And the thing is say they lose a 3rd and a 5th round pick, does it really hurt them that much, because they have 2 first round picks because of the Deion Branch trade.
From what I'm hearing, it is unlikely that the league would take away a 1st or 2nd round pick, because the players' union would be up in arms because they would be losing a future union member. Because any picks taken away would not be given to another team.
i think the biggest issue isn't that the Pats did this, is that they were caught and warned last year. Doing it again was in defiance of the NFLs warning. That is why the punishment will be severe. The arrogance to do it in the NFL's face after being warned is what makes it the big issue it has become.
I'm not a pats fan...(a jets fan actually...) and i think that is crazy talk. how does filming def. co-ordinators...2 yrs. after your last Superbowl win...taint the wins you've had YEARS before...
“Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
-Big Fish
I'm not a pats fan...(a jets fan actually...) and i think that is crazy talk. how does filming def. co-ordinators...2 yrs. after your last Superbowl win...taint the wins you've had YEARS before...
they have been doing this since bellichick got to the pats .......
I'm not a pats fan...(a jets fan actually...) and i think that is crazy talk. how does filming def. co-ordinators...2 yrs. after your last Superbowl win...taint the wins you've had YEARS before...
maybe they have been doing it for years?? ya ever think of that
teams they have played in big playoff games are wondering out loud now
i doubt he just started this last year
willing to bet he has been doing it for years, which is bogus
if u film a game and watch it fine
but that dope pats worker was just filming their coaches
straight up and down
they have been doing this since bellichick got to the pats .......
there is absolutely no proof of this.
the only known incidents are last year at the packers...and this year at the jets.
nothing from 4 years ago...
and if you are soo blatently obvious w/ your play calling that all a team has to do is film what you are doing...and by half time..they have all your def. singnals figured out...then that's your own damn fault.
not that i think the pats should have been doing this...but people are making some BIG leaps w/ this....
“Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
-Big Fish
of course they have tapes of every teamin the league
So doesn't every team in the league. If you don't think so....then you don't know a whole hell of a lot. (I still think it was stupid to be so blatant though. Subtly, Bill.....subtly)
"I don't believe in PJ fans but I believe there is something, not too sure what." - Thoughts_Arrive
the only known incidents are last year at the packers...and this year at the jets.
nothing from 4 years ago...
and if you are soo blatently obvious w/ your play calling that all a team has to do is film what you are doing...and by half time..they have all your def. singnals figured out...then that's your own damn fault.
not that i think the pats should have been doing this...but people are making some BIG leaps w/ this....
again he bellichick has been doing this for years and if you are so oblivious to it tha's fine but it's a known fact that he has been doing this for a long time .......
So doesn't every team in the league. If you don't think so....then you don't know a whole hell of a lot. (I still think it was stupid to be so blatant though. Subtly, Bill.....subtly)
let it go danimal ... everyone hates the pats... and they'll hate them more when they go 19-0
it's obvious these clowns are just trying to be annoying and focusing on specific parts of this problem
again he bellichick has been doing this for years and if you are so oblivious to it tha's fine but it's a known fact that he has been doing this for a long time .......
since we're making up "known facts"
it's a known fact everyone has been doing it... now what?
So doesn't every team in the league. If you don't think so....then you don't know a whole hell of a lot. (I still think it was stupid to be so blatant though. Subtly, Bill.....subtly)
every team has an employeE stand next to the opposing team and film the sideline and not the game
again he bellichick has been doing this for years and if you are so oblivious to it tha's fine but it's a known fact that he has been doing this for a long time .......
nfl coaching history
SEASON
TEAM POSITION
1975
Baltimore
COLTS Special Assistant to the Head Coach
(Defense and Special Teams)
1976-77 Detroit
LIONS 1976: Offensive Assistant & Tight Ends Coach
1977: Receivers Coach & Special Teams Assistant
1978
Denver
BRONCOS Asst Special Teams Coach & Asst to the Defensive Coordinator
1979-90 New York
GIANTS 1979-1980: Special Teams Coach/Defensive Assistant
1981-1982: Special Teams/Defensive Asst/Linebackers Coach
1983-1984: Linebackers Coach/began to coordinate defense
1985-1988: Defensive Coordinator
1989-1990: Defensive Coordinator/Secondary Coach
1991-95 Cleveland
BROWNS Head Coach
1996
New England
PATRIOTS Assistant Head Coach/Secondary Coach
1997-99 New York
JETS Assistant Head Coach/Secondary Coach
2000- New England
PATRIOTS Head Coach
HAS HE BEEN DOING IT ALL THESE YEARS? ALL OF THEM. INCLUDING LOSING SEASON'S W/ CLEVELAND AND ALL THOSE YEARS W/ THE GIANTS AND SOME W/ THE JETS????
ALL THOSE YEARS??? SEEMS LIKE HE DEF. WAS RIGHT?...LOL
“Kept in a small bowl, the goldfish will remain small. With more space, the fish can grow double, triple, or quadruple its size.”
-Big Fish
nfl coaching history
SEASON
TEAM POSITION
1975
Baltimore
COLTS Special Assistant to the Head Coach
(Defense and Special Teams)
1976-77 Detroit
LIONS 1976: Offensive Assistant & Tight Ends Coach
1977: Receivers Coach & Special Teams Assistant
1978
Denver
BRONCOS Asst Special Teams Coach & Asst to the Defensive Coordinator
1979-90 New York
GIANTS 1979-1980: Special Teams Coach/Defensive Assistant
1981-1982: Special Teams/Defensive Asst/Linebackers Coach
1983-1984: Linebackers Coach/began to coordinate defense
1985-1988: Defensive Coordinator
1989-1990: Defensive Coordinator/Secondary Coach
1991-95 Cleveland
BROWNS Head Coach
1996
New England
PATRIOTS Assistant Head Coach/Secondary Coach
1997-99 New York
JETS Assistant Head Coach/Secondary Coach
2000- New England
PATRIOTS Head Coach
HAS HE BEEN DOING IT ALL THESE YEARS? ALL OF THEM. INCLUDING LOSING SEASON'S W/ CLEVELAND AND ALL THOSE YEARS W/ THE GIANTS AND SOME W/ THE JETS????
ALL THOSE YEARS??? SEEMS LIKE HE DEF. WAS RIGHT?...LOL
Comments
dont be surprised if they do .... cheaters
tainted love
i think everybody but pats fans will agree
I'm not a pats fan...(a jets fan actually...) and i think that is crazy talk. how does filming def. co-ordinators...2 yrs. after your last Superbowl win...taint the wins you've had YEARS before...
-Big Fish
they have been doing this since bellichick got to the pats .......
maybe they have been doing it for years?? ya ever think of that
teams they have played in big playoff games are wondering out loud now
i doubt he just started this last year
willing to bet he has been doing it for years, which is bogus
if u film a game and watch it fine
but that dope pats worker was just filming their coaches
straight up and down
of course they have tapes of every teamin the league
there is absolutely no proof of this.
the only known incidents are last year at the packers...and this year at the jets.
nothing from 4 years ago...
and if you are soo blatently obvious w/ your play calling that all a team has to do is film what you are doing...and by half time..they have all your def. singnals figured out...then that's your own damn fault.
not that i think the pats should have been doing this...but people are making some BIG leaps w/ this....
-Big Fish
cheaters ....will bump this just to get the boston patsies irked .......he he he
So doesn't every team in the league. If you don't think so....then you don't know a whole hell of a lot. (I still think it was stupid to be so blatant though. Subtly, Bill.....subtly)
again he bellichick has been doing this for years and if you are so oblivious to it tha's fine but it's a known fact that he has been doing this for a long time .......
let it go danimal ... everyone hates the pats... and they'll hate them more when they go 19-0
it's obvious these clowns are just trying to be annoying and focusing on specific parts of this problem
there's no way they can be this dumb
since we're making up "known facts"
it's a known fact everyone has been doing it... now what?
o yea a cheater thread is going up every week for sure
every team has an employeE stand next to the opposing team and film the sideline and not the game
ARE U FUCKIN NUTS????
hey sunshine
they got caught... so no more cheating
a new thread will definitely be appropriate
great idea!!
exactly i hate the boston teams not anyone from here in particular so let's not get nasty ok will keep this a civilized discussion ,cheaters ...
civilized is perfect!!!
dummy
you allways make me laugh i agree ......right next to you on this ......
boston will spinn this more than a black circle the fact remains the same the pats got caught simple and to the point , cheaters ......
i can only imagine what that clown is saying lol
i love seeing nothing instead of complete bullshit
nfl coaching history
SEASON
TEAM POSITION
1975
Baltimore
COLTS Special Assistant to the Head Coach
(Defense and Special Teams)
1976-77 Detroit
LIONS 1976: Offensive Assistant & Tight Ends Coach
1977: Receivers Coach & Special Teams Assistant
1978
Denver
BRONCOS Asst Special Teams Coach & Asst to the Defensive Coordinator
1979-90 New York
GIANTS 1979-1980: Special Teams Coach/Defensive Assistant
1981-1982: Special Teams/Defensive Asst/Linebackers Coach
1983-1984: Linebackers Coach/began to coordinate defense
1985-1988: Defensive Coordinator
1989-1990: Defensive Coordinator/Secondary Coach
1991-95 Cleveland
BROWNS Head Coach
1996
New England
PATRIOTS Assistant Head Coach/Secondary Coach
1997-99 New York
JETS Assistant Head Coach/Secondary Coach
2000- New England
PATRIOTS Head Coach
HAS HE BEEN DOING IT ALL THESE YEARS? ALL OF THEM. INCLUDING LOSING SEASON'S W/ CLEVELAND AND ALL THOSE YEARS W/ THE GIANTS AND SOME W/ THE JETS????
ALL THOSE YEARS??? SEEMS LIKE HE DEF. WAS RIGHT?...LOL
-Big Fish
at least the qb is a yankee fan lol thats gotta eat them up
he plays his game there then comes back to a real city quick i love it
def the head coaching years
no one is spinning anything
they cheated
they got caught
i like the argument that they were just scouting the other side for later usage... but that's just bullshit
but no one can prove what happened at any other point than last sunday
and since there's also rumblings that a lot of teams have done the same thing... i don't think it's that bad of an offense
and since you and NYPJ and just 69ing each other and not listening to reason... i'm done with this thread ...
if the pats lose sunday which one of you is going to start a "the pats lost because they couldn't cheat" thread? because that's a great idea
oh
and
cheaters
lets be honest... i'm too entertaing for you to ignore
i thought maybe you would have grown up and we could move on from your hissy fit yesterday
but i guess not
oh well