''You can't be catholic and pro-abortion.''

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  • chopitdown
    chopitdown Posts: 2,222
    macgyver06 wrote:
    you can't make a descision for someone else.

    are you making that decision for me? ;)
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  • boxwine_in_hell
    boxwine_in_hell Posts: 1,263
    macgyver06 wrote:
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/04/female.speaker.ap/index.html

    why is it that the pro-life side still can't grasp that you can be pro choice and not like abortion

    Because they're fucking idiots.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    Matt8townsend wrote:
    Is Catholicism really a monotheistical religion?

    First of all you worship the holy 'trinity' - the father, the son and the Holy Ghost - but that's circumvented by a bit of Orwellian Doublethink whereby you believe they're all the same person (if that's so and he also is God incarnate I always thought it strange that Jesus was reported to have said 'My God why have you forsaken me' when he was on the Cross).

    And dosn't the reverence for the Virgin Mary rival that for Jesus/God (or should I say Jesod). Most Catholic churches contain just as many 'idols' of her as they as they do of Jesus.

    Then you've got all of the Saints (more of whom are added to the Pantheon each year as and when it suits the political interests of the vatican to do so). And many of these have their own areas of expertise and are individually prayed to for their own particular reasons.

    I know strictly speaking they're not seen as God's - but in practice isn't this polytheism in all but name?

    I guess 1,000 imaginary friends are better than one.

    1. Trinity - It's a concept of The Father, the Son, & The Holy Spirit all being one of the same entity. I understand why it sounds contradictory, but to Christians they are of the same.

    2. Catholics honor Mary, but do not worship her. God choose her to bear Christ, so they honor her. I honor my mom, but do not worship her. Catholics just take that concept to a much higher level.

    3. From my understanding (I am not Catholic but have been involved with Catholics), praying to the saints is more like askign them to pray for you in heaven. You know how the Priest will ask the Congregation to pray for this or that? Same thing. Perhaps someone more schooled can chip in.

    So in summary, Holy Trinity = God and God is worshipped. Saints are merely honored and asked to pray for us. Not polytheistic.
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Matt8townsend wrote:
    And were it to be made illegal it would be women's bodies that were being abused recklessly - in back street clinics.

    Come on - no one wants that. If abortion was illegal, I know I would make an effort (maybe through donations) to make sure the woman had somewhere to go and deliver the child. Abortion is just as bad for the woman as it is for the baby.
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  • CorporateWhore
    CorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    VictoryGin wrote:
    it sounds like you have an incredibly boring sex life. you can use candlesticks with men AND women.

    the heterosexist attitude doesn't surprise me. how vanilla.

    Hahaha, you expect a man to cram one of those things up his ass? So liberal men ARE homosexuals? :D

    Any man who would find a way to use one of those things on himself is a flamer, plain and simple. The anus is meant for exit, not entry. Like, how awful would it be to be hooking up with some chick and she pulls that shit out and says to cram it up your pooper.

    That's feminism for ya...
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Hahaha, you expect a man to cram one of those things up his ass? So liberal men ARE homosexuals? :D

    Any man who would find a way to use one of those things on himself is a flamer, plain and simple. The anus is meant for exit, not entry. Like, how awful would it be to be hooking up with some chick and she pulls that shit out and says to cram it up your pooper.

    That's feminism for ya...

    you really don't have an imagination if that's the only scenario you envision.
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  • hippiemom
    hippiemom Posts: 3,326
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Hahaha, you expect a man to cram one of those things up his ass? So liberal men ARE homosexuals? :D

    Any man who would find a way to use one of those things on himself is a flamer, plain and simple. The anus is meant for exit, not entry. Like, how awful would it be to be hooking up with some chick and she pulls that shit out and says to cram it up your pooper.

    That's feminism for ya...
    As I said ... extraordinary lack of imagination.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Hahaha, you expect a man to cram one of those things up his ass? So liberal men ARE homosexuals? :D

    Any man who would find a way to use one of those things on himself is a flamer, plain and simple. The anus is meant for exit, not entry. Like, how awful would it be to be hooking up with some chick and she pulls that shit out and says to cram it up your pooper.

    That's feminism for ya...

    I don't really know what is conversation is about, but that is hilarious.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    The Illinoisemakers wrote:
    I don't really know what is conversation is about, but that is hilarious.

    I know this thread went from abortion to sticking candles up your ass.
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,882
    mammasan wrote:
    I know this thread went from abortion to sticking candles up your ass.

    Seems logical...both are disgusting.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    cincybearcat wrote:
    Seems logical...both are disgusting.

    I mean out of all the object out there why a candle?
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    mammasan wrote:
    I mean out of all the object out there why a candle?

    it's just a euphemism. 'insert' any sex toy to replace 'candlestick'.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    VictoryGin wrote:
    it's just a euphemism. 'insert' any sex toy to replace 'candlestick'.


    I know I'm just trying to lighten up the mood. By the way I was in your neck on the woods, work wise, this morning on an interview.
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  • VictoryGin
    VictoryGin Posts: 1,207
    mammasan wrote:
    I know I'm just trying to lighten up the mood. By the way I was in your neck on the woods, work wise, this morning on an interview.

    oh sorry i'm kind of out of it. you were by my workplace? sweet. did you see me walking very quickly to work because i was late? how was the interview?

    if you get the job and want it, maybe i'll spring for artisanal. it's in the hood and i love it. i'll start saving.
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  • fanch75
    fanch75 Posts: 3,734
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    VictoryGin wrote:
    oh sorry i'm kind of out of it. you were by my workplace? sweet. did you see me walking very quickly to work because i was late? how was the interview?

    if you get the job and want it, maybe i'll spring for artisanal. it's in the hood and i love it. i'll start saving.


    Sounds good but we can split the bill.
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  • The Illinoisemakers
    The Illinoisemakers Posts: 461
    fanch75 wrote:
    Internet fights are ghey.


    What do gay horse's eat?

    Haaaaaay.
  • elle2000
    elle2000 Posts: 4
    I think thats a load of rubbish!!

    I'm not sure how i feel about aborstion but i do know that it is ever womans choice whether they want it or not and that it should be there if they need it! I would never myself but thats my choice and i think that if i did happen to get pregant at my age (25) then its time for me to grow up and deal with the decisions i have made! But you know it might be different for other people!

    And to get to my point its everyone's choice no matter what religion you our!
  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    fanch75 wrote:
    1. Trinity - It's a concept of The Father, the Son, & The Holy Spirit all being one of the same entity. I understand why it sounds contradictory, but to Christians they are of the same.

    2. Catholics honor Mary, but do not worship her. God choose her to bear Christ, so they honor her. I honor my mom, but do not worship her. Catholics just take that concept to a much higher level.

    3. From my understanding (I am not Catholic but have been involved with Catholics), praying to the saints is more like askign them to pray for you in heaven. You know how the Priest will ask the Congregation to pray for this or that? Same thing. Perhaps someone more schooled can chip in.

    So in summary, Holy Trinity = God and God is worshipped. Saints are merely honored and asked to pray for us. Not polytheistic.

    this is a pretty good summary. it's a weird doctrine and not easy to put in layman's terms.
  • humanlight
    humanlight Posts: 271
    soulsinging wrote:
    this is a pretty good summary. it's a weird doctrine and not easy to put in layman's terms.


    I think it is pretty correct too. I am catholic, and I don't think I could have said it any better myself. I am not sure how other denomations get us soooooo screwed up? Uhmmmm?
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