What's the fucking deal with Palestinians?

NMyTree

swallowedwords wrote:

Of course, there are Jewish and Christian extremists who think they are superior to others, but Islamic extremism is the big problem today. In almost every Muslim country, non-Muslims are discriminated against and treated like 2nd class citizens. Arabs are actually part of the Israeli government. I'd love to see a Jew or a Christian try to become part of the Iranian government.

Oh I agree.

And I have said the same thing many times, here.

But that doesn't justify Israel's actions, whatsoever. They've also passed up every opportunity to find a peaceful solution by illegally expanding their presence into Palestine territory and attacking innocent palestine civilians.

Israel is bullying their way into expansion.

Rhinocerous Surprise

swallowedwords wrote:

Because you don't get those 72 Virgins by shooting a gun.

And Jews don't get into heaven by remorselessly killing innocent civilians.

chopitdown

_FiveAgainstOne_ wrote:

i hate posts like these... it's as if the palestinians are doing just as much destruction as the israeli's are... when clearly that is not the case. you can't make a single post that will make israel seem more of a victim than palestine because it isn't.

i don't think either side is a victim, b/c a victim implies no guilt. don't say what my post implies. My post says both sides are at fault and both sides have fanatics...one is not more right or wrong based on body counts.

swallowedwords

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So you think Muslims don't want to live a long happy life with their families and children and watch them grow up like everyone else does?

That's about as ignorant of reality as it can get.....perhaps more

I'm sure many do, and then there are those who celebrate when their child blows themselves to bits.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

And Jews don't get into heaven by remorselessly killing innocent civilians.

It's one of those special look the other way heavens...

swallowedwords

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

And Jews don't get into heaven by remorselessly killing innocent civilians.

Israelis don't target innocent civilians, while Arab suicide bombers do. Big difference.

Rhinocerous Surprise

swallowedwords wrote:

Israelis don't target innocent civilians, while Arab suicide bombers do. Big difference.

No, they just displace them, ignore their human rights, and wait for them to turn radical. Then they're fair game, right?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

swallowedwords wrote:

I'm sure many do, and then there are those who celebrate when their child blows themselves to bits.

Yeah , and their parents and relatives are probably already dead at that point as well.

Would you care to post your statistics on that? or is this more like Zionist folklore told over late night campfires?

swallowedwords

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Yeah , and their parents and relatives are probably already dead at that point as well.

Would you care to post your statistics on that? or is this more like Zionist folklore told over late night campfires?

No, their parents usually receive a financial reward when their kids blow themselves up. I remember good old Saddam Hussein used to give families of suicide bombers $25k for their troubles.

Yes, everything I've said is Zionist folklore that I overheard at Zionist Summer Camp.

swallowedwords

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

No, they just displace them, ignore their human rights, and wait for them to turn radical. Then they're fair game, right?

They become radical when their parents and schools teach them that Jews and Christians are the enemy at age 5 or so.

Rhinocerous Surprise

swallowedwords wrote:

They become radical when their parents and schools teach them that Jews and Christians are the enemy at age 5 or so.

And when were you taught that Muslims are the enemy?

swallowedwords

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

And when were you taught that Muslims are the enemy?

No. I was brought up to treat all people as equals. I don't think all Muslims are the enemy. Only the ones who practice it's most radical form are. Unfortunately, there's far too many of that brand in the world. Maybe, someday the majority of moderate Muslims will fight to rid itself of this cancer, but it won't happen in my lifetime.

NMyTree

swallowedwords wrote:

Israelis don't target innocent civilians......

Actually, they do. And have ..........many, many, many times.

The real difference is..........

Muslim Extremists are crazy enough to just simpkly admit they do it.

Israel pretendes they don't do it and when one of their many attacks on innocent civilians makes big news; they either claim it was a mistake or a provoked attack. But there have been way too many incidents where it was clear Israel targeted innocent civilians, for most people with an IQ higer than the price of gas; to be suckered-in to that.

Rhinocerous Surprise

swallowedwords wrote:

No. I was brought up to treat all people as equals. I don't think all Muslims are the enemy. Only the ones who practice it's most radical form are. Unfortunately, there's far too many of that brand in the world. Maybe, someday the majority of moderate Muslims will fight to rid itself of this cancer, but it won't happen in my lifetime.

But don't you see what you're doing? You're condemning the Palestinians' plight by calling it radical Islam. When you're asked to consider the various reasons people might turn to such extremism, you say it's taught to them when they're children. You're ignoring every factor in this conflict except religious extremism, and then sitting back, saying it's not your problem. Meanwhile, your government funds and supports the Israeli government, whose hands are just as bloodsoaked as any suicide bomber.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

swallowedwords wrote:

No, their parents usually receive a financial reward when their kids blow themselves up. I remember good old Saddam Hussein used to give families of suicide bombers $25k for their troubles.

Yes, everything I've said is Zionist folklore that I overheard at Zionist Summer Camp.

Your marshmallow is burning...

I guess this is why pregnant Palestinian women are left to writhe and scream in agony at checkpoints so their babies die.. or ambulances are not allowed to get access...

That must be a rather pleasant sight...

spread the love eh?

Urban Hiker

Honestly, I'm not very well educated on this topic, but I've been trying to read up.

From what I understand the people (Israelis and Palestinians) on the whole want a two state peaceful solution. However, the extremists and the government keep preventing it from happening.

I've been fortunate enough to have some time to talk with someone who's home is in Israel. She says that, like here, people just want to live their lives.

What is happening there is tragic. What do we do about it to help them? I, personally, don't think bashing the civilians on either side is the answer.

Open

swallowedwords wrote:

I'm sure many do, and then there are those who celebrate when their child blows themselves to bits.

Thats like judging the entire population of the United States based on the actions of the KKK.

or

Judging all Israelis based on your comments.

swallowedwords

Open wrote:

Thats like judging the entire population of the United States based on the actions of the KKK.

or

Judging all Israelis based on your comments.

Very poor analogy

Open

swallowedwords wrote:

Very poor analogy

Explain why?

swallowedwords

Open wrote:

Explain why?

The reason why is because the overwhelming majority of Americans condemn the KKK today, while a substantial number of Muslims (in the millions) claim that suicide bombing is a legitimate tactic. The number of KKK members compared to the number of radical Jihadists in ridiculous.