Media Ignores Higher Black on White Crime Rate for PC Crap

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edited August 2007 in A Moving Train
The execution-style murder of three African-American college students in Newark, N.J., forced to kneel and shot in the head -- allegedly by an illegal alien from Peru who was out on bail for the serial rape of a 5-year-old -- has the makings of a Willie Horton issue in 2008.

Newark, like New York, is a "sanctuary city," where cops are not to ask criminal suspects if they are in the country legally. Mitt Romney has been hammering Rudy Giuliani on the issue, trashing his tough-cop resume by painting the mayor as den mother of the Big Apple's playpen for illegal aliens.

The arrest of Jose Carranza in that Newark massacre, amid reports he had Hispanic accomplices and the murders may have been part of a gang initiation, has also elevated the issue of the black-brown war raging in U.S. big cities.

In the Aug. 10 Washington Post story that covered the Carranza arrest, the same page had two related articles. One was headlined, "Study: Almost Half of Murder Victims Black," the other, "Slaying of Popular Editor Stuns Blacks in Oakland."

The second headline reveals an ideological slant. One would assume that everyone in Oakland was stunned by the daylight execution of African-American editor Chauncey Bailey, allegedly by a teenage foot soldier at Your Black Muslim Bakery, which Bailey was investigating.

At Bailey's funeral, a mourner held up a sign reading, "Stop Black on Black Violence." That was the subject of the second Post story.

"Nearly half the people murdered in the United States are black," declared the opening paragraph, "part of a persistent pattern in which African Americans are disproportionately victimized by violent crime, according to a new Justice Department study."

Among other conclusions reported by the Post:

-- Blacks are more likely than whites or Hispanics to be victims of crime.

-- Blacks are more likely than any other group to be victims of "serious violent crime," such as rape, assault and robbery.

-- Blacks were more than twice as likely as whites to be confronted with a firearm during a crime.

"Overall, the new Justice findings jibe with previous studies," said the Post. "For example, a review of FBI data from 2004 by the Violence Policy Center, a liberal-leaning group that campaigns for stricter gun control laws, found that blacks accounted for about half of the nation's murder victims that year."

"Black victimization is a real problem, and it's often black on black," said David Harris, a law professor at the University of Toledo who studies crime statistics.

"Often"? Correction, Harris. As the Post reports and Justice concedes, in more than nine out of 10 cases, black victims are murdered by fellow blacks.

Utterly absent from the Post story and Justice Department stats is anything about white victims of crime. Not a word. Do white folks not count, though they are two-thirds of the population?

Yet, in "The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Justice in America," produced by the "right-leaning" New Century Foundation in 2005, using the same FBI and Justice surveys, startling facts emerge:

-- "Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks." Forty-five percent of the victims of violent crime by blacks are white folks, 43 percent are black, 10 percent are Hispanic.

-- Blacks are seven times as likely as people of other races to commit murder, eight times more likely to commit robbery and three times more likely to use a gun in a crime.

-- "Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit violent crime against a white person than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery." (If decent black folks have trouble hailing a cab, and they do, these numbers may help explain it.)

-- Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the reverse.

Even the two most famous sexual assaults by white men on black women in the last two decades -- the Tawana Brawley and Duke rape cases -- turned out to be hoaxes.


What do these statistics tell us? A message the Post will not report. The real repository of racism in America -- manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder -- is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community. In almost all interracial attacks, whites are the victims, not the victimizers.

Why does the Post not report such statistics? My guess: Because the stats would shatter the Post's cultivated image of America as a land where white racism is the great lurking malevolent monster. Stories that conform to the image get play. Stories that contradict it are buried.

But, if the Bush Justice Department is doing in-depth studies on black victims of crime and who is responsible, why not one on the victimization of Americans of all colors and who is responsible?

Or is that information we ought not know, and news not fit to print?


Why are these facts not being reported? Political correctness. You will never cease to hear about Black on Black crime and how awful it is. Yet, the Black on White crime rate is higher than Black on Black crime.

The color of crime is statistically dark-skinned. Perhaps the media should report that instead of sweeping it under the rug.
All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
-Enoch Powell
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  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    The execution-style murder of three African-American college students in Newark, N.J., forced to kneel and shot in the head -- allegedly by an illegal alien from Peru who was out on bail for the serial rape of a 5-year-old -- has the makings of a Willie Horton issue in 2008.

    Newark, like New York, is a "sanctuary city," where cops are not to ask criminal suspects if they are in the country legally. Mitt Romney has been hammering Rudy Giuliani on the issue, trashing his tough-cop resume by painting the mayor as den mother of the Big Apple's playpen for illegal aliens.

    The arrest of Jose Carranza in that Newark massacre, amid reports he had Hispanic accomplices and the murders may have been part of a gang initiation, has also elevated the issue of the black-brown war raging in U.S. big cities.

    In the Aug. 10 Washington Post story that covered the Carranza arrest, the same page had two related articles. One was headlined, "Study: Almost Half of Murder Victims Black," the other, "Slaying of Popular Editor Stuns Blacks in Oakland."

    The second headline reveals an ideological slant. One would assume that everyone in Oakland was stunned by the daylight execution of African-American editor Chauncey Bailey, allegedly by a teenage foot soldier at Your Black Muslim Bakery, which Bailey was investigating.

    At Bailey's funeral, a mourner held up a sign reading, "Stop Black on Black Violence." That was the subject of the second Post story.

    "Nearly half the people murdered in the United States are black," declared the opening paragraph, "part of a persistent pattern in which African Americans are disproportionately victimized by violent crime, according to a new Justice Department study."

    Among other conclusions reported by the Post:

    -- Blacks are more likely than whites or Hispanics to be victims of crime.

    -- Blacks are more likely than any other group to be victims of "serious violent crime," such as rape, assault and robbery.

    -- Blacks were more than twice as likely as whites to be confronted with a firearm during a crime.

    "Overall, the new Justice findings jibe with previous studies," said the Post. "For example, a review of FBI data from 2004 by the Violence Policy Center, a liberal-leaning group that campaigns for stricter gun control laws, found that blacks accounted for about half of the nation's murder victims that year."

    "Black victimization is a real problem, and it's often black on black," said David Harris, a law professor at the University of Toledo who studies crime statistics.

    "Often"? Correction, Harris. As the Post reports and Justice concedes, in more than nine out of 10 cases, black victims are murdered by fellow blacks.

    Utterly absent from the Post story and Justice Department stats is anything about white victims of crime. Not a word. Do white folks not count, though they are two-thirds of the population?

    Yet, in "The Color of Crime: Race, Crime and Justice in America," produced by the "right-leaning" New Century Foundation in 2005, using the same FBI and Justice surveys, startling facts emerge:

    -- "Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks." Forty-five percent of the victims of violent crime by blacks are white folks, 43 percent are black, 10 percent are Hispanic.

    -- Blacks are seven times as likely as people of other races to commit murder, eight times more likely to commit robbery and three times more likely to use a gun in a crime.

    -- "Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit violent crime against a white person than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery." (If decent black folks have trouble hailing a cab, and they do, these numbers may help explain it.)

    -- Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the reverse.

    Even the two most famous sexual assaults by white men on black women in the last two decades -- the Tawana Brawley and Duke rape cases -- turned out to be hoaxes.


    What do these statistics tell us? A message the Post will not report. The real repository of racism in America -- manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder -- is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community. In almost all interracial attacks, whites are the victims, not the victimizers.

    Why does the Post not report such statistics? My guess: Because the stats would shatter the Post's cultivated image of America as a land where white racism is the great lurking malevolent monster. Stories that conform to the image get play. Stories that contradict it are buried.

    But, if the Bush Justice Department is doing in-depth studies on black victims of crime and who is responsible, why not one on the victimization of Americans of all colors and who is responsible?

    Or is that information we ought not know, and news not fit to print?


    Why are these facts not being reported? Political correctness. You will never cease to hear about Black on Black crime and how awful it is. Yet, the Black on White crime rate is higher than Black on Black crime.

    The color of crime is statistically dark-skinned. Perhaps the media should report that instead of sweeping it under the rug.

    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    cornnifer wrote:
    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.

    http://www.adl.org/learn/Ext_US/amren.asp?xpicked=5&item=amren
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,196
    cornnifer wrote:
    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.

    Brilliant! CorporateWhore yewlooking goood.

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  • Wow, I had no idea how bad blacks were. We should take away their right to vote and make them slaves again. Thats what you'd advocate, right?
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    In case anyone questions me, here is more from CW's good buddies at The New Century Foundation. "American Renaissance" is apparently their main publication. Niiiiiiice.
    Fucking sheesh.



    http://www.amren.com/
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • Man, that website just makes me so sad. Theres enough shit in the world as it is, why be a racist fuck? I think a lot of white racism these days comes from guilt and insecurity. People are concerned about minorities and certain whites think "why aren't they concerned about me? wahhhhhh" like fucking children. I have a feeling most people who read these sites had/have 1. Small Penises, 2. Bad mothers or 3. Not seen a womans vagina since birth
  • sweetpotatosweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    cornnifer wrote:
    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.

    :D

    i love it. well said.
    "Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States, Barack Obama."

    "Obama's main opponent in this election on November 4th (was) not John McCain, it (was) ignorance."~Michael Moore

    "i'm feeling kinda righteous right now. with my badass motherfuckin' ukulele!"
    ~ed, 8/7
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    cornnifer wrote:
    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.
    HAHHAHAAHAHAHA..... I wonder if he knows that.

    How's that line go? If it quacks like a duck......
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Sadly, regardless of who produced it or what website they have; the statistics are accurate. They were taken from the very same same FBI and Justice surveys.

    Kill the messenger all you want (and I certainly have no love for any white supremacist organization, black supremacist organization or any racist organization, period. Regardless of what race they favor); but the facts are what they are.
  • cornnifer wrote:
    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.

    That's actually a Pat Buchanan article.

    The New Century Foundation merely quotes statistical data from the FBI. Whether their motives are racist or not, it doesn't matter. The facts are true. Why do you immediately revert to "racist" when these statistics are stated? Why do you have absolutely nothing to oppose their essential truth?

    Maybe it's because you're an ignuramous.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    cornnifer wrote:
    LOFL!
    The New Century Foundation is a fucking white supremacist organization, you moron! Don't bring that weak shit here. Keep it in your fucking Klan rallies. Your rhetoric and your sources completely expose you.

    Honestly, I think you exposed yourself, more than anything else.
  • NMyTree wrote:
    Sadly, regardless of who produced it or what website they have; the statistics are accurate. They were taken from the very same same FBI and Justice surveys.

    Kill the messenger all you want (and I certainly have no love for any white supremacist organization, black supremacist organization or any racist organization, period. Regardless of what race they favor); but the facts are what they are.

    Thank you for supporting the facts.

    I don't support most of what Jared Taylor and the New Century Foundation says. I do support facts.

    Calling someone a racist does not change the fact that blacks have a higher crime rate against whites than against other blacks.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • MLC2006MLC2006 Posts: 861
    I've never heard of this organization, but if they're a racist organization, ok, fine. but the bold part of the original post seems to quote statistics from an FBI survey. so my question would be, do any of you have any statistics to refute what was said?? because if you don't, if the statistics quoted are fact, then fact is fact whether or comes from a racist organization or from Mother Teresa.

    edit: seems as though others were expressing the same sentiment as I was typing.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    That's actually a Pat Buchanan article.

    The New Century Foundation merely quotes statistical data from the FBI. Whether their motives are racist or not, it doesn't matter. The facts are true. Why do you immediately revert to "racist" when these statistics are stated? Why do you have absolutely nothing to oppose their essential truth?

    Maybe it's because you're an ignuramous.
    I was thinking that maybe it was because you posted information from a white supremacist organization.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    NMyTree wrote:
    Honestly, I think you exposed yourself, more than anything else.

    Really, how so?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Thank you for supporting the facts.

    I don't support most of what Jared Taylor and the New Century Foundation says. I do support facts.

    Calling someone a racist does not change the fact that blacks have a higher crime rate against whites than against other blacks.
    Being a racist doesn't change facts either. Still doesn't mean we can't point and laugh.
  • RainDog wrote:
    Being a racist doesn't change facts either. Still doesn't mean we can't point and laugh.

    Still don't have anything to say about the statistics? Nope. You don't. Call me a racist some more and maybe you'll be able to prove me wrong. lol
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Thank you for supporting the facts.

    I don't support most of what Jared Taylor and the New Century Foundation says. I do support facts.

    Calling someone a racist does not change the fact that blacks have a higher crime rate against whites than against other blacks.

    Apparently, facts are not important when it comes to applying them to the black community. Just the mere mention of a statistical fact, will earn one an outright verbal attack and accusations of "racism".

    Which of course is an act of racism, to begin with.

    When you defend one race at all costs, ignoring, dismissing and discounting all facts; you are a racist. Regardless of what race you may be.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    ok, let's say the stats are 100% correct...

    what's the point...?
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    Still don't have anything to say about the statistics? Nope. You don't. Call me a racist some more and maybe you'll be able to prove me wrong. lol
    How about this? Violent crime has more to do with poverty than with race. However, when you focus on the race aspect of it - and back it up with information from a racist organization - people draw conclusions. Logical ones at that.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    cornnifer wrote:
    Really, how so?

    The statistics came from the very same FBI and Justice surveys.


    The statistics weren't created, conjured-up or made up by the New Century Foundation. You know that.

    A fairly simple concept, if you ask me.
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Unfortunetly the facts are correct (even though they where not presented the facts about hispanic crime are not that much better which is extremely troubling to me). I don't believe that the problem with the article or the publication is the facts that they presented but in how they use these facts to push a distastefull agenda.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • inmytree wrote:
    ok, let's say the stats are 100% correct...

    what's the point...?

    The point is that the media refuses to tell you this information. They would rather tell you that black on black crime is high. This causes the public to have misperceived priorities. Rather than addressing the significant problems with the black community's crime rate, the media is diverting public attention from an issue that is just as important as black on black crime, but it is not reported.

    I fear that if I had pointed out that black on black crime is higher than black on white, you would not have said "what's the point...?" You would have wanted to offer solutions to that problem.

    White people matter too.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824

    White people matter too.
    Yep. And we're doing quite well, all things considered. I certainly don't need the New Century Foundation sticking up for me. The question is, why do you?
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    How about this? Violent crime has more to do with poverty than with race. However, when you focus on the race aspect of it - and back it up with information from a racist organization - people draw conclusions. Logical ones at that.

    The statistical information came from the FBI and various Jusitces. Not from the New Century Foundation. The New Century Foundation simply did a produced a piece on it. No different from FOX, CNN and MSNBC broadcasting the same news story.

    The conclusion I can draw here, is different than the conclusion you sling at CW. Although, similar in some ways.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    mammasan wrote:
    Unfortunetly the facts are correct (even though they where not presented the facts about hispanic crime are not that much better which is extremely troubling to me). I don't believe that the problem with the article or the publication is the facts that they presented but in how they use these facts to push a distastefull agenda.

    Is it not equally distasteful to push an agenda that paints all blacks as victims of the " evil white devil " ?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    The point is that the media refuses to tell you this information. They would rather tell you that black on black crime is high. This causes the public to have misperceived priorities. Rather than addressing the significant problems with the black community's crime rate, the media is diverting public attention from an issue that is just as important as black on black crime, but it is not reported.

    I fear that if I had pointed out that black on black crime is higher than black on white, you would not have said "what's the point...?" You would have wanted to offer solutions to that problem.

    White people matter too.

    no need to get pissy, little one...I just asked a question...

    I have another...let's say the media reports this...what then...? what's your solution other than having the media report this information...?
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    Yep. And we're doing quite well, all things considered. I certainly don't need the New Century Foundation sticking up for me. The question is, why do you?

    Haha! A poor attempt at diversion.
  • even flow?even flow? Posts: 8,066
    inmytree wrote:
    ok, let's say the stats are 100% correct...

    what's the point...?


    Shoot, rape or gang jump a black before they get you. If you are white.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    NMyTree wrote:
    Is not equally distasteful to push an agenda that paints all blacks as victims of the " evil white devil " ?

    Of course it is.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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