The Beheading Story Gets Worse

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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    stu gee wrote:
    You dont know that though, you might act completely differently.

    I remember seeing a guy i didnt hang around with, but kinda knew, getting a kicking from a gang of guys and i decided i would try to help him. They let him go, he ran away and they beat the shite out me, dont know what that tells you lol. If he'd been really hurt or killed and id done nothing though, i think id have felt worse.


    I do. I know what I'd do. I'd shit myself. I'm willing to bet on it. Find me a crazed attacker down a dark alley with a diamond blade disk cutter whirring, and I can guarantee my reaction.
  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    I do. I know what I'd do. I'd shit myself. I'm willing to bet on it. Find me a crazed attacker down a dark alley with a diamond blade disk cutter whirring, and I can guarantee my reaction.

    Fair enough.

    I personally think the human mind, any human's mind, is too complex to accurately judge how it would react to any such situation.
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
  • spat
    spat Posts: 644
    just out of morbid curiosity i looked him up on myspace
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  • Vedderlution_Baby
    Vedderlution_Baby Posts: 2,535
    dunkman wrote:
    i dunno Fins... what about them guys who got together on Flight 93... and caused the plane to crash without it hitting its intended target?



    I think one of the main differences is that they were on a transportation device with no way of escape at all so they had the chance to sit and assess the situation around them. The people on the bus had a quick exit away from their attacker.
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    spat wrote:
    just out of morbid curiosity i looked him up on myspace
    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=108390479
    Wow. He was a little guy too, smaller than me. He seems like a normal young man and his life was cut short, so sad. :(
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    this conversation about "oh i wouldve tried to do something" is bullshit... have any of you been on a fuckin bus before?? the aisle is about 2 feet wide... theres no headroom... you have zero room to do much of anything let alone over power a crazed knife-wielding monster... everyone in this thread wouldve booked it for the door just like i wouldve... and anyone who tried to be a hero would just get hurt too if not killed
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    sgossard3 wrote:
    this conversation about "oh i wouldve tried to do something" is bullshit... have any of you been on a fuckin bus before?? the aisle is about 2 feet wide... theres no headroom... you have zero room to do much of anything let alone over power a crazed knife-wielding monster... everyone in this thread wouldve booked it for the door just like i wouldve... and anyone who tried to be a hero would just get hurt too if not killed

    You dont know that. Im not saying i would have been a hero, or anyone on that bus should have been a hero, all i basically said is that you cant possibly know how you'd react untill faced with the situation. In fact that's exactly what i said.
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    stu gee wrote:
    You dont know that. Im not saying i would have been a hero, or anyone on that bus should have been a hero, all i basically said is that you cant possibly know how you'd react untill faced with the situation. In fact that's exactly what i said.
    It's such a complex situation. same can be said about public security. after 9/11 airports and public places gotten tighter for awhile but then people argued about privacy and stuff. airport security are still tight but other public area loosen their security measures.

    i don't know, just wish sick stuff never happens.
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Funny how people freak about this, but people are massacred in Iraq and Afghanistan all the time and everyone is for the most part very calm about it.
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  • LONGRD
    LONGRD Posts: 6,036
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Funny how people freak about this, but people are massacred in Iraq and Afghanistan all the time and everyone is for the most part very calm about it.
    To be honest with you, it seems like a common like in the Middle East. It sucks to think that way but most people do think like that including myself. Somethings are harder to swallow when it's unexpected. And I'm not even sure how the residents near Winnipeg how they're dealing with it. It's hurts more when it's closer to home kinda deal. Sad to feel and think that way, but we all it.
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  • stu gee
    stu gee Posts: 1,174
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Funny how people freak about this, but people are massacred in Iraq and Afghanistan all the time and everyone is for the most part very calm about it.

    Its not funny in the slightest.

    Its because it is out of the ordinary here. Obviously people are going to take more notice when it happens closer to home, this is only natural. It is terrible that this happens anywhere, but the fact that people discuss it more when it is closer to home is really not difficult to undersand.
    People say im paranoid. Well, they dont say it, but i know that's what they are thinking.
  • down_ski
    down_ski Posts: 328
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Funny how people freak about this, but people are massacred in Iraq and Afghanistan all the time and everyone is for the most part very calm about it.

    People are slaughtered all over the world.

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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    What's with the quiet Asian psychopaths?
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    stickfig13 wrote:
    What's with the quiet Asian psychopaths?
    no kidding... my dad was just warning me about a police report for a Xi Zeing that goes to U of I with me... like the shooter from the NIU thing... electrical engineering student... he was threatening to kill people, went to an asylum, and hes already out... head up to everyone... seems like these people always slip through the cracks until something happens
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    sgossard3 wrote:
    no kidding... my dad was just warning me about a police report for a Xi Zeing that goes to U of I with me... like the shooter from the NIU thing... electrical engineering student... he was threatening to kill people, went to an asylum, and hes already out... head up to everyone... seems like these people always slip through the cracks until something happens

    It's not that they slip through the cracks. I have to believe that there are legal barriers to holding someone that hasn't commited a crime.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    stickfig13 wrote:
    It's not that they slip through the cracks. I have to believe that there are legal barriers to holding someone that hasn't commited a crime.
    yah its true... itd be like "minority report" or something to arrest them before hand... its sad though that theres not a way to help these people before its too late... sometimes i feel like theyre not properly diagnosed or medicated... its a hazard to society to have these timebombs walking around free
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  • stickfig13
    stickfig13 Posts: 1,532
    sgossard3 wrote:
    yah its true... itd be like "minority report" or something to arrest them before hand... its sad though that theres not a way to help these people before its too late... sometimes i feel like theyre not properly diagnosed or medicated... its a hazard to society to have these timebombs walking around free


    It's like fighting terrorism...

    It's hard to spot the guy who is serious about his threats.
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  • Kilgore_Trout
    Kilgore_Trout Posts: 7,334
    stickfig13 wrote:
    It's like fighting terrorism...

    It's hard to spot the guy who is serious about his threats.
    threats are one thing... any angsty goth teen can make a "hit list"... but i think there are more serious mental signs that can be looked for if you take the proper time and methods... youre right though... not alot that can be done... sad that you cant even trust falling asleep on a bus anymore... always reminds me of that quote from se7en:

    Ernest Hemingway once wrote, "The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part
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  • Medicated-Genius
    Medicated-Genius Posts: 359
    dunkman wrote:
    i dunno Fins... what about them guys who got together on Flight 93... and caused the plane to crash without it hitting its intended target?


    The people on flight 93 had time to think about it, and no means of escape. The flight or fight response is an instantaneous chemical and neurological reflex. The vast majority of people, and animals for that matter, in the grip of this reflex, will only fight if backed into a corner. If there's a means to escape, they will, and they are not even thinking about it. There's no room or time for thought or planning. One simply reacts, triggered by powerful catecholamines that spur the body into action. Blood supply is instantly increased to the muscles, the pupils dilate, the heart and breathing rate increases, digestion stops and you are moving before you realize it. A bit like walking along a bush track and encountering a snake, you react and move out of harms way before you have a chance to even think there's a snake in your path. I feel incredibly sorry for these people, that they witnessed this. I know just reading about it, it will stay with me for a long time, these poor people are in for a lifetime of what if's, not to mention the horror of what they saw revisting them for years to come. So sad.
  • Medicated-Genius
    Medicated-Genius Posts: 359
    dunkman wrote:
    i believe it did ;)


    edit... thats flight 77.. i said flight 93!! :)


    Oops, so did I!

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