbc=1&categoryId=2135901&parentPage=search&searchId=22524955954

She's not flashy, so I knew she wouldn't be comfortable with a huge obnoxious rock. From a previous conversation regarding her mom's ring, I found out that she likes the princess cut. Also figured the white gold would go better with her olive complexion as opposed to yellow (okay my sister concluded that)...Finally, it helps to have a sister and/or a chick help the dude pick one out ..

NY PJ1

TrixieCat wrote:

So this?
http://www.tiffany.com/Engagement/Item.aspx?sku=18965755

I prefer round.
And I like the channel set around the band.

i guess something like that with a bigger band ? but yes something like that


another thing is my bro has an emerald cut diamond worth about $12,000
in a safe so he can really take that and add a setting and a few more diamonds
i think that would be best but he's crazy