Obama's Birth Certificate thing...

DriftingByTheStorm

aNiMaL wrote:

obamacrimes.com? Are YOU serious?

lol, just because the site owers are personally liberaly leaning, their information that they researched cannot be trusted! Oh no, the sky is falling, gloom and doom. Hahahaha. Disprove anything from the link I posted and then I'll continue in the nonsense of this thread topic.

I already posted a link showing that Hawaii issues Certificates of Live Birth to people NOT BORN IN HAWAII.

Go back and read it.
That as much "disproves anything" you've posted from Snopes as is needed.
The truth is, NO ONE knows what Obama's vault copy says, except for his family, someone at Hawaii DOH, and him.

I still have NO clue WTF is true and false regarding Obama's birth,
but i do know it is really lame for him to not simply show his vault copy to the Supreme Court.
REALLY lame.
As a constitutional lawyer himself, he should understand the importance of this claim, and of disproving it.
Unless, of course, his intention is to deliberately cause a constitutions crisis.
:eek:

:cool: :(

mickeyrat

you people make me laugh and sigh.

Has anyone found an image that wasn't manipulted from someone FORIEGN born that has a certified copy of A STATE OF HAWAII birth certificate?

Like to compare side by side.


Until then SHUT THE FUCK UP already.

aNiMaL

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

I already posted a link showing that Hawaii issues Certificates of Live Birth to people NOT BORN IN HAWAII.

Go back and read it.
That as much "disproves anything" you've posted from Snopes as is needed.
The truth is, NO ONE knows what Obama's vault copy says, except for his family, someone at Hawaii DOH, and him.

I still have NO clue WTF is true and false regarding Obama's birth,
but i do know it is really lame for him to not simply show his vault copy to the Supreme Court.
REALLY lame.
As a constitutional lawyer himself, he should understand the importance of this claim, and of disproving it.
Unless, of course, his intention is to deliberately cause a constitutions crisis.
:eek:

:cool: :(

"Applies to adopted children." Come on Driftin', I thought you were smarter than this. A certified copy from the state health department is just as valid.

Anon

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

and now all you fuckers are saying,
"show me where Obama ever said anything about being different. He's just more of the same shit, and you knew it from day one."

'All of you fuckers'.
Nice. One person makes a comment and then suddenly it's 'all of you fuckers.' Well, at least you are not backward in coming forward and letting out what you really think.

You and Roland are nothing but assholes. The mods let you get away with anything and everything. All day, everyday. It's a fucking joke. It's been going on for months and months. Anyone reacts in a bad way to your constant snide attacks and they are told 'don't take things too personally' or to 'chill out'.

Bullshit. I wouldn't associate with anyone in real life who spoke to me like that and i'm fucked if i'm gonna do it here.

Assholes.

DriftingByTheStorm

aNiMaL wrote:

"Applies to adopted children." Come on Driftin', I thought you were smarter than this. A certified copy from the state health department is just as valid.

the parentheticals were added by the blogger commenting on the law.
It wasn't in quotations.

I'm simply saying that it is "POSSIBLE" that he has a birth certificate as a foregin born child.

If you read, it says that children born outside of the United States may receive a Hawaii COLB if the parents claimed Hawaii as their primary residence for the previous year.

Thus Obama COULD be born in Kenya, and still receive a Hawaii COLB.

I am NOT saying he IS born in Kenya, i'm just saying it's POSSIBLE.

And as far as you, PJ_GURL, i don't know what to say.
We've had our moments of understanding, and then we have these here.
WTF do you want from me?

The Obama Lovers Camp has been wrecklessly devoted to a guy who has changed his spiel on fundamental "liberal" principles, and show no qualms over it.

You are getting bent over one silly generalization, that in the context of the larger discussion, is meaningless.

yeah, i said "all you fuckers", because, BY AND LARGE, the majority of Obama supporters on this board outright refuse to acknowledge that their man has said one thing at one time, and then gone 180 after the primaries.

Excuse me for calling a spade a spade.
:rolleyes:

I'll still read your posts, and i'm still going to reply when i feel like it.
Asshole or not.

unifiedscene

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Interesting. Replace super dumb guy with super smart guy, say change a zillion times, everyone feels vindicated, then reappoint all the same shitty people all over again, but people agree because the smart guy is in charge now.

Aside from the Sec. of Def. who is being kept temporarily for continuity's sake, which people from the Bush admin are being reappointed?

unifiedscene

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So what's the deal with all the change rhetoric?

It's a change from the Bush admin.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

unifiedscene wrote:

Aside from the Sec. of Def. who is being kept temporarily for continuity's sake, which people from the Bush admin are being reappointed?

Baba and Booey...for starters....man those guys are terrible.

Change from Bush was not the defining criteria was it?

unifiedscene

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Baba and Booey...for starters....man those guys are terrible.

Change from Bush was not the defining criteria was it?

It was as I understood it. I'm sorry you pinned such messianic hopes on the man and that you've been disappointed.

aNiMaL

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

the parentheticals were added by the blogger commenting on the law.
It wasn't in quotations.

I'm simply saying that it is "POSSIBLE" that he has a birth certificate as a foregin born child.

If you read, it says that children born outside of the United States may receive a Hawaii COLB if the parents claimed Hawaii as their primary residence for the previous year.

Thus Obama COULD be born in Kenya, and still receive a Hawaii COLB.

I am NOT saying he IS born in Kenya, i'm just saying it's POSSIBLE.

It has been claimed and proven by and to people much smarter than you and I, and they have been satisfied with the findings, that Obama was born in Hawaii. You are clearly hell bent on damning any and every move Obama makes including continuing this stupid conspiracy that Obama was born in Africa.

Plus, many states have very similar laws with regard to birth certificates. For example, Ohio: http://www.probate.co.stark.oh.us/adoptions.html

Is the Birth Certificate Changed?

Yes. The original birth certificate will be sealed and a new birth certificate issued. The adopting parent or parents will be reflected on the birth certificate, just as though they had been the biological parents.

Adopted children born in Ohio or a foreign country, receive their new birth certificate from the Bureau of Vital Statistics.

The address of the Bureau of Vital Statistics is:

Bureau of Vital Statistics
Ohio Department of Health
35 E. Chestnut St., 6th Floor
P.O. Box 15098
Columbus, OH 43215-0098

RolandTD20Kdrummer

aNiMaL wrote:

obamacrimes.com? Are YOU serious?

lol, just because the site owers are personally liberaly leaning, their information that they researched cannot be trusted! Oh no, the sky is falling, gloom and doom. Hahahaha. Disprove anything from the link I posted and then I'll continue in the nonsense of this thread topic.

Don't forget you just quoted snopes as law. That's pretty entertaining in and of itself.

Is Snopes a dedicated politics only website...hmm nope. Left right? huh?

It's a lawsuit, plain and simple.

Makes some people see various shades of red...it's pretty funny actually.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

unifiedscene wrote:

It was as I understood it. I'm sorry you pinned such messianic hopes on the man and that you've been disappointed.

I could see through the rhetoric before the campaign even started. I never really did "put all the chips" so to speak on him in the first place, as I realize what presidents are, and ultimately can do in the long run given their conditions of operation. Money talks. Change comes from the bottom up is what I've come to realize about 10 years ago.

Which leads me to ponder if Merriam Webster will reevaluate their entry for change...hehe

RainDog

Collin wrote:

What do you mean extra scutiny? What exactly makes you think people would react differently if it were any other candidate?

These people are demanding that Obama provide more proof than any other presidential candidate or president elect has had to provide in the past. Therefore, extra scrutiny. I think people are reacting differently because they are reacting differently. Like I said, it's not racism specifically (though it is for some), but more of a generalized fear of the "other," which they consider Obama to be a part of.

I say don't bow down to these incompetent lawyers, chronic litigants, embittered former rivals, and at least one anti-Semite. Even to do something as simple as releasing the long form certificate would give legitimacy to their claims. Unless a higher court of law requires it, don't give them anything. Let them twist. They deserve to have their little political mystery movie. Let the suspense tickle their minds until they eventually lose interest and move on to something else.

Collin

RainDog wrote:

These people are demanding that Obama provide more proof than any other presidential candidate or president elect has had to provide in the past. Therefore, extra scrutiny. I think people are reacting differently because they are reacting differently. Like I said, it's not racism specifically (though it is for some), but more of a generalized fear of the "other," which they consider Obama to be a part of.

I say don't bow down to these incompetent lawyers, chronic litigants, embittered former rivals, and at least one anti-Semite. Even to do something as simple as releasing the long form certificate would give legitimacy to their claims. Unless a higher court of law requires it, don't give them anything. Let them twist. They deserve to have their little political mystery movie. Let the suspense tickle their minds until they eventually lose interest and move on to something else.

Didn't they demand the same from McCain?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

How hard is it to make a simple statement of response?

I imagine that takes years of lawyers swarming around a typewriter with sticks and rocks grunting with quizzical expressions?

But it's the principle. Question not the unquestionable almighty.

How bout a high we already have shown proof...the end. So why the Dec 1st deadline thing?

Just weird..

aNiMaL

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Don't forget you just quoted snopes as law. That's pretty entertaining in and of itself.

Is Snopes a dedicated politics only website...hmm nope. Left right? huh?

It's a lawsuit, plain and simple.

Makes some people see various shades of red...it's pretty funny actually.

I didn't quote anything as "law!" Laughs dude. Get your head out of your ass. This birth certificate conspiracy theory is as stupid as the ones who said GW caused 9/11. And that the building was really exploded with dynamite instead of from the jet airliner smashing into the side of it.

Obama is really an African Muslim, run for your lives, the sky is falling, we've all been duped. He's a terrorist and he pals around with terrorist. He is putting together a bipartisan cabinet, I told you he was an African Muslim terrorist!!! Doom and gloom!!!

What a fucking joke.

aNiMaL

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

How hard is it to make a simple statement of response?

I imagine that takes years of lawyers swarming around a typewriter with sticks and rocks grunting with quizzical expressions?

But it's the principle. Question not the unquestionable almighty.

How bout a high we already have shown proof...the end. So why the Dec 1st deadline thing?

Just weird..

Maybe because it is all extremely frivolous and that they have already been satisfied with the legal copy provided by the HI State Health Department.

Show me proof from the courts that said he had to provide his original vaulted copy of his birth certificate by 12/1.

Also, can anyone show any proof at all of his birth in Africa? And the premeditative subsequent cover up knowing the infant would one day illegally run for president of the US?

RainDog

Collin wrote:

Didn't they demand the same from McCain?

Not the same "they," but there were questions. There's no dispute that McCain actually was born outside the U.S. The question was was he born on the military base or in a hospital in Panama? The question was rendered "moot," I believe, when it was declared that since both his parents were U.S. citizens, then he is a natural born U.S. citizen. That "offspring of a U.S. citizen" thing, for some reason, isn't enough where Obama is concerned.

Collin

aNiMaL wrote:

I didn't quote anything as "law!" Laughs dude. Get your head out of your ass. This birth certificate conspiracy theory is as stupid as the ones who said GW caused 9/11. And that the building was really exploded with dynamite instead of from the jet airliner smashing into the side of it.

Obama is really an African Muslim, run for your lives, the sky is falling, we've all been duped. He's a terrorist and he pals around with terrorist. He is putting together a bipartisan cabinet, I told you he was an African Muslim terrorist!!! Doom and gloom!!!

What a fucking joke.

Is that... is that... a horse laughing?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

aNiMaL wrote:

Maybe because it is all extremely frivolous and that they have already been satisfied with the legal copy provided by the HI State Health Department.

Show me proof from the courts that said he had to provide his original vaulted copy of his birth certificate by 12/1.

Also, can anyone show any proof at all of his birth in Africa? And the premeditative subsequent cover up knowing the infant would one day illegally run for president of the US?

There is a deadline for a Dec 1st response. One would think they would at least say something either way.

It seems the ignore route is their strategy.