The bible explains how God chooses not to use his omnipresence in that way. When the initial dischord took place with Satan's challange against God, He allowed Satan to try and make his point...(that humans only serve God because he gives them perfection)....according to scripture, this will soon come to an end. Then God will destroy Satan and his minions making an example of them. Peace and perfection will be restored never to be tampered with again.
The test to us humans is to see how many of us will remain faithful to God despite being imperfect and suffering.
So God--this all powerful being that is supposed to love us like a parent loves his children-- is allowing us to suffer so that we can be tested, and then he wonders why we turn against him? I'd turn against anybody who stood by and watched as I suffered!
In that description, you make God sound kinda... evil.
I'd turn against anybody who stood by and watched as I suffered!
The voice of a generation!!
Little crying toddlers don't get what they want and they cry "WHAAAA WHAAA WHAAA" and mommies have to go take care of them instead of teaching them that being a crybaby is not the way to get what you want.
This is human suffering to God.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
Humans recognized, long ago, that the Sun was a life-giving all encompassing sort of power. They knew, without it, life as they knew it would cease to exist. That truth holds true...forever. That is God. God is the sun.
That's all there is to it.
All this other shit you fucks are talking about is...
Little crying toddlers don't get what they want and they cry "WHAAAA WHAAA WHAAA" and mommies have to go take care of them instead of teaching them that being a crybaby is not the way to get what you want.
This is human suffering to God.
You are a fucking moron! I haven't put anybody on my ignore list here in AGES, but welcome to it. It's a lonely place where you are....
Enjoy!
But just to clarify... that's not suffering. I would never let my children truly suffer the way some people think God lets us suffer as some test or some atonement of something.
So now you're saying that people who get sick it is because they were wicked?
The BIBLE says that only God can be perfect! Humans will never achieve perfection! We can strive for it, but it is unattainable for us! Perfection is NOT a gift!
Maybe you should study the Bible a little harder, dude.
actually the bible does say that we are perfect.... it even calls us gods. but whatever.
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
did i offend your virgin ears with my dirty talk? my apologies. ill leave you to your bible. i hear there are some great passages about the right way to rape slave women you might enjoy for their spiritual messages. they're right around the place the bible condemns homosexuality. but, of course, we know only SOME of the bible is outdated and you get to pick and choose for yourself which pieces are still relevant. pretty handy.
Ha ha! Yep! That's my favorite argument too, actually.
You do realize that you sound like you were raised in a cult don't you?
I don't think that Angelica sounds like she was raised in a cult. I think she sounds like she had a fluid understanding of Eastern belief systems, Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism... etc. etc.
She's speaking from a knowledge of her beliefs in the same way that Juberoo is... only she's making a whole lot more sense.
If anyone is willing to step ouside their own cognitive dissonance and look at what I am saying, I am saying that the idea that homosexuality is wrong is an illusion. I am also saying there is no necessity for homosexuals to repent for wrongdoing, considering the idea that it is wrong is a false idea to begin with.
The problem is that humanity has many such judgments and false ideas, and therefore, if there is inner conflict within the individual, and the felt need to repent or "forgive" one's self for one's sexuality in order to become clear and realistic, that is actually an act that restores one to the clarity of reality, wherein the false understanding of one's wrongness is erased. And IN ONE's perception, one can be peaceful and at-one with their truth.
I very clearly point to that the judgments and accusations of others--in other words the conflicts people hold regarding the ideas, beliefs or lifestyle about another--are about the person who holds the conflict and is doing the judging and is entirely independent of the person judged.
I understood. I got what you were saying all along!
So God--this all powerful being that is supposed to love us like a parent loves his children-- is allowing us to suffer so that we can be tested, and then he wonders why we turn against him? I'd turn against anybody who stood by and watched as I suffered!
In that description, you make God sound kinda... evil.
Not to mention damning to hell (I know Juberoo said she does not entirely believe in this, but many do) anyone that does not believe in him properly. Evil and insecure.
I cannot come up with a new sig till I get this egg off my face.
Not to mention damning to hell (I know Juberoo said she does not entirely believe in this, but many do) anyone that does not believe in him properly. Evil and insecure.
I don't understand why people still debate the biblical god. It's pretty obvious man made it all up.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
There are lots of us stupid conservatives in college and we're growing by leaps and bounds.
Honestly, I'm pretty smart if I do say so myself. You shouldn't associate intelligence with politics.
You're right about Intelligence and Politics.
Who is our president right now???
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I don't understand why people still debate the biblical god. It's pretty obvious man made it all up.
So well put.
People on here should just get over there homophobia and stop using fairy tales as justification.
Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
People on here should just get over there homophobia and stop using fairy tales as justification.
Seems those that are the most against homosexuality are the ones that have homosexual tendencies....they use religion as a crutch to try and fight it. Course in the end they either fail and give in...or live a miserable existence. Those that are comfortable with their sexuality understand its not something that can be "changed" and hence are okay with people boinking whomever they want.....
Seems those that are the most against homosexuality are the ones that have homosexual tendencies....they use religion as a crutch to try and fight it. Course in the end they either fail and give in...or live a miserable existence. Those that are comfortable with their sexuality understand its not something that can be "changed" and hence are okay with people boinking whomever they want.....
Exactly right. I once posted a link here to a study that confirmed this. They had male subjects come in and fill out a survey. They then took them into viewing rooms, put a device around their penis that measured change in diameter, and put on homoerotic films. The subjects who showed the most homophobia in the survey were also the subjects who experienced the most arousal while looking at homosexualy oriented porn.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Exactly right. I once posted a link here to a study that confirmed this. They had male subjects come in and fill out a survey. They then took them into viewing rooms, put a device around their penis that measured change in diameter, and put on homoerotic films. The subjects who showed the most homophobia in the survey were also the subjects who experienced the most arousal while looking at homosexualy oriented porn.
Not suprised....not one bit. Basic human nature....and we are pretty basic.
Not suprised....not one bit. Basic human nature....and we are pretty basic.
I don't know why so many guys get bent out of shape over homosexuality.
Someone once asked me if I thought a coworker (a female) was cute, and I replied " I could probably get-off to Rob Lowe easier. A simple joke shocked so many people.
I'd be more bothered if someone accused me of being a Coldplay fan, as opposed to people thinking I was gay!
I don't know why so many guys get bent out of shape over homosexuality.
Someone once asked me if I thought a coworker (a female) was cute, and I replied " I could probably get-off to Rob Lowe easier. A simple joke shocked so many people.
I'd be more bothered if someone accused me of being a Coldplay fan, as opposed to people thinking I was gay!
haha that's probably cause they thought the comment on the girl was offensive thinking you meant she looked like a guy.... it's a funny response tho.
i love coldplay! am i gay?
here's a favorite of mine, "i'm not gay, but my boyfriend is."
or, "i know i'm gay, just someone forgot to remind me."
This isn't the land of opportunity, it's the land of competition.
There is nothing inherently wrong with consentual acts between adults. There are very real things wrong with acts against non-consenting humans or animals.
You are assuming one party isn't consenting.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
ok dude... this time i'm going to question you... but for real.
"correlation between mass murder and homosexuality" explain.
"pedophelia.... none are inherently wrong" explain.
i've always thought that it was all a part of genetics... even getting turned on by a girl who wears high-heels, or some kind of weird fettish.... so i sort of stacked all sexual orientations into one and just figured, "ah, people get horny in different ways. big deal." but i'm not understanding your correlation of mass murder... or not unless, people get arousals from it like John Doe from Se7en....
Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy
That's all. But it seems like more...
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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Well, that's the first intelligent thing you've said in this whole conversation.
Just my opinion.
Peace and Love
Deni
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How convenient! Yet all the other books of wisdom were somehow NOT directed by God. Just the one you like!
Interesting.
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So God--this all powerful being that is supposed to love us like a parent loves his children-- is allowing us to suffer so that we can be tested, and then he wonders why we turn against him? I'd turn against anybody who stood by and watched as I suffered!
In that description, you make God sound kinda... evil.
Peace and Love
Deni
The voice of a generation!!
Little crying toddlers don't get what they want and they cry "WHAAAA WHAAA WHAAA" and mommies have to go take care of them instead of teaching them that being a crybaby is not the way to get what you want.
This is human suffering to God.
-Enoch Powell
At least someone gets it! *hugs to gue*
Peace and Love
Deni
not me!
You are a fucking moron! I haven't put anybody on my ignore list here in AGES, but welcome to it. It's a lonely place where you are....
Enjoy!
But just to clarify... that's not suffering. I would never let my children truly suffer the way some people think God lets us suffer as some test or some atonement of something.
Peace and Love
Deni
Ha ha!
*hugs for soulsinging*
Peace and Love
Deni
I don't think that Angelica sounds like she was raised in a cult. I think she sounds like she had a fluid understanding of Eastern belief systems, Taoism, Buddhism, Hinduism... etc. etc.
She's speaking from a knowledge of her beliefs in the same way that Juberoo is... only she's making a whole lot more sense.
That's how I'm reading it anyway.
Peace and Love
Deni
I understood. I got what you were saying all along!
I'm special that way!
Peace and Love
Deni
Not to mention damning to hell (I know Juberoo said she does not entirely believe in this, but many do) anyone that does not believe in him properly. Evil and insecure.
Yes okay.
Peace and Love
Deni
Agreed!
Peace and Love
Deni
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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You're right about Intelligence and Politics.
Who is our president right now???
6/7/2003 (***1/2)
7/9/2006 (****1/2)
7/13/2006 (**** )
4/10/2008 EV Solo (****1/2)
6/25/2008 MSG II (*****)
10/1/2009 LA II (****)
10/6/2009 LA III (***** Cornell!!!)
So well put.
People on here should just get over there homophobia and stop using fairy tales as justification.
The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
Seems those that are the most against homosexuality are the ones that have homosexual tendencies....they use religion as a crutch to try and fight it. Course in the end they either fail and give in...or live a miserable existence. Those that are comfortable with their sexuality understand its not something that can be "changed" and hence are okay with people boinking whomever they want.....
Exactly right. I once posted a link here to a study that confirmed this. They had male subjects come in and fill out a survey. They then took them into viewing rooms, put a device around their penis that measured change in diameter, and put on homoerotic films. The subjects who showed the most homophobia in the survey were also the subjects who experienced the most arousal while looking at homosexualy oriented porn.
Not suprised....not one bit. Basic human nature....and we are pretty basic.
I don't know why so many guys get bent out of shape over homosexuality.
Someone once asked me if I thought a coworker (a female) was cute, and I replied " I could probably get-off to Rob Lowe easier. A simple joke shocked so many people.
I'd be more bothered if someone accused me of being a Coldplay fan, as opposed to people thinking I was gay!
i love coldplay! am i gay?
here's a favorite of mine, "i'm not gay, but my boyfriend is."
or, "i know i'm gay, just someone forgot to remind me."
I mentioned Coldplay cuz I detest them....wasn't a comment on their fanbase!
You are not gay (but if you are its cool!)...you just have questionable taste in music!
"you know how i know you're gay? cause you listen to coldplay." :cool:
never saw the whole movie...I am glad Judd Apatow's posse is getting so much notoriety!
You are assuming one party isn't consenting.
Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy
That's all. But it seems like more...