Media Ignores Higher Black on White Crime Rate for PC Crap

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  • RainDog wrote:
    Are you seriously suggesting that no one glorifies rednecks? Or that no one criticizes inner city culture?

    Yeah, blue collar comedy tour, country music etc? I'd take the NWA over that shit any day of the week.
  • RainDog wrote:
    Are you seriously suggesting that no one glorifies rednecks? Or that no one criticizes inner city culture?

    The WASHINGTON POST is the issue here. The media does NOT glorify rednecks and they NEVER criticize inner city culture even if black on white crime is HIGHER than black on black. They choose to point out that black on black crime is higher, but do not point out black on white.

    Why is black on black crime so important to the media? If black on white crime is irrelevant, then black on black should be irrelevant too. I don't see you pointing to the Washington post calling them racists for pointing out the racial aspect of black on black crime.
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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    inmytree wrote:
    um...

    yeah...

    a...

    :eek:

    a....

    :confused:

    What's wrong with what he said? It's true.

    Even educated blacks agree with that.
  • NMyTree wrote:
    It's all over the news here in Charlotte. Seems like every night there's some black on (anyone) crime. But there's no shortage of white, hispanic crime on (anyone), too.

    Yeah, there are probably all of 12 Black people in Portland, probably why I haven't heard much.
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    question: why do we have to attach race to crime...?

    what I mean is, isn't a crime and crime, outside of the need of a description for the police, why does color/race of the perpetrator matter...?
  • inmytree wrote:
    question: why do we have to attach race to crime...?

    what I mean is, isn't a crime and crime, outside of the need of a description for the police, why does color/race of the perpetrator matter...?

    Yes, why DOES the media always point out that black on black crime is so high but they don't point out black on white crime??? Why is that?

    They certainly acknowledge the presence of race as a factor in black on black crime.
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  • The media does NOT glorify rednecks and they NEVER criticize inner city culture even if black on white crime is HIGHER than black on black.

    I dunno, again the blue collar comedy people get a ton of press. Certainly recent comments by Bill Cosby criticizing black culture have gotten a fair amount of press, as did that recent effort to ban the word n*gger, an effort that I perceived to be inspired by blacks who didn't like hearing it in rap music. I've heard both Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson criticize gangsta rap, they both get a ton of press.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    inmytree wrote:
    question: why do we have to attach race to crime...?

    what I mean is, isn't a crime and crime, outside of the need of a description for the police, why does color/race of the perpetrator matter...?

    That's the point.


    But if you're going to report such statistics, why would anyone omit the Black on White crime statistics?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    NMyTree wrote:
    What's wrong with what he said? It's true.

    Even educated blacks agree with that.

    he made perfect sense, that every black in the ghetto glorifies gang violence and that the all speak Ebonics...she was spot on calling it a "redneck culture for blacks", since we all know that blacks and rednecks can't be one in the same....

    I have to admit that I'm behind on the whole "redneck culture" thing...I wonder what that truly entails...
  • I dunno, again the blue collar comedy people get a ton of press. Certainly recent comments by Bill Cosby criticizing black culture have gotten a fair amount of press, as did that recent effort to ban the word n*gger, an effort that I perceived to be inspired by blacks who didn't like hearing it in rap music. I've heard both Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson criticize gangsta rap, they both get a ton of press.

    Oh ok now I know who I'm dealing with. You think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are strong leaders for the black community. That's funny.
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  • inmytree
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    Yes, why DOES the media always point out that black on black crime is so high but they don't point out black on white crime??? Why is that?

    They certainly acknowledge the presence of race as a factor in black on black crime.

    that's what I'm asking...why does it matter...? why do we, which here means we, care some much about the color or race of someone who committed a crime...?
  • Yes, why DOES the media always point out that black on black crime is so high but they don't point out black on white crime??? Why is that?


    Here are some stats to chew on...

    All are % of homicides based on race of victims and offenders:
    White on White: 44.6%
    Black on White: 8.8%
    White on Black:3.2 %
    Black on Black: 42.2%

    Source: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/ovracetab.htm


    So 8.8% of all homicides are black on white... alert the media... how dare they minimize it compared to the 42.2% of black on black homicides...
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  • JOEJOEJOE
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    surferdude wrote:
    The messenger should not matter, only the validity of the message. When facts are presented it's pointless to argue the validity of the messenger, sorry but that's a little baby's game. What you can argue is if the facts being presented are releveant to the discussion. In this case you argue that the skin color facts just show correlation and not causation, and that causation is primarily due to socie-economic factors. I think you'd be a lot farther ahead sticking to this than attackig the messenger.

    I agree the facts should speak for themselves, but if the messenger is a racist website, much of the credibility goes out the door.

    Corpwhore may be good at presenting "just the facts", but they always seem to have racist overtones.

    Why does he not ever present any facts about racism towards black people in the 1950s?

    Presenting negative facts about various groups is just a back-door way of bashing those groups, which is what CW loves to do. How does someone in their 20s get so wrapped up in hatred?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    NMyTree wrote:
    That's the point.


    But if you're going to report such statistics, why would anyone omit the Black on White crime statistics?

    so, what's the purpose of the statistics...? crime is crime, right...?
  • NMyTree
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    RainDog wrote:
    Why are you defending white supremacists?


    LOL!

    Sheesh.....you are funny.

    And still you don't get it.....LOL!
  • Oh ok now I know who I'm dealing with. You think Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are strong leaders for the black community. That's funny.

    Show me anywhere in my post that I said that they were strong black leaders. I said that they criticized gangsta rap, and were covered by the media. Honestly I think they're both well intentioned but are pretty ineffective because they create as many supporters of their causes as they do detractors. How about you read what a person says before inferring your own biases?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    Here are some stats to chew on...

    All are % of homicides based on race of victims and offenders:
    White on White: 44.6%
    Black on White: 8.8%
    White on Black:3.2 %
    Black on Black: 42.2%

    Source: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/ovracetab.htm


    So 8.8% of all homicides are black on white... alert the media... how dare they minimize it compared to the 42.2% of black on black homicides...

    I wonder if this is the "redneck culture" I've been hearing about...
  • NMyTree
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    inmytree wrote:
    he made perfect sense, that every black in the ghetto glorifies gang violence and that the all speak Ebonics...she was spot on calling it a "redneck culture for blacks", since we all know that blacks and rednecks can't be one in the same....

    I have to admit that I'm behind on the whole "redneck culture" thing...I wonder what that truly entails...

    He never said they all are like that. His point is that Ebonics and Gang/Thug culture have been and continues to be a dominating presence, there.

    There's no denying that.
  • Here are some stats to chew on...

    All are % of homicides based on race of victims and offenders:
    White on White: 44.6%
    Black on White: 8.8%
    White on Black:3.2 %
    Black on Black: 42.2%

    Source: http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/tables/ovracetab.htm


    So 8.8% of all homicides are black on white... alert the media... how dare they minimize it compared to the 42.2% of black on black homicides...

    Simple, that doesn't account for "violent crime" but "homicides."

    lol
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