Tolerance

Juberoo

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Rushlimbo

Tolerance ends when those with a different view or stance are directly affected by them. Example -A man has the right to believe in God but if someone with a different perspective comes to this man's house and takes his bible then tolerance will be gone. If a man doesnt believe in God and another man tells him he must memorize the good book then this is beyond tolerance as well.

baraka

No tolerance for the intolerant, eh?

The following is just my opinion. It would be hypocritical and dishonest for any of us to say that we are tolerant of everything and everyone. We are all imperfect and have our faults. I think it becomes a problem when one wants to 'legislate' their beliefs. Let's just look at the gay marriage example. It is one thing to be uncomfortable by this, it is another thing to want to ban that option for others, simply because you don't agree it. Freedom for all or for none.......

Some of my favorite posters here hold beliefs I do not subscribe to, however, we learn from each other and either change the way we look at an issue or we become more confident in our stance. But sometimes the dialog gets ugly when we start to judge one another. Some words I try to live by (and it is very hard at times!)

See yourself in others.
Then whom can you hurt?
What harm can you do?

He who seeks happiness
By hurting those who seek happiness
Will never find happiness

Never speak harsh words
For they will rebound upon you.
Angry words hurt
And the hurt rebounds.

norm

i don't tolerate ignorance and hate.

Drowned Out

I'm curious what/who inspired this thread.

Brain of J.Lo

People who embrace tolerance DO tolerate viewpoints different from their own, but they shouldn't be expected embrace ideas that are diametrically opposed to tolerance.

lalalalaaaaaaaa

Supporting all trains of thought is different from embracing tolerance. I'm tolerant of most people who are pro-life or Christian, but that doesn't mean I should support them, and I don't. I fight them and their ideas. However, that doesn't mean I think they're intolerable and need to be rounded up and shot or something.

g under p

Michael Franti sings about TOLERANCE

Tolerance Michael Franti And Spearhead lyrics
Artist: Michael Franti And Spearhead

A child is born, and a mamma's torn
About the life that it's bound to live
A sun and moon and a modest home
Is all they asking the Lord to give
But politics and big events they never seem to notice the little guy
So make a plan or simply hold a hand but don't ever be a passer by

Tolerance or violence and the whole world go to war
Is one enough or is one too many
Before we say, "No More"
Could you ever love a pot of gold?
Could you ever love another lonely soul?
Could you ever find a love that was oceans wide?
Could you ever find love in another stranger's eyes?

Oh, give a little,
Tolerance, tolerance
We need you more and more
So lend a hand or simply hold a friend
That’s in need of a life support
Draw a picture, share a whisper
Anyway that you can rise above
And when the end is near who is goanna volunteer
To be the last one to die for love


Tolerance or violence and the whole world go to war
Is one enough or is one too many
Before we say, "No More"
no more, no more, no more, no more


Here's a video of him and his band Spearhead singing it live in Portland Oregon 10/14/06 Tolerance.

Peace

DriftingByTheStorm

Well,
When you start calling people who choose to exercise their constitutional & god given freedoms "scum" and the like,
you tend to arouse a a certain response, if you catch my drift.

You have shown repeatedly in the course of your recent posts that you yourself demonstrate an absolute lack of compassion and cary within your heart an extreme amount of hatred and animosity towards certain individuals that themselves do not conform to your view.

In other words,
calling drug users "scum" (which you will find no record of, since Kat had to delete it!) ... insinuating that people with addicitons are worthless, and being generally ignorant to the genetic predisposition that some people have towards such addictions ... all of that arouses a good bit of animosity in those of us that do practice compassion and forgiveness in a broader sense.

But i'm willing to throw all that out the window and be an equally intolerant bastard if i come across someone who themself demonstrates a fundamental lack of respect for human rights and the human condition.

Throwing people in jail, and castigating them as "scum" is not too open minded if you ask me.

And i can't believe your argument in this post suggests we have an "open mind" and respect for "racists" and "biggots".

I respect their right to have such a view, and i have compassion for the life experiences that brought them to that unfortunate POV, but i have an absolute LACK of compassion for that point of view itself.

Just as i have an absolute lack of compassion for YOUR point of view -- though not necessarily for you as a person.
Even though you have clearly demonstrated YOUR lack of compassion for a broad segment of society in general



OR

cutback wrote:

i don't tolerate ignorance and hate.

What (s)he said ! ! !

Brain of J.Lo

Saturnal wrote:

Supporting all trains of thought is different from embracing tolerance. I'm tolerant of most people who are pro-life or Christian, but that doesn't mean I should support them, and I don't. I fight them and their ideas. However, that doesn't mean I think they're intolerable and need to be rounded up and shot or something.

Good point. A tolerant person may disagree with someone, but still embrace them as a human being, for the sake of compassion.

norm

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

Well,
When you start calling people who choose to exercise their constitutional & god given freedoms "scum" and the like,
you tend to arouse a a certain response, if you catch my drift.

You have shown repeatedly in the course of your recent posts that you yourself demonstrate an absolute lack of compassion and cary within your heart an extreme amount of hatred and animosity towards certain individuals that themselves do not conform to your view.

In other words,
calling drug users "scum" (which you will find no record of, since Kat had to delete it!) ... insinuating that people with addicitons are worthless, and being generally ignorant to the genetic predisposition that some people have towards such addictions ... all of that arouses a good bit of animosity in those of us that do practice compassion and forgiveness in a broader sense.

But i'm willing to throw all that out the window and be an equally intolerant bastard if i come across someone who themself demonstrates a fundamental lack of respect for human rights and the human condition.

Throwing people in jail, and castigating them as "scum" is not too open minded if you ask me.

And i can't believe your argument in this post suggests we have an "open mind" and respect for "racists" and "biggots".

I respect their right to have such a view, and i have compassion for the life experiences that brought them to that unfortunate POV, but i have an absolute LACK of compassion for that point of view itself.

Just as i have an absolute lack of compassion for YOUR point of view -- though not necessarily for you as a person.
Even though you have clearly demonstrated YOUR lack of compassion for a broad segment of society in general



OR


What (s)he said ! ! !

he...:)......well said...i'm just into the brevity thing....;)

soulsinging

DriftingByTheStorm

I can't get over the blantant irony of the thread starter's forum title, "Soldier of Love"

pffft.
:rolleyes:

Deni

cutback wrote:

i don't tolerate ignorance and hate.

I will tolerate a lot, but this I won't tolerate either. And like the poster above cutback said... I also have no tolerance for intolerance...

I also don't tolerate stupidity very well. I admit that. lol

One of the things that I do find really funny though is when somebody who is KNOWN to be a bigot comes to tolerant people says, why wont you tolerate me and my views and expects them to say... oh I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was supposed to tolerate hate.

Brain of J.Lo

soulsinging wrote:

shit, i don't even dispute your right to be the nigger-hatin, faggot-loathin, narrow-minded piece of redneck trash you are. it's your life.

Geez, ss....why don't you go work for the ACLU, with all the rest of the dirty hippies. :rolleyes:

somebodyelsessky2020

if you can peacefully be any one of those without causing violence, then i'd be tolerant of it.

Austicman

Racists- Tolerate people who believe in equal rights for all. I don't think so.
Pro-Life- Are open to debate of pro choice. I'd like to see that.
Anti-Drug- I hear them screaming 'Zero Tolerance' through a haze of alcohol many a time. The biggest hipocrites of all.
Biggots and Fundamentalist's regardless of religion are intolerance kings so don't get me started on them.

There's no tolerating a person with no respect for opinion that differ from their's. Tolerating the fact that these people exsist is tolerance enough.

Now I have a question for you. How old are you? Are you a Pearl Jam fan?

jamtemplechains

every single person has biases and will be set in certain ways. it's not the same though to hate someone for pointlessly hating others as it is to hate someone for reasons they could never help.
people CHOOSE to hate, discriminate, harrass, and ridicule others. a black person is black because....they're black. a gay person is gay because it is unnatural to them to feel attraction for the opposite sex. a woman is a woman because she happens to have a vagina. it is unjust and ignorant to subscribe to generalizations that lead to immediately hating an entire group of people, 99.9999999% of whom you don't know and know nothing about, so i don't see what is equally unjust or ignorant about feeling a certain sense of frustration with these people for refusing to accept others for things that are part of that person's natural being.

wolfbear

I certainly have tolerance for anyone and everyone, except those who try to "enlighten" me by "forcing" their beliefs on me. I will listen to anyones point of view. It's when someone starts to condemn me that I have a problem and lose interest. I have no problem with them so why should they have a problem with me?

Juberoo

Juberoo

wolfbear wrote:

I certainly have tolerance for anyone and everyone, except those who try to "enlighten" me by "forcing" their beliefs on me. I will listen to anyones point of view. It's when someone starts to condemn me that I have a problem and lose interest. I have no problem with them so why should they have a problem with me?

so isn't it forcing beliefs on those you consider "intolerant" by fighting to get laws changed to incorporate what they don't believe in into the mainstream.....for arguments sake, say homosexual marriage. If it becomes legal and an anti-gay marriage boss has a homosexual employee, he then is forced to pay for this marriage by means of benefits. His right to believe differently is then compromised. Why does that not matter?