patriots are a bunch of CHEATERS !!!

Solat13

my2hands wrote:

so your tellinge me, that tom brady knowing what exact defense the jets are running doesnt help? puhlease

I'm assuming you're talking about the second half being affected by this because it was 14-7 at halftime. Well let's go to the play by play here.

Pats run back opening kickoff for a TD for 108 yards. Yep, they knew the Jets were going to kickoff there.

Next drive 6 yard gain, 13, and then the Moss catch where he beats three defenders.

Next drive Pats gain 5,6,13, 2, 7, 9, 8, 2, 1, 12, 9, 4, 5, 5, 1, 1, and 0 on a FG drive. I guess knowing the Jets defense there helped the Pats with all those big plays on that drive.

Final Pats drive when they get the ball at midfield. They gain 3, 8, 1, 9, get 15 yards on a facemask penalty, 3, 13, 0, and then 1 for the td. Damn another drive full of big plays.

Before we jump on the media bandwagon here clamoring about the Pats cheating and having an unfair advantage, maybe we should look at the facts. The Pats are a better team than the Jets and with or without the gamesmanship by both Belichek and Mangini they would have won.

And you know for a fact I'm not a Patriots apologist, I'm an Eagles and Steelers fan and no team has caused me more misery the last decade than the Pats, but face it there's a reason they've won 3 Super Bowls. They're just an extremely good football team.

bostonlou

Solat13 wrote:

I'm assuming you're talking about the second half being affected by this because it was 14-7 at halftime. Well let's go to the play by play here.

Pats run back opening kickoff for a TD for 108 yards. Yep, they knew the Jets were going to kickoff there.

Next drive 6 yard gain, 13, and then the Moss catch where he beats three defenders.

Next drive Pats gain 5,6,13, 2, 7, 9, 8, 2, 1, 12, 9, 4, 5, 5, 1, 1, and 0 on a FG drive. I guess knowing the Jets defense there helped the Pats with all those big plays on that drive.

Final Pats drive when they get the ball at midfield. They gain 3, 8, 1, 9, get 15 yards on a facemask penalty, 3, 13, 0, and then 1 for the td. Damn another drive full of big plays.

Before we jump on the media bandwagon here clamoring about the Pats cheating and having an unfair advantage, maybe we should look at the facts. The Pats are a better team than the Jets and with or without the gamesmanship by both Belichek and Mangini they would have won.

And you know for a fact I'm not a Patriots apologist, I'm an Eagles and Steelers fan and no team has caused me more misery the last decade than the Pats, but face it there's a reason they've won 3 Super Bowls. They're just an extremely good football team.

my boys wicked smaht

how about dem apples?

nowayimfaithfull

my2hands wrote:

wow, i have seen some dumb shit on here, and you think this is up there? :eek:

tell the ravens what plays your running, and you wont score. tell the colts what defense you are running, and they score 50.

that doesnt seem to dumb to me.

ps... lombardis packers would lose by 30 to the patriots or colts... 9 out of 10 times


and if it doesnt matter... then why closed pratices, top secret playbooks, masking signs, decoy signs, etc, etc? why would the NFL care if they are taping? why doesn't p.manning just yell out at the line to harrison "15 yard curl"? because that shit would get picked off, thats why


this is the NFL, not pop warner or high school. these are world premier athletes, tell 11 of them what you are going to run and it will not work, ever.

IMO, of course

Well for one peyton does yell the plays out
you must not be a football nut like some of these guys are. because a good qb yells it all the time just watch commercials

old school joe montana in his super highlights
black 59 razor, it just happens so quick and you catch a team off guard
peyton has a commercial floating around where he yells lousianna sould train, its telling harrison to line up with 3 other recievers and run a post while the other go flat
its a very big part of coaching
this rule is in equal comparison to the jets stealing coaches and getting draft picks, its an upper management thing.
brady also watches film all week, he knows when to read a blitz
when I heard the pats cheated I assumed they paid a ref off.

nowayimfaithfull

Solat13 wrote:

I'm assuming you're talking about the second half being affected by this because it was 14-7 at halftime. Well let's go to the play by play here.

Pats run back opening kickoff for a TD for 108 yards. Yep, they knew the Jets were going to kickoff there.

Next drive 6 yard gain, 13, and then the Moss catch where he beats three defenders.

Next drive Pats gain 5,6,13, 2, 7, 9, 8, 2, 1, 12, 9, 4, 5, 5, 1, 1, and 0 on a FG drive. I guess knowing the Jets defense there helped the Pats with all those big plays on that drive.

Final Pats drive when they get the ball at midfield. They gain 3, 8, 1, 9, get 15 yards on a facemask penalty, 3, 13, 0, and then 1 for the td. Damn another drive full of big plays.

Before we jump on the media bandwagon here clamoring about the Pats cheating and having an unfair advantage, maybe we should look at the facts. The Pats are a better team than the Jets and with or without the gamesmanship by both Belichek and Mangini they would have won.

And you know for a fact I'm not a Patriots apologist, I'm an Eagles and Steelers fan and no team has caused me more misery the last decade than the Pats, but face it there's a reason they've won 3 Super Bowls. They're just an extremely good football team.

Thats the word

its poor gamesmenship to be obvious they that they got caught, if they were les dramatic in their tactics which belichek is never, it wouldnt have been so obvious.

The Champ

No wonder everyone hates this fucking Bellichick asshole..the balls on this guy!! He was even warned last year about this shit, and he still has the balls to do this again, and against a person that knows first hand of the cheating?? Wow, genius defensive mind Bellichick eh..dirty fucking bastard is more like it..and his apology was fucking pathetic too..

bostonlou

The Champ wrote:

No wonder everyone hates this fucking Bellichick asshole..the balls on this guy!! He was even warned last year about this shit, and he still has the balls to do this again, and against a person that knows first hand of the cheating?? Wow, genius defensive mind Bellichick eh..dirty fucking bastard is more like it..and his apology was fucking pathetic too..

would you like to wager on the superbowl?

since we'll be at SUCH A DISADVANTAGE now?

my2hands

The Patriots were caught, RED HANDED, video taping the Jets defensive calls. This is against the rules. Period. They have been caught breaking the rules. Period. The NFL is going to take action. Period. This is not a conspiracy theory, they were caught with the fucking tape. Period. It is against the rules because it is an advantage. Period.

For anyone to excuse this is just foolish

For anyone to think it doesnt/didn't provide an advantage is just foolish, why else would they fucking do it?



so feel free to break down the play by play, it will not change the fact that they got caught cheating red handed, and that it CLEARLY gives/gave them an advantage.


seriously, it is just silly to think it is not a major advantage to know what the other team is calling :rolleyes:

my2hands

bostonlou wrote:

my boys wicked smaht

how about dem apples?

see above

brainofjb

bostonlou wrote:

like anyone gives a flying shit that your junkie ass doesn't like massachusetts (for a bunch of stupid reasons no less)

thought you didn't even follow football? so why start the thread?

i wish the NHL would end their stupid strike so you could have something to do

he also claims his hatred towards boston and ppl that live here has nothing to do with sports! LOL!!

GO PATS!!!

brainofjb

my2hands wrote:

The Patriots were caught, RED HANDED, video taping the Jets defensive calls. This is against the rules. Period. They have been caught breaking the rules. Period. The NFL is going to take action. Period. This is not a conspiracy theory, they were caught with the fucking tape. Period. It is against the rules because it is an advantage. Period.

For anyone to excuse this is just foolish

For anyone to think it doesnt/didn't provide an advantage is just foolish, why else would they fucking do it?



so feel free to break down the play by play, it will not change the fact that they got caught cheating red handed, and that it CLEARLY gives/gave them an advantage.


seriously, it is just silly to think it is not a major advantage to know what the other team is calling :rolleyes:

the ONLY difference with the Pats and other teams is that THEY got caught!
you have to be naive to think this doesnt go on
or that steroids dont go on in baseball, inside betting in basketball etc....

I dont agree with what they did .. dont get me wrong

bostonlou

my2hands wrote:

see above

there is no excuse

which is why i'm just throwing out any and all bullshit

Ledbetterman10

bostonlou wrote:

everyone is loving that this is the Patriots

yeah, because it's the team that's been the most dominant over the past 6 years. If it was the Raiders or Browns cheating, it'd just be laughable. but when the best team in the league is guilty of something like this. it makes you wonder if they've been doing anything else illegal to get an advantage. what else could they be guilty of? steroids? well I guess Rodney Harrison would make that one a 'yes.' bribing refs? poisoning the opponents locker room? who knows? I've seen the Dolphins walk out of the locker room in Gillette Stadium on more than one occasion clearly under the influence of something. who knows what that evil genius Belichick has them doing behind the scenes

g under p

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

yeah, because it's the team that's been the most dominant over the past 6 years. If it was the Raiders or Browns cheating, it'd just be laughable. but when the best team in the league is guilty of something like this. it makes you wonder if they've been doing anything else illegal to get an advantage. what else could they be guilty of? steroids? well I guess Rodney Harrison would make that one a 'yes.' bribing refs? poisoning the opponents locker room? who knows? I've seen the Dolphins walk out of the locker room in Gillette Stadium on more than one occasion clearly under the influence of something. who knows what that evil genius Belichick has them doing behind the scenes

You've hit the nail on the head and it's driven through the board.

Yes and it was against the beloved J E T S @ home. Again they have all the chance in the world when ever they play the Patriots @ Gillette Stadium. If they crush the Patriots bring back this thread and gloat till ya turn green.

Peace

ZFields

"Over everything else, why in God's name did we have to cheat to beat the Jets??? Couldn't we have saved the chicanery for the Chargers game when we actually needed it?"

Great Article....Bill Simmons is God
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070912

nfanel

ShreddieVedder10 wrote:

"Over everything else, why in God's name did we have to cheat to beat the Jets??? Couldn't we have saved the chicanery for the Chargers game when we actually needed it?"

Great Article....Bill Simmons is God
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070912

i love bill simmons.

bostonlou

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

yeah, because it's the team that's been the most dominant over the past 6 years. If it was the Raiders or Browns cheating, it'd just be laughable. but when the best team in the league is guilty of something like this. it makes you wonder if they've been doing anything else illegal to get an advantage. what else could they be guilty of? steroids? well I guess Rodney Harrison would make that one a 'yes.' bribing refs? poisoning the opponents locker room? who knows? I've seen the Dolphins walk out of the locker room in Gillette Stadium on more than one occasion clearly under the influence of something. who knows what that evil genius Belichick has them doing behind the scenes

i'd love for you to point out where rodney was busted for steriods

thanks

Ledbetterman10

bostonlou wrote:

i'd love for you to point out where rodney was busted for steriods

thanks

umm...okay:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2999994

bostonlou

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

umm...okay:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2999994

ok sherfuck holmes

still don't see any mention of STEROIDS

Ledbetterman10

bostonlou wrote:

ok sherfuck holmes

still don't see any mention of STEROIDS

it's all the same though

bostonlou

Ledbetterman10 wrote:

it's all the same though

actually it's not