patriots are a bunch of CHEATERS !!!

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  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    nah hunt its not even close,, these bums were filming it
    baseball it with ur eyes,,no video involved

    I think you're starting to love or becoming more intrigued with football over hockey now.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i still love how some folks dont think knowing the other teams defensive play provides an advantage

    or that the only defense new englnd fans can come up with is "we all know other teams are doing it"

    :rolleyes:
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    Poncier wrote:
    From what I've been able to gather, Belichick's interpreatation (or excuse) is he thought you couldn't film and use the film during that particular game. His claim is it was gonna be for study for the next matchup.

    Which is what's funny about what all the Jets fans and others are saying about how the film helped the Pats beat the Jets...Mangina had the tape seized at the end of the first half, Belichick and staff never saw it. The filming done on Sunday had nothing to do with the events on the field at the Meadowlands, yet so many are saying the Pats knew what was coming thats why they won. The Jets got their asses kicked, without help from the videotape.


    I LIKE IT!!!! BB IS STILL A GENIUS!!!

    unless they have film of him relaying signals ;)


    I feel so much better now... fuck all you haters... it was scouting... not cheating!! ;)


    my2hands wrote:
    remember belichick wouldnt shake mangini's hand last year after the game?

    i think we now have that whole thing figured out.


    December 16th... can you imagine the crowd around that handshake

    so stupid... hate the fuckin media
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    bostonlou wrote:
    i would say no... it was one aspect of planning for a game and executing

    i don't know that anyone can say how big of a role it played

    we're playing a tough san diego team this week...

    if we smoke them... then it won't matter

    if they smoke us or win at all ... then it will become a bigger story

    But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

    Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    my2hands wrote:
    i still love how some folks dont think knowing the other teams defensive play provides an advantage

    or that the only defense new englnd fans can come up with is "we all know other teams are doing it"

    :rolleyes:

    who says it doesn't provide an advantage?

    and it's not a defense that everyone is doing it... it's just a fact

    when we go 16-0... that will be the defense

    as well as the Pats were only doing it as scouting... scouting is cheating?
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    The Champ wrote:
    But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

    Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..


    these pats fools dont realize this
  • The Champ wrote:
    But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

    Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..

    The pats never saw the tape, it was taken before Halftime so I think it had zero Impact during that game.
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    g under p wrote:
    I think you're starting to love or becoming more intrigued with football over hockey now.

    Peace


    not at all but i do read about this because i hate the team and city as u know,,so i wanna see their asses ripped
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    The Champ wrote:
    ..

    Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that?
    But since Mangini had the tape seized at the end of the first half, that blows your theory out of the water.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    bostonlou wrote:
    It is wrong. I'm not arguing that.

    But for the commish to send a letter to all teams to not do it? Well then it sounds like a widespread issue. Like everyone was doing it.

    As to why the Pats were so arrogant to ignore that letter. Well I don't know. That sounds stupid.


    But for people to say that the 3 SuperBowl wins are now tainted. That's just stupid.

    I can see the point that if you knew what was coming that it would give you an advantage. But I highly doubt that only the Patriots were the ones trying to steal signs. Like in baseball.

    Yeah what's happening here is a picture is being painted that the Patriots have been doing this video taping from or before their first championship. They would like ALL 3 Super Bowl Championship trophies returned and would like to see if the Patriots can win a RING or beat the J E T S without taping them.

    The Patriots will get their punishment and rightly so, though they're not the only ones doing but LET"S SEE WHAT THEY WILL DO.

    Why don't we.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    these pats fools dont realize this
    And some "jets fools" don't pay attention to the facts that the Pats never saw the tape.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Poncier wrote:
    But since Mangini had the tape seized at the end of the first half, that blows your theory out of the water.

    Still a dirty fucking cheater, but I hope it makes you feel better that they only cheated in the first half of this particular game. They have been warned specifically in prior games as well..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    The Champ wrote:
    But to be fair, with the off season additions, the Pats are way fucking better than ever!! Can't compare the future success with the past, and how much the cheating was a factor in winning..Not like they killed their opponents, it usually came down to a field goal, no? Cheating may have been the only way to win those close games and superbowls..

    Brady didn't get touched once, why is that? Is it because they knew exactly when and who was blitzing? Must have made a ton of adjustments during halftime..think about that, going over the tape and shit, how fucking sick is that? While Brady had all day in the pocket due to cheating, Chad was getting the shit kicked out of him every fucking play, and now will likely miss considerable time....I don't know, but I would think this was a bit more than one little aspect of the game..fuck..

    they are better than ever... did you see moss burn 4 guys? that was comical... i actually laughed out loud ;)

    and yes they were always close games... but what if the opponents were also stealing signs at the time? then it was a level playing field

    and you can't prove the pats were doing it... and i can't prove the opponents were doing it... so all we can do is go to the record book... and I still see 3 Ws on the last sunday of the year :)


    How about our Offensive line is really good? they didn't have the tape to go over... so how can you adjust when you have no data? I will say I was shocked how much time Brady had... it sure did look odd

    and as for our defense performing well... I don't think anyones said we're stealing offensive signals... yet ;)

    we'll see sunday night what happens... although the chargers are much better than the jets... i still expect a pats W
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    The Champ wrote:
    Still a dirty fucking cheater, but I hope it makes you feel better that they only cheated in the first half of this particular game. They have been warned specifically in prior games as well..
    Again, they didn't see the tape period.

    So did they break the rule...yes, obviously.

    Did said offense contribute to your beloved Jets being annihilated on Sunday, no.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    The Champ wrote:
    Still a dirty fucking cheater, but I hope it makes you feel better that they only cheated in the first half of this particular game. They have been warned specifically in prior games as well..


    they having been watching these tapes for years ,, no doubt about it

    def wasnt a 1 time thing,, belladick didnt just come up w/ this idea

    mister foootball genius my arse
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    Poncier wrote:
    And some "jets fools" don't pay attention to the facts that the Pats never saw the tape.


    facts don't seem to matter to some people
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    not at all but i do read about this because i hate the team and city as u know,,so i wanna see their asses ripped

    Ahhh we've gotten to the kruck of the matter and like said before if the Patriots were at the bottom of the barrell none of this would be an issue. You and your J E T S will have an oppertunity to redeem themselves.

    Good luck the J E T S are desparately gonna need it.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    Poncier wrote:
    Again, they didn't see the tape period.

    So did they break the rule...yes, obviously.

    Did said offense contribute to your beloved Jets being annihilated on Sunday, no.


    i don't think they broke a rule

    the rule was no videotaping of signals for use during a game

    this was scouting
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Poncier wrote:
    And some "jets fools" don't pay attention to the facts that the Pats never saw the tape.

    And all the fucking wins that came down to a gay field goal are now being questioned....long history of this specific team doing this as well..isn't it also widely known that the Pats motto is 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough?"
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    they having been watching these tapes for years ,, no doubt about it

    def wasnt a 1 time thing,, belladick didnt just come up w/ this idea

    mister foootball genius my arse
    No the word is that this technique was developed by one of his protege's who was a low level assistant a few years back...Eric something, whiz kid they said...last name was italian...Mangioni or Mangiosi, wait Mangini thats the guy's name. Wonder what became of him.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,925
    The Champ wrote:
    And all the fucking wins that came down to a gay field goal are now being questioned....long history of this specific team doing this as well..isn't it also widely known that the Pats motto is 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough?"
    Mangini didn't institute the video taping practice until the 2004 season, so only the Eagles victory can be questioned. And they were up 10 and back doored to 3 in that one.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    bostonlou wrote:
    they are better than ever... did you see moss burn 4 guys? that was comical... i actually laughed out loud ;)

    and yes they were always close games... but what if the opponents were also stealing signs at the time? then it was a level playing field

    and you can't prove the pats were doing it... and i can't prove the opponents were doing it... so all we can do is go to the record book... and I still see 3 Ws on the last sunday of the year :)


    How about our Offensive line is really good? they didn't have the tape to go over... so how can you adjust when you have no data? I will say I was shocked how much time Brady had... it sure did look odd

    and as for our defense performing well... I don't think anyones said we're stealing offensive signals... yet ;)

    we'll see sunday night what happens... although the chargers are much better than the jets... i still expect a pats W

    I'm not saying the Jets would have won, but you'd be pissed too if the shoe were on the other foot. I can't prove that other teams are not doing it, but the Pats have been warned specifically!! They were accused of this very thing vs the Packers..those are the facts..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    The Champ wrote:
    And all the fucking wins that came down to a gay field goal are now being questioned....long history of this specific team doing this as well..isn't it also widely known that the Pats motto is 'if you're not cheating, you're not trying hard enough?"

    it's amazing how you continue to argue this point without admitting that you have no proof that it was being done

    nor do you have proof that both sides weren't doing it

    i get it... people hate the Pats...


    umm... I don't think LDT is the one thinking up our motto?

    he can't even get himself an original nickname

    i hope he gets fuckin LIT UP on sunday

    sucks that he actually has talent too ;)


    i look forward to him trying to dance on the patriot at midfield if they win... because you know one of those clowns will try it... probably merriman the fuckin juice head

    although they'd have to win first...
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    The Champ wrote:
    I'm not saying the Jets would have won, but you'd be pissed too if the shoe were on the other foot. I can't prove that other teams are not doing it, but the Pats have been warned specifically!! They were accused of this very thing vs the Packers..those are the facts..

    when were the Pats warned specifically? Were you in on that conference call? ;) but seriously... you've said this multiple times... i'll i've heard about was the whole league being warned

    things reported in the media aren't necessarily "facts"
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • bostonloubostonlou Posts: 2,849
    Poncier wrote:
    Mangini didn't institute the video taping practice until the 2004 season, so only the Eagles victory can be questioned. And they were up 10 and back doored to 3 in that one.


    there you go... speak in their language

    they'll understand back door action ;)
    Don't Believe Everything You Think
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    NY PJ1 wrote:
    not at all but i do read about this because i hate the team and city as u know,,so i wanna see their asses ripped

    Interesting comment in that you can use the word "hate" over a football team in a sport you've said you're oblivious to. As much as I love Boston and all is sports and as much as I will root against NYC area teams I would never ever use the word "hate".

    This is only sports they're are good people and bad people in both cities. "Hate" is such a strong word is it possible for you to come up with something else? I gather you true feelings on the city of Boston of will never ever change though.

    Good luck to you, have a nice day, rumour has it it's possible.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Again, the Jets have never been accused of this specifically (that we know of), the Pats have and been warned..they continued to cheat and got caught..those are the facts..end of story..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    g under p wrote:
    Ahhh we've gotten to the kruck of the matter and like said before if the Patriots were at the bottom of the barrell none of this would be an issue. You and your J E T S will have an oppertunity to redeem themselves.

    Good luck the J E T S are desparately gonna need it.

    Peace


    yes it would because good or bad i dont like the team

    hopefully they will redeem by taking out brady's knee
    that would be awesome

    o wait he is a yanks fan so maybe somebody else
  • The ChampThe Champ Posts: 4,063
    Lou, the Pats were accused of doing this against the Packers..It's been documented and the team was warned. Perhaps this is what prompted the warning for the entire league? I don't know..
    'I want to hurry home to you
    put on a slow, dumb show for you
    and crack you up
    so you can put a blue ribbon on my brain
    god I'm very, very frightening
    and I'll overdo it'
  • NY PJ1NY PJ1 Posts: 9,533
    The Champ wrote:
    Again, the Jets have never been accused of this specifically (that we know of), the Pats have and been warned..they continued to cheat and got caught..those are the facts..end of story..


    case closed guilty sentence hearing to follow
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