Media Ignores Higher Black on White Crime Rate for PC Crap

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  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    cornnifer wrote:
    Really, how so?

    The statistics came from the very same FBI and Justice surveys.


    The statistics weren't created, conjured-up or made up by the New Century Foundation. You know that.

    A fairly simple concept, if you ask me.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Unfortunetly the facts are correct (even though they where not presented the facts about hispanic crime are not that much better which is extremely troubling to me). I don't believe that the problem with the article or the publication is the facts that they presented but in how they use these facts to push a distastefull agenda.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    inmytree wrote:
    ok, let's say the stats are 100% correct...

    what's the point...?

    The point is that the media refuses to tell you this information. They would rather tell you that black on black crime is high. This causes the public to have misperceived priorities. Rather than addressing the significant problems with the black community's crime rate, the media is diverting public attention from an issue that is just as important as black on black crime, but it is not reported.

    I fear that if I had pointed out that black on black crime is higher than black on white, you would not have said "what's the point...?" You would have wanted to offer solutions to that problem.

    White people matter too.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    CorporateWhore wrote:

    White people matter too.
    Yep. And we're doing quite well, all things considered. I certainly don't need the New Century Foundation sticking up for me. The question is, why do you?
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    How about this? Violent crime has more to do with poverty than with race. However, when you focus on the race aspect of it - and back it up with information from a racist organization - people draw conclusions. Logical ones at that.

    The statistical information came from the FBI and various Jusitces. Not from the New Century Foundation. The New Century Foundation simply did a produced a piece on it. No different from FOX, CNN and MSNBC broadcasting the same news story.

    The conclusion I can draw here, is different than the conclusion you sling at CW. Although, similar in some ways.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    mammasan wrote:
    Unfortunetly the facts are correct (even though they where not presented the facts about hispanic crime are not that much better which is extremely troubling to me). I don't believe that the problem with the article or the publication is the facts that they presented but in how they use these facts to push a distastefull agenda.

    Is it not equally distasteful to push an agenda that paints all blacks as victims of the " evil white devil " ?
  • inmytree
    inmytree Posts: 4,741
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    The point is that the media refuses to tell you this information. They would rather tell you that black on black crime is high. This causes the public to have misperceived priorities. Rather than addressing the significant problems with the black community's crime rate, the media is diverting public attention from an issue that is just as important as black on black crime, but it is not reported.

    I fear that if I had pointed out that black on black crime is higher than black on white, you would not have said "what's the point...?" You would have wanted to offer solutions to that problem.

    White people matter too.

    no need to get pissy, little one...I just asked a question...

    I have another...let's say the media reports this...what then...? what's your solution other than having the media report this information...?
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    Yep. And we're doing quite well, all things considered. I certainly don't need the New Century Foundation sticking up for me. The question is, why do you?

    Haha! A poor attempt at diversion.
  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    inmytree wrote:
    ok, let's say the stats are 100% correct...

    what's the point...?


    Shoot, rape or gang jump a black before they get you. If you are white.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    NMyTree wrote:
    Is not equally distasteful to push an agenda that paints all blacks as victims of the " evil white devil " ?

    Of course it is.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    The statistical information came from the FBI and various Jusitces. Not from the New Century Foundation. The New Century Foundation simply did a produced a piece on it. No different from FOX, CNN and MSNBC broadcasting the same news story.

    The conclusion I can draw here, is different than the conclusion you sling at CW. Although, similar in some ways.
    As mammasan mentioned, it's not the stats - it's the use.

    As for correlation, I stand by my poverty argument. There's no denying that poverty is rampant among African Americans. If I had time, I'd get into a long discussion on why that is. But when you post an article that says "lookit what all thim black folks do" I tend to overlook any - um - altruistic motives.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    inmytree wrote:
    no need to get pissy, little one...I just asked a question...

    I have another...let's say the media reports this...what then...? what's your solution other than having the media report this information...?

    In fairness, CW was attacked by pissyness from the beginning of this thread.

    Why aren't you calling out cornnifer and RainDog for their pissy, little attacks? Why only CW?

    After all, their pissy, little attacks completely ignored the facts and attacked the messenger.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    Haha! A poor attempt at diversion.
    No, I think we've hit at something here. Why wouldn't white people matter? In fact, where's the evidence that they don't?
  • surferdude
    surferdude Posts: 2,057
    RainDog wrote:
    How about this? Violent crime has more to do with poverty than with race. However, when you focus on the race aspect of it - and back it up with information from a racist organization - people draw conclusions. Logical ones at that.
    think you are right about crime being related to poverty rate. But would you have felt the need to pipe in if the article only mentioned black on black or white on black crime?

    And what a retarded way to look at crime. Why can't it just be victim and criminal?
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    when it hits you, you feel to pain.
    So brutalize me with music.”
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  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    NMyTree wrote:
    The statistics came from the very same FBI and Justice surveys.


    The statistics weren't created, conjured-up or made up by the New Century Foundation. You know that.

    A fairly simple concept, if you ask me.

    Apparently not. You still havn't told me how i "exposed myself". Exposed myself as what exactly?
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    RainDog wrote:
    How about this? Violent crime has more to do with poverty than with race.

    Because you say so. That's your opinion though and it's certainly not factual by any means.

    Care to compare poor whites to poor blacks? Would you like to find out how similar their crime rates really are? Since you broached this topic, let's discuss it!!

    24% of the poor population of America is black. 40% of violent crimes are committed by blacks. If violent crime had more to do with poverty than race, 24% of violent crimes would be committed by blacks.

    There's a 99.9% certainty that you have no effing idea how to respond to that.
    All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal.
    -Enoch Powell
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    NMyTree wrote:
    In fairness, CW was attacked by pissyness from the beginning of this thread.

    Why aren't you calling out cornnifer and RainDog for their pissy, little attacks? Why only CW?

    After all, their pissy, little attacks completely ignored the facts and attacked the messenger.
    It's always hard to hear people when they speak through a hood - and there's no denying that often the messenger matters.
  • NMyTree
    NMyTree Posts: 2,374
    RainDog wrote:
    As mammasan mentioned, it's not the stats - it's the use.

    As for correlation, I stand by my poverty argument. There's no denying that poverty is rampant among African Americans. If I had time, I'd get into a long discussion on why that is. But when you post an article that says "lookit what all thim black folks do" I tend to overlook any - um - altruistic motives.


    Why? Certainly you have on problem with threads, posts and articles which says " look at what all them evil white devils do".

    What's the difference, other than the color of skin?

    Bottom line, the facts are what matter. Ignoring the facts in favor of " it's the use" indicates a not so honorable or honest agenda on your part.
  • RainDog
    RainDog Posts: 1,824
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Because you say so. That's your opinion though and it's certainly not factual by any means.

    Care to compare poor whites to poor blacks? Would you like to find out how similar their crime rates really are? Since you broached this topic, let's discuss it!!

    24% of the poor population of America is black. 40% of violent crimes are committed by blacks. If violent crime had more to do with poverty than race, 24% of violent crimes would be committed by blacks.

    There's a 99.9% certainty that you have no effing idea how to respond to that.
    Then here's the .1. Population density. Poor whites are usually rural and spread out. Poor blacks are usually urban and stacked on top of each other.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    I think RainDog is on to something. I would love to see if there are stats that reflect the income level of criminals across racial barriers. I, like RainDog, believe that criminal behavior is more condusive to lower income population not necessarily a certain race. Unfortunetly the lower income neighborhoods are mostly populated by minorities like blacks and hispanics.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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