At least Prop 8 passed..

scw156

digster wrote:

I don't get your point. You're saying Prop 8 may be wrong, but the opposing side shouldn't be angered/frustrated/attempt to change that. If no one gets frustrated about it, then the wrong law stays on the books indefinitely.

all i keep hearing is more butthurt around here

YOU LOST. Go to your congressman, make signs and stand on the street...

DONT smash shit, go after the cops, create a public nuisance.

FiveB247x

Would this honestly be your response if your rights were taken away and you were openly discriminated against in this manner? The answer is obviously no.

scw156 wrote:

all i keep hearing is more butthurt around here

YOU LOST. Go to your congressman, make signs and stand on the street...

DONT smash shit, go after the cops, create a public nuisance.

scw156

FiveB247x wrote:

Would this honestly be your response if your rights were taken away and you were openly discriminated against in this manner? The answer is obviously no.

thank you for speaking for me.

i'm going to go break some shit and baaaawwwwww until i get my own way

mammasan

scw156 wrote:

all i keep hearing is more butthurt around here

Is "butthurt" supposed to be a funny pun about homosexuals because if it is, it is falling far short of the mark.

chiquimonkey

scw156 wrote:

What I don't understand is why people in CA are holding huge protests that are getting out of hand (arrests etc)

Prop 8 passed because the PEOPLE voted it that way, if you wanted NO on prop 8 you should have gotten more people to vote for your side.

I can see people being upset if the State just passed it, but the people have spoken, majority rule, sorry stop complaining about it.

stop complaining about it? people are right to be upset. if some law got passed discriminating against me as a hispanic, or as a woman, you better fucking believe i'd be out in the streets throwing a huge fit! wouldn't be destroying property, but as an american citizen, one has the right to speak out.

of course the religious right would LOVE to have people just sit down and shut up. only speak up if you believe in the bible or see things their way. bunch of damned socialists.

i say keep the civil disobedience going. the more noise the better.

Mrs.Vedder78

chiquimonkey wrote:

stop complaining about it? people are right to be upset. if some law got passed discriminating against me as a hispanic, or as a woman, you better fucking believe i'd be out in the streets throwing a huge fit! wouldn't be destroying property, but as an american citizen, one has the right to speak out.

of course the religious right would LOVE to have people just sit down and shut up. only speak up if you believe in the bible or see things their way. bunch of damned socialists.

i say keep the civil disobedience going. the more noise the better.

You tell them GRL!!!! :D

xo

mammasan

chiquimonkey wrote:

stop complaining about it? people are right to be upset. if some law got passed discriminating against me as a hispanic, or as a woman, you better fucking believe i'd be out in the streets throwing a huge fit! wouldn't be destroying property, but as an american citizen, one has the right to speak out.

of course the religious right would LOVE to have people just sit down and shut up. only speak up if you believe in the bible or see things their way. bunch of damned socialists.

i say keep the civil disobedience going. the more noise the better.

AMEN.

scw156

chiquimonkey wrote:

stop complaining about it? people are right to be upset. if some law got passed discriminating against me as a hispanic, or as a woman, you better fucking believe i'd be out in the streets throwing a huge fit! wouldn't be destroying property, but as an american citizen, one has the right to speak out.

of course the religious right would LOVE to have people just sit down and shut up. only speak up if you believe in the bible or see things their way. bunch of damned socialists.

i say keep the civil disobedience going. the more noise the better.

'wouldn't be destroying property' exactly what I'm saying...


protesting, speaking out is our right... destroying shit because we didnt get our own way is not... THATS what i'm saying. All it does is make your side look even more foolish and stupid.

everyone in this country knows how the system is set up, so either work within it or vote for people who will change it .. but i mean, you could always do something more constructive... like screaming, smashing public property and getting arrested... yeeeehhhhh

chiquimonkey

scw156 wrote:

'wouldn't be destroying property' exactly what I'm saying...


protesting, speaking out is our right... destroying shit because we didnt get our own way is not... THATS what i'm saying. All it does is make your side look even more foolish and stupid.

everyone in this country knows how the system is set up, so either work within it or vote for people who will change it .. but i mean, you could always do something more constructive... like screaming, smashing public property and getting arrested... yeeeehhhhh

you said "stop complaining about it". so did you mean just acting out in an illegal manner, or protesting in general?

people can work within the system, but the system also allows for civil disobedience. it worked in the 60s with the civil rights movement...no reason it shouldn't be employed now.

jeffbr

mammasan wrote:

Is "butthurt" supposed to be a funny pun about homosexuals because if it is, it is falling far short of the mark.

Apparently it is intended to be some sort of homophobic pun. Using butthurt explains why the poster isn't worried about this particular class' civil rights.

"Majority rules" simply doesn't apply when deciding whether or not to violate the rights of a class of people.

mammasan

jeffbr wrote:

Apparently it is intended to be some sort of homophobic pun. Using butthurt explains why the poster isn't worried about this particular class' civil rights.

"Majority rules" simply doesn't apply when deciding whether or not to violate the rights of a class of people.

Someone once said that majority rule doesn't always work, especially if you have 4 wolves and one lamb and your voting to see if lamb chops will be served for dinner.

scw156

chiquimonkey wrote:

you said "stop complaining about it". so did you mean just acting out in an illegal manner, or protesting in general?

people can work within the system, but the system also allows for civil disobedience. it worked in the 60s with the civil rights movement...no reason it shouldn't be employed now.

In my opinion, YES, stop complaining about it. You lost a vote. You know what you should go work for now... getting another vote then trying to get it voted your way or trying to get the vote overturned within the system.

Again, thats my opinion, if people want to protest, fine... they can and its perfectly legal. But when destruction occurs, sorry, you're wrong and stupid and you are now just making yourself look like a moron.

I am not anti-gay or anti-equal rights, i'm anti-stupid fucking morons who think their voice should be heard just because its the loudest and they can smash the most shit

chiquimonkey

scw156 wrote:

In my opinion, YES, stop complaining about it. You lost a vote. You know what you should go work for now... getting another vote then trying to get it voted your way or trying to get the vote overturned within the system.

Again, thats my opinion, if people want to protest, fine... they can and its perfectly legal. But when destruction occurs, sorry, you're wrong and stupid and you are now just making yourself look like a moron.

I am not anti-gay or anti-equal rights, i'm anti-stupid fucking morons who think their voice should be heard just because its the loudest and they can smash the most shit

i don't agree with destruction of property. one can protest and express disdain without destroying what belongs to other people. standing in front of city hall or the state capitol and getting arrested for not moving? i got NO problem with that. this isn't a matter of a town not getting a speed bump installed....this is about basic human rights. being treated as a human being. so yeah, it's a little serious....and people are going to be up in arms about it. as they should be.

and i feel you, i'm anti-moron too....that's why i'm mad that the moron majority passed 8.

mammasan

scw156 wrote:

In my opinion, YES, stop complaining about it. You lost a vote. You know what you should go work for now... getting another vote then trying to get it voted your way or trying to get the vote overturned within the system.

Again, thats my opinion, if people want to protest, fine... they can and its perfectly legal. But when destruction occurs, sorry, you're wrong and stupid and you are now just making yourself look like a moron.

I am not anti-gay or anti-equal rights, i'm anti-stupid fucking morons who think their voice should be heard just because its the loudest and they can smash the most shit

And the legal challenges have started already. Yes destruction of property and violent behavior should not be tolerated but you can't judge a whole portion of society, or simply dismiss their cause, simply because of the actions of a few.

FiveB247x

You make it seem like this is a plausible issue. It's basic rights and welfare we're discussing. We're not arguing over something that has a grey area, this is black and white.

Did you find it offensive when blacks or women would protest before they had equal rights or freedoms that everyone is entitled too? Were they acting out and just complaining til they got their way? You're position is advocating discrimination and against everything the Bill of Rights is for.

scw156 wrote:

thank you for speaking for me.

i'm going to go break some shit and baaaawwwwww until i get my own way

digster

scw156 wrote:

all i keep hearing is more butthurt around here

YOU LOST. Go to your congressman, make signs and stand on the street...

DONT smash shit, go after the cops, create a public nuisance.

You're backtracking from what you were previously saying, was that since 'majority rule' spoke in California, that was the end of it. So you should get what you're saying straight. Do you mean people shouldn't protest, or people should riot and hurt other people? Because there's not much point to arguing the second part. But that's not what you were saying. Here, look below...

Mammasan: so if the majority of people in your state voted to prohibit interracial couples from getting married it should just be accepted because of majority rule.

You: Yes. Thats the point of voting for something.

Thats the system we have, voice your opinion, the side with more votes wins...

Sorry, just saying

decides2dream

chiquimonkey wrote:

and i feel you, i'm anti-moron too....that's why i'm mad that the moron majority passed 8.

you are just CHOCK FULL of worthy quotes today chica!
well said!





ahhhh digster...never question inconsistencies.
it just ruins the fun...

eyedclaar

Homosexuals, much like fossilized evidence of dinosaurs, were placed on earth by god to test our faith. Don’t let these liberal devils in sheep’s clothing get to you. Keep the hate alive; it’s what baby Jeebus wants…

scw156

digster wrote:

You're backtracking from what you were previously saying, was that since 'majority rule' spoke in California, that was the end of it. So you should get what you're saying straight. Do you mean people shouldn't protest, or people should riot and hurt other people? Because there's not much point to arguing the second part. But that's not what you were saying. Here, look below...

Mammasan: so if the majority of people in your state voted to prohibit interracial couples from getting married it should just be accepted because of majority rule.

You: Yes. Thats the point of voting for something.

Thats the system we have, voice your opinion, the side with more votes wins...

Sorry, just saying

i suggest you read further into the thread... acting like children isnt part of the system. People, in this case the gays, gay right supporters etc. are acting like children and being crybabies. DO IT THE CORRECT WAY


i'm done commenting about this. I said what i wanted, even explained that im not anti-gay etc. you going on about this is just more baaawwwwwing.

it seems like this (this thread) is turning into a cryfest just for the sake of doing it

FiveB247x

Please read my post at the top of this page.

scw156 wrote:

i suggest you read further into the thread... acting like children isnt part of the system. People, in this case the gays, gay right supporters etc. are acting like children and being crybabies. DO IT THE CORRECT WAY


i'm done commenting about this. I said what i wanted, even explained that im not anti-gay etc. you going on about this is just more baaawwwwwing.

it seems like this (this thread) is turning into a cryfest just for the sake of doing it