patriots are a bunch of CHEATERS !!!

g under p

NY PJ1 wrote:

nah hunt its not even close,, these bums were filming it
baseball it with ur eyes,,no video involved

I think you're starting to love or becoming more intrigued with football over hockey now.

Peace

my2hands

i still love how some folks dont think knowing the other teams defensive play provides an advantage

or that the only defense new englnd fans can come up with is "we all know other teams are doing it"

:rolleyes:

bostonlou

Poncier wrote:

From what I've been able to gather, Belichick's interpreatation (or excuse) is he thought you couldn't film and use the film during that particular game. His claim is it was gonna be for study for the next matchup.

Which is what's funny about what all the Jets fans and others are saying about how the film helped the Pats beat the Jets...Mangina had the tape seized at the end of the first half, Belichick and staff never saw it. The filming done on Sunday had nothing to do with the events on the field at the Meadowlands, yet so many are saying the Pats knew what was coming thats why they won. The Jets got their asses kicked, without help from the videotape.

I LIKE IT!!!! BB IS STILL A GENIUS!!!

unless they have film of him relaying signals


I feel so much better now... fuck all you haters... it was scouting... not cheating!!

my2hands wrote:

remember belichick wouldnt shake mangini's hand last year after the game?

i think we now have that whole thing figured out.

December 16th... can you imagine the crowd around that handshake

so stupid... hate the fuckin media

The Champ

bostonlou wrote:

i would say no... it was one aspect of planning for a game and executing

i don't know that anyone can say how big of a role it played

we're playing a tough san diego team this week...

if we smoke them... then it won't matter

if they smoke us or win at all ... then it will become a bigger story

But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..

bostonlou

my2hands wrote:

i still love how some folks dont think knowing the other teams defensive play provides an advantage

or that the only defense new englnd fans can come up with is "we all know other teams are doing it"

:rolleyes:

who says it doesn't provide an advantage?

and it's not a defense that everyone is doing it... it's just a fact

when we go 16-0... that will be the defense

as well as the Pats were only doing it as scouting... scouting is cheating?

NY PJ1

The Champ wrote:

But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..

these pats fools dont realize this

ReeenkRoink

The Champ wrote:

But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..

The pats never saw the tape, it was taken before Halftime so I think it had zero Impact during that game.

NY PJ1

g under p wrote:

I think you're starting to love or becoming more intrigued with football over hockey now.

Peace

not at all but i do read about this because i hate the team and city as u know,,so i wanna see their asses ripped

Poncier

The Champ wrote:

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Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that?

But since Mangini had the tape seized at the end of the first half, that blows your theory out of the water.

g under p

bostonlou wrote:

It is wrong. I'm not arguing that.

But for the commish to send a letter to all teams to not do it? Well then it sounds like a widespread issue. Like everyone was doing it.

As to why the Pats were so arrogant to ignore that letter. Well I don't know. That sounds stupid.


But for people to say that the 3 SuperBowl wins are now tainted. That's just stupid.

I can see the point that if you knew what was coming that it would give you an advantage. But I highly doubt that only the Patriots were the ones trying to steal signs. Like in baseball.

Yeah what's happening here is a picture is being painted that the Patriots have been doing this video taping from or before their first championship. They would like ALL 3 Super Bowl Championship trophies returned and would like to see if the Patriots can win a RING or beat the J E T S without taping them.

The Patriots will get their punishment and rightly so, though they're not the only ones doing but LET"S SEE WHAT THEY WILL DO.

Why don't we.

Peace

Poncier

NY PJ1 wrote:

these pats fools dont realize this

And some "jets fools" don't pay attention to the facts that the Pats never saw the tape.

The Champ

Poncier wrote:

But since Mangini had the tape seized at the end of the first half, that blows your theory out of the water.

Still a dirty fucking cheater, but I hope it makes you feel better that they only cheated in the first half of this particular game. They have been warned specifically in prior games as well..

bostonlou

The Champ wrote:

But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..

they are better than ever... did you see moss burn 4 guys? that was comical... i actually laughed out loud

and yes they were always close games... but what if the opponents were also stealing signs at the time? then it was a level playing field

and you can't prove the pats were doing it... and i can't prove the opponents were doing it... so all we can do is go to the record book... and I still see 3 Ws on the last sunday of the year


How about our Offensive line is really good? they didn't have the tape to go over... so how can you adjust when you have no data? I will say I was shocked how much time Brady had... it sure did look odd

and as for our defense performing well... I don't think anyones said we're stealing offensive signals... yet

we'll see sunday night what happens... although the chargers are much better than the jets... i still expect a pats W

Poncier

The Champ wrote:

Still a dirty fucking cheater, but I hope it makes you feel better that they only cheated in the first half of this particular game. They have been warned specifically in prior games as well..

Again, they didn't see the tape period.

So did they break the rule...yes, obviously.

Did said offense contribute to your beloved Jets being annihilated on Sunday, no.

NY PJ1

The Champ wrote:

Still a dirty fucking cheater, but I hope it makes you feel better that they only cheated in the first half of this particular game. They have been warned specifically in prior games as well..

they having been watching these tapes for years ,, no doubt about it

def wasnt a 1 time thing,, belladick didnt just come up w/ this idea

mister foootball genius my arse

bostonlou

Poncier wrote:

And some "jets fools" don't pay attention to the facts that the Pats never saw the tape.

facts don't seem to matter to some people

g under p

NY PJ1 wrote:

not at all but i do read about this because i hate the team and city as u know,,so i wanna see their asses ripped

Ahhh we've gotten to the kruck of the matter and like said before if the Patriots were at the bottom of the barrell none of this would be an issue. You and your J E T S will have an oppertunity to redeem themselves.

Good luck the J E T S are desparately gonna need it.

Peace

bostonlou

Poncier wrote:

Again, they didn't see the tape period.

So did they break the rule...yes, obviously.

Did said offense contribute to your beloved Jets being annihilated on Sunday, no.

i don't think they broke a rule

the rule was no videotaping of signals for use during a game

this was scouting

The Champ

Poncier wrote:

And some "jets fools" don't pay attention to the facts that the Pats never saw the tape.

And all the fucking wins that came down to a gay field goal are now being questioned....long history of this specific team doing this as well..isn't it also widely known that the Pats motto is 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough?"

Poncier

NY PJ1 wrote:

they having been watching these tapes for years ,, no doubt about it

def wasnt a 1 time thing,, belladick didnt just come up w/ this idea

mister foootball genius my arse

No the word is that this technique was developed by one of his protege's who was a low level assistant a few years back...Eric something, whiz kid they said...last name was italian...Mangioni or Mangiosi, wait Mangini thats the guy's name. Wonder what became of him.