The Beheading Story Gets Worse

Touchofgray16
Touchofgray16 Posts: 639
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
This is even more unbelievable

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/02/canada.bus.stabbing.ap/index.html
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  • HushBull
    HushBull Posts: 996
    Alien-robot-badger... it just gets freakier
    "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro"
  • edvedder913
    edvedder913 Posts: 1,810
    sick......
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    and how the shit is this not first degree!?
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    very strange... and every parents worst nightmare.
  • Smellyman2
    Smellyman2 Posts: 689
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    very strange... and every parents worst nightmare.

    I think that is anyone's worst nightmare
  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    Smellyman wrote:
    I think that is anyone's worst nightmare

    true. I realised it was a stupid thing to write as I was typing it.
  • mdigenakis
    mdigenakis Posts: 1,337
    Why didn't the passengers do something? They could've easily outnumbered this psycho.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    mdigenakis wrote:
    Why didn't the passengers do something? They could've easily outnumbered this psycho.
    Thats what I was thinking. Someone watched him be stabbed 40 times- how could you just watch it and not try to do something?
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    Bravery is overrated. You're on a tiny, cramped bus with a lunatic armed with a hunting knife. A psycho of over six feet has the strength of ten men. Unless you're Chuck Norris, get off the coach and make sure everybody else is out of harm's way. The victim was probably dead after the first few stabs. There's nothing to be done. Avoiding a worse bloodbath is the sensible option. I think the whole situation was handled excellently. There was one victim and the circumstances of his death/the treatment of his corpse are horrific, but that's it. There was one victim and no more. The perpetrator was barricaded in the bus and finally arrested by the authorities.


    Too many people play video games and think a gung ho attitude is commendable. If you've combat training and think you've the skills to handle the attacker, that's different. Go for it. But otherwise, you've no business risking making widows and orphans of loved ones.
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:
    Bravery is overrated. You're on a tiny, cramped bus with a lunatic armed with a hunting knife. A psycho of over six feet has the strength of ten men. Unless you're Chuck Norris, get off the coach and make sure everybody else is out of harm's way. The victim was probably dead after the first few stabs. There's nothing to be done. Avoiding a worse bloodbath is the sensible option. I think the whole situation was handled excellently. There was one victim and the circumstances of his death/the treatment of his corpse are horrific, but that's it. There was one victim and no more. The perpetrator was barricaded in the bus and finally arrested by the authorities.


    Too many people play video games and think a gung ho attitude is commendable. If you've combat training and think you've the skills to handle the attacker, that's different. Go for it. But otherwise, you've no business risking making widows and orphans of loved ones.

    When I think of it that way I am 6'3 over 200 lbs so I would be more willing to attack than most people. I am not a trained combatant but still work out a lot and feel I could have done something. The people on this bus probably thought the guy was a giant.
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  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    SVRDhand13 wrote:
    When I think of it that way I am 6'3 over 200 lbs so I would be more willing to attack than most people. I am not a trained combatant but still work out a lot and feel I could have done something. The people on this bus probably thought the guy was a giant.


    I'm 6'1" and 220 lbs, and I'd have run like the clappers.
  • tybird
    tybird Posts: 17,388
    I would have grabbed the fire extinguisher and given the dude a face full of ABC Powder.
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  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    singularity wrote:
    and how the shit is this not first degree!?


    This was my thought as well. Talk about aggravating circumstances. I am not an expert in Canadian criminal law, but this seems weird to me. Seems like murder 1 easy, unless of course the dude shows he is insane.
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  • comebackwoman
    comebackwoman Posts: 7,271
    mdigenakis wrote:
    Why didn't the passengers do something? They could've easily outnumbered this psycho.
    I think in this type of situation instinct takes over - fight/flight/freeze - whatever is gonna help you survive. What you want to do consciously might not be what you're able to do. This was just such a heinous murder . I think a lot of those people are gonna be overloaded with survivors guilt...in addition to the trauma of what they witnessed. This is just so sad...just unfathomable.
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  • meistereder
    meistereder Posts: 1,577
    comebackgirl wrote:
    I think in this type of situation instinct takes over - fight/flight/freeze - whatever is gonna help you survive. What you want to do consciously might not be what you're able to do. This was just such a heinous murder . I think a lot of those people are gonna be overloaded with survivors guilt...in addition to the trauma of what they witnessed. This is just so sad...just unfathomable.


    Also, I think chances are that before anyone realized what was happening, the victim had already been stabbed so many times he was not to be saved. I could be wrong.
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  • comebackwoman
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    meistereder wrote:
    Also, I think chances are that before anyone realized what was happening, the victim had already been stabbed so many times he was not to be saved. I could be wrong.
    You're probably right. Who would expect that something like this could happen? Probably by the time people even realized what was going on and the horror of it registered, he was probably dead. I really hope the victim didn't know what hit him and that the death was a quick one. I just cannot imagine the horror of having that happen to you - or having to witness it. So many victims here.
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  • elmer
    elmer Posts: 1,683
    A Greek guy has decapitated his girlfriend and taken her head for a stroll:



    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080803/tts-uk-greece-decapitation-bed299d.html
  • itsevobaby
    itsevobaby Posts: 1,809
    elmer wrote:
    A Greek guy has decapitated his girlfriend and taken her head for a stroll:



    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080803/tts-uk-greece-decapitation-bed299d.html
    lordy, what the fuck is going on?? i blame video games & marilyn manson
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  • MattCameronKicksButt
    MattCameronKicksButt Posts: 4,317
    elmer wrote:
    A Greek guy has decapitated his girlfriend and taken her head for a stroll:



    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080803/tts-uk-greece-decapitation-bed299d.html

    I often wonder why certain stories make it into the headlines and others don't?
  • FinsburyParkCarrots
    FinsburyParkCarrots Seattle, WA Posts: 12,223
    MattCameronKicksButt wrote:
    I often wonder why certain stories make it into the headlines and others don't?


    Geography. World news headlines in the USA and Canada usually involve issues relating to North American foreign policy. Anything else is irrelevant. Just compare and contrast VOA News with the BBC World Service and you'll see this is the way of global news reporting.

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