Obama Refuses to Answer Birth Certificate Lawsuit

RolandTD20Kdrummer

inmytree wrote:

ha ha ha...

all talk...

I knew it...

WTF!?!

good drugs?

If you don't see the difference between asking someone who is running for president of a country and some john smith on the street asking another stranger.... well... I don't know what to tell you.

My condolences on the head injury....I hope the scarring was minimal.

Strangest Tribe

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

"Well documented" seems to be the word of the day.

Maybe they should all just go look on Wikipedia, and adjourn.

Well I only mention Wiki because it's easier and more accessable for those with ADD, inability to read anything over a page or two. I could mention the thousands of magazine articles and hundreds of books that have been published over the last two years that document BO's past but that would be pointless when discussing issues with peeps that get their stories off "real credible" blogs.

FrankBauer

i dont know whats the deal with this birth certificate mess, but theres something shady going on here, not sure how anyone can deny that. when roland brought this up, i started looking around the web for more information and its a mess. and it strikes me as weird that obama just wont clear this thing up. combine the fact he wont release any of his medical records (none of the candidates have been forthright here) is weird. obama is supposed to be change, he's not supposed to be hiding his medical record ike mccain, palin, and biden are doing. if he smokes, who cares? this year of candidates, its been unprecedented - mccain has released the most of his medical record (and thats sad).

and the thing is, i dont know if half the stuff i read online about it is true. even so, no one seems to have an adequate response to all these allegations. its not just where he was born, there may also be an issue with him having dual or citizenship to three countries. i came across this one site that had 4 different scenarios going about whether or not obama has citizenship. even if he was born in hawaii, supposedly there are other issues regarding having multiple citizenships. i read somewhere that the nutjob berg had 56 million hits on his website. isnt this enough for obama to step up and produce something to quiet this mess? obama has been fast and furious with all his responses (whether it was to ayers, rev wright, biden, mccain's claims), but this one issue he leaves hanging and feels that certification of live birth on his fightthesmears website is sufficient.

this is sort of like the palin issue in which she won't release the birth certificate of her special needs kid. there are still issues surrounding her pregnancy, and she won't clear it up. andrew sullivan has been keeping tabs of this situation. for both obama and palin, a simple document would clear this mess up, not sure why they choose to ignore it....

fugawzi

There was also something "shady" about how JFK was killed. There's TONS of shit on the internet about it. 9/11 was really "shady" and theres endless info about the conspiracy theories.

The point is, there are always going to be conspiracy theorists. Regardless of all the FACTS that come out. Some of them will never let go. There was only one shooter in Dallas, the facts, the evidence out there supports it. Some people will never admit to it though. Same thing with 9/11. For as many theories out there about how it was an inside job, the facts don't match up with it. Some people will never accept it, and that's fine. It doesn't make it any less factual. It's not a coincidence that Philip Berg, the guy bringing this lawsuit in question, is also a 9/11 Truther conspiracy theorist.

Strangest Tribe

We shouldn't ever let the facts get in the way of a good conspiracy. What fun is that?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

chiefojibwa wrote:

some people will just NEVER BELIEVE, no matter what. barack could knock on their door with his birth certificate, and they still would not believe him.

....or how about say....a judge perhaps. That would do.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

Strangest Tribe wrote:

Well I only mention Wiki because it's easier and more accessable for those with ADD, inability to read anything over a page or two. I could mention the thousands of magazine articles and hundreds of books that have been published over the last two years that document BO's past but that would be pointless when discussing issues with peeps that get their stories off "real credible" blogs.

It will make it all the more interesting if there was tiny little legal technicality/glitch though wouldn't it?

The media would go nuts.

Probably bigger than OJ...

FrankBauer

fugawzi wrote:

There was also something "shady" about how JFK was killed. There's TONS of shit on the internet about it. 9/11 was really "shady" and theres endless info about the conspiracy theories.

The point is, there are always going to be conspiracy theorists. Regardless of all the FACTS that come out. Some of them will never let go. There was only one shooter in Dallas, the facts, the evidence out there supports it. Some people will never admit to it though. Same thing with 9/11. For as many theories out there about how it was an inside job, the facts don't match up with it. Some people will never accept it, and that's fine. It doesn't make it any less factual. It's not a coincidence that Philip Berg, the guy bringing this lawsuit in question, is also a 9/11 Truther conspiracy theorist.

heres actually a pretty good website that addresses alot of these issues that i just came across. discredits berg too. i havent browsed through the entire site, but its pretty comprehensive and actually gives responses to all of berg's assertions.

http://tesibria.typepad.com/whats_your_evidence/

i guess my problem. obama has always been candid. about smoking, about cocaine use. he's upfront about most things. why leave this issue in question. why produce a COLB when he just as easily couldve had the original document on his website. why hold your medical records when its common practice for presidential candidates to release them? when politicians aren't upfront, especially about something like this, its usually somethign that could be politcially damaging. we all know why mccain hasnt released his medical records, but why obama? this issue on whether obama meets these requirements to run for POTUS, there should be no questions. this thread shouldn't even exist.

when reading about these issues, i knew berg was a nutjob. i always wondered why he didn't subpoena hawaii for the birth ceritificate, instead of waiting for obama to produce one. and if he's carrying on this charade without any evidence to his claims, thats tragic and it really does the public a disservice. but its equally confusing why obama doesn't crush this guy when he could've done so easily. this guy has 56 million hits on his website. we're in the critical period, obama doesn't need these distractions in the final week.

Strangest Tribe

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

NOCODE#1

racists will believe anything to prove a point. The Hate in this country is so sad. Simple simple minds.

NOCODE#1

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The guy has a right to ask, and has a rather convincing case, but it seems that right is being tossed aside.

really? anyone can piss away more taxpayer money because they have a racist agenda? run it up the flag pole and hope more soft minds jump on board the hate wagon? this douche better fucking pay back every cent of court expenses.

DriftingByTheStorm

fugawzi wrote:

There was also something "shady" about how JFK was killed. There's TONS of shit on the internet about it.[...]

There was only one shooter in Dallas, the facts, the evidence out there supports it. Some people will never admit to it though.

What the fuck are you smoking?

I can't even address the rest of your post.

Some people will never admit it, is right.

WTF?

Once again,
what part of that public announcement did you fail to comprehend?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

NOCODE#1 wrote:

really? anyone can piss away more taxpayer money because they have a racist agenda? run it up the flag pole and hope more soft minds jump on board the hate wagon? this douche better fucking pay back every cent of court expenses.

If he has no case? Definitely.

but what if he does is my point....

inmytree

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

WTF!?!

good drugs?

If you don't see the difference between asking someone who is running for president of a country and some john smith on the street asking another stranger.... well... I don't know what to tell you.

My condolences on the head injury....I hope the scarring was minimal.

wait a minute...are you saying that you don't want to share your birth certificate because it's none of my business so you shouldn't have to...?

what an interesting argument...

and the head injury stuff...lame...:rolleyes:

Gonzo1977

Good God!!

Has it really come to this? Are we just throwing this shit on the wall and hoping that it sticks? Is this all they have left? Do Republican's think so little of the actual intellegance in this country that they'd honestly think that people would buy this crap?

You've seriously got to question the noodles in anyone's head that would actually believe that Barack Obama would actually run for President of The Untied States if he wasn't an actual US Citizen.

The man is in his 40's.

He's paid Taxes
He has a driver's licence
He has a Social Insurance Number
He has a Marriage Certificate
He's A UNITED STATES SENATOR!!!!

all of the above

REQUIRE A VALID BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!

Do you honestly believe that Obama would have made it this far with out someone discovering this Retarded deep dark secret.

Whoever this Half Wit Waterhead Racist Conspiracy Theorist that's trying to investigate this shit should seriously get his fucking head out of his ass because he's only making himself look like a complete fool.

Jesus Christ there are some stupid people out there.

pjalive21

Gonzo1977 wrote:

You've seriously got to question the noodles in anyone's head that would actually believe that Barack Obama would actually run for President of The Untied States if he wasn't an actual US Citizen.

The man is in his 40's.

He's paid Taxes
He has a driver's licence
He has a Social Insurance Number
He has a Marriage Certificate
He's A UNITED STATES SENATOR!!!!

all of the above

REQUIRE A VALID BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!

.

tho i am NOT an Obama supporter i do not believe he has a valid b.c, at first i was skeptical of it but after research he has a valid one

but to discredit your point did terrorist come over to this country getting all the things you listed above? so its not all that difficult to forge documents

but to make my point again, i do believe Obama has a valid b.c.

Wilds

Gonzo1977 wrote:

Good God!!

Has it really come to this? Are we just throwing this shit on the wall and hoping that it sticks? Is this all they have left? Do Republican's think so little of the actual intelligence in this country that they'd honestly think that people would buy this crap?

You've seriously got to question the noodles in anyone's head that would actually believe that Barack Obama would actually run for President of The Untied States if he wasn't an actual US Citizen.

The man is in his 40's.

He's paid Taxes
He has a driver's licence
He has a Social Insurance Number
He has a Marriage Certificate
He's A UNITED STATES SENATOR!!!!

all of the above

REQUIRE A VALID BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!!!

Do you honestly believe that Obama would have made it this far with out someone discovering this Retarded deep dark secret.

Whoever this Half Wit Waterhead Racist Conspiracy Theorist that's trying to investigate this shit should seriously get his fucking head out of his ass because he's only making himself look like a complete fool.

Jesus Christ there are some stupid people out there.

Well said. I'll second this.

fugawzi

DriftingByTheStorm wrote:

What the fuck are you smoking?
I can't even address the rest of your post.

Well you asked a legitimate question so I'll give you an answer. Reefer. Really good with hairs and crystals all over it. I'm not smoking it though, I'm vaping it. That's irrelevant though.

Maybe the reason you can't even address the rest of my post is because I'm right. There's always going to be conspiracy theories and theorists, and that's fine. It doesn't make the facts any less factual. Like I said before, when it comes out that Obama wasn't born in this country with 100% certainty, when it's all over all the major news outlets (I'm sure it would be that would be a pretty big story) when it's 100% confirmed, I will be here to admit I was wrong. You can PM me or start a thread with my name on it saying how wrong I was. Until then, I'll go with the facts that are out there and you can keep believing what you believe. I'm not taking it personal at all, are you?

Kann

inmytree wrote:

wait a minute...are you saying that you don't want to share your birth certificate because it's none of my business so you shouldn't have to...?

what an interesting argument...

and the head injury stuff...lame...:rolleyes:

Actually he's saying you'd have to drag him to court to see his birth certificate. Then he'd agree.

Collin

fugawzi wrote:

Well you asked a legitimate question so I'll give you an answer. Reefer. Really good with hairs and crystals all over it. I'm not smoking it though, I'm vaping it. That's irrelevant though.

Pass it over here, dude

I love pearl jam fans!