At least Prop 8 passed..

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    PJ_Saluki wrote:
    That's from the West Wing.

    actually it's from the bible ;)

    not sure which came first, this letter or the west wing but....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWqgD7lGneU
  • Kami
    Kami Posts: 100
    EQUALITY IS A RIGHT, NOT A PRIVILEGE. Read the Constitution, people.

    It disgusts me that, as a country, we are still capable of such discrimination.

    This is a simple civil rights issue. How is this different from saying that black people can't marry white people? Do we not look at THOSE times and think they're barbaric??

    Guess what! If you don't like gay marriage, NOBODY'S ASKING YOU TO GET ONE. Gay marriages do NOTHING to diminish the value of straight marriages. All they do is promote more happiness between someone and their chosen partner. OPINIONS LIKE THIS SHOULD NOT BE TURNED INTO LAWS.

    It enfuriates me that people go out of their way to promote inequality and speak out about the ways that two people choose to love each other. I am so devastated that Prop 8 passed.
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  • sweetpotato
    sweetpotato Posts: 1,278
    ReleaseMe... wrote:
    some people still have their heads on straight thank goodness

    straight up their asses, that is.

    wake the fuck up. people come in all shapes, sizes, colors and sexual orientation. which part confuses you the most?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    ReleaseMe... wrote:
    some people still have their heads straight up their asses thank goodness
    ...
    Couldn't agree with you more.
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  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    ReleaseMe... wrote:
    some people still have their heads on straight thank goodness


    May your children turn out gay and have the right to marry their spouses!!!
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    Austicman wrote:
    May your children turn out gay and have the right to marry their spouses!!!

    Great post.
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  • ReleaseMe...
    ReleaseMe... Posts: 494
    yosi wrote:
    Great post.
    i agree. better than just calling somebody a bigot, like you do in every reply you wrote to this thread. go back to suny binghamton and get a new word from your poli-sci prof hahahah
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  • PJ_Saluki
    PJ_Saluki Posts: 1,006
    This lady seems to sum it up best in the first two minutes of this video. Skip ahead to about the 4:05 mark if you want to avoid the mayor's speech and hear from a person who'd be affected by this vote.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    ReleaseMe... wrote:
    i agree. better than just calling somebody a bigot, like you do in every reply you wrote to this thread. go back to suny binghamton and get a new word from your poli-sci prof hahahah

    What can I say, I call it like it is. At least I'm not lying to myself.

    Just so you know, attacking my school is a logical fallacy; it has nothing to do with the argument but you think by calling my school bad, which it is clearly not, somehow my arguments are wrong. I believe that is an ad hominem. Just so you know, the New York Times just wrote an article about Binghamton being one of the best schools in the country for its price, and it also has one of the best poli-sci departments in the world (http://www.politicalstudies.org/pdf/psr/hix.pdf). But that's neither here nor there, because I'm right regardless of where I attend school.
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  • yosi1
    yosi1 Posts: 3,272
    ReleaseMe... wrote:
    i agree. better than just calling somebody a bigot, like you do in every reply you wrote to this thread. go back to suny binghamton and get a new word from your poli-sci prof hahahah

    Oh yea I forgot.

    Bigot.
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  • FiveB247x
    FiveB247x Posts: 2,330
    Another thing that's always funny about this topic is how all these people who are against gay marriage is how they treat or react to marriage like its some holy, sacred thing. What are the statistics about the divorce rate in our society? Like half or something like that? Yeah some big sacred thing.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Austicman wrote:
    May your children turn out gay and have the right to marry their spouses!!!

    So far it hasn't happened, but if it does I hope my kids find a loving and caring partner instead of having to fake a hetero relationship and live in misery or fear.

    Would you beat they gay out of them?
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  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    jeffbr wrote:
    So far it hasn't happened, but if it does I hope my kids find a loving and caring partner instead of having to fake a hetero relationship and live in misery or fear.

    Would you beat they gay out of them?

    Not at all. Just a dig at the thread starter.
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Austicman wrote:
    Not at all. Just a dig at the thread starter.

    LOL, my apologies then! Although I'm not entirely sure wishing someone gay as a curse is a good sign of where we are with this issue. I suppose the reason being gay is a curse is because of how they're treated by the narrow-minded (like the thread starter).
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  • Austicman
    Austicman Posts: 1,328
    jeffbr wrote:
    LOL, my apologies then! Although I'm not entirely sure wishing someone gay as a curse is a good sign of where we are with this issue. I suppose the reason being gay is a curse is because of how they're treated by the narrow-minded (like the thread starter).


    I thinking that the child would eventually find their place in the world while parents would be ones with alot of soul searching to do. Only the parents would look at it as a curse and if thats the case they deserve to suffer.
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  • in_hiding79
    in_hiding79 Posts: 4,315
    Camouflage Ninja wrote:
    That made me laugh.

    However, I'm in the huge minority here and am also glad 8 passed. I can understand your POV, but I also think that babies have rights too. I think the unborn baby has a right to be born and not be terminated and also has the right to be born to a loving mother and father.


    Then you and I can't be friends....SORRY! :D

    Tell me something, why the hell does it bother people what other people do with their bodies and who they choose to marry? :confused:
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  • catefrances
    catefrances Posts: 29,003
    in_hiding79 wrote:
    Then you and I can't be friends....SORRY! :D

    Tell me something, why the hell does it bother people what other people do with their bodies and minds? :confused:

    tis all about control pam. we all have to be the same dont you know. ;) think the same. look the same. you cant be different or have a mind of your own. its not allowable that someone be an individual. society rules. anything to the contrary is blasphemous and needs to be eradicated anyway possible.
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  • Anon
    Anon Posts: 11,175
    So millions of voters went to the polls a couple of days ago and said YES to bigotry, YES to discrimination, YES to second-class status for same-sex couples. Awesome :rolleyes:

    If marriage is a religious institution, the state should wash it's hands of it entirely. If marriage is a civil institution, then religion is not and should not be involved, and arguments against same sex unions become an irrelevance.

    It's that simple. Make your mind up.
  • Ian_L
    Ian_L Posts: 101
    JWBusher wrote:
    The people of California are obviously so stupid, they need a constitutional amendment to tell them what the definition of marriage is.

    There's something wrong with this sentence. It makes me angry.

    Here's a hint:
    The people of California are obviously so stupid...

    I voted against Prop 8, as did many others. Thanks for lumping us all together.
  • j3trowkill
    j3trowkill Posts: 103
    I voted no on Prop 8, I have a 1 year old daughter, I think I can manage explaining her what this is all about.
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